ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 crashes Windows 11 in XMP 1 or 2 mode

[emmarshall71]

Hello everyone,

I am running a Windows 11 Professional build with a 12700K CPU and 64 GB of GSKILL F4-3600C16Q-16GTZR memory on the STRIX Z690-A board. This memory ran fine on my Maximus Hero XII Z490 board on XMP settings. I am running the latest 0807 BIOS and have had the same issue on the prior two BIOS versions. If I try either XMP 1 or XMP 2 windows fails to boot and collects error messages to send to Microsoft. I have also tried this with the CPU Overclock jumper set to both on and off. Also I noticed that setting XMP II, but setting the DRAM to 3400 allows Windows to boot and run fine, but anything higher will crash windows.


Any help would be greatly appreciated. First time I am running into this issue after years of building on ASUS boards.

[bscool]

ykeyre wrote:
Still stuck on 0707. Games and Chrome browser crashing but at least it boots to desktop. The ram sticks work perfectly on Z590. Can't believe Asus has regressed to such instability on DDR4 Z690.

https://i.imgur.com/ilcQSPx.png
https://i.imgur.com/XdJYTvU.png

I dont think it is the bios. There is something else going on. CPU or MB. I saw on overclocker.net a couple people get defective cpus and mbs that wouldnt run XMP.

Many are running single and dual rank at 3600-4000+ so if you cant I would bet is an issue somewhere else besides bios.

If you havent done the basic trouble shooting like 1 dim at a time testing each slot I would start there. If you find a slot that allows xmp and 1 that doesnt then you can proceed from there as it is a hardware problem. a2 and b2 are the correct slot of 2x8 or 2x16.

It is difficult to diagnose problems without multple cpus and mb to swap parts.

[ykeyre]

bscool wrote:
I dont think it is the bios. There is something else going on. CPU or MB. I saw on overclocker.net a couple people get defective cpus and mbs that wouldnt run XMP.

Many are running single and dual rank at 3600-4000+ so if you cant I would bet is an issue somewhere else besides bios.

If you havent done the basic trouble shooting like 1 dim at a time testing each slot I would start there. If you find a slot that allows xmp and 1 that doesnt then you can proceed from there as it is a hardware problem. a2 and b2 are the correct slot of 2x8 or 2x16.

It is difficult to diagnose problems without multple cpus and mb to swap parts.

It is definitely a BIOS issue. 0707 works albeit unstable. Cannot even boot to windows on any other BIOS version. I have tried different set of RAM sticks, and even ordered a second 12900K. https://i.imgur.com/oJXJ69P.png

[bscool]

ykeyre wrote:
It is definitely a BIOS issue. 0707 works albeit unstable. Cannot even boot to windows on any other BIOS version. I have tried different set of RAM sticks, and even ordered a second 12900K. https://i.imgur.com/oJXJ69P.png

I didnt know you where trying to run 4x16. It is not on the QVL or Gskill mem compatibily list for the MB so no suprise with doesnt work with XMP.

Looking at Gskill site they show 4x16 as compatible with looser timings so you will probably have to manually loosen them until or if they ever release a bios that can run them at tigther timings. People are having issues with 4x8 so I am suprised you can even run 4x16 with tight timings at 3600.

[QuadLIght]

my board is TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4
memory - 4x8gb kit gskill 18-22-22-42
12900k
all values - default except


Ai Overclock Tuner [XMP II]
XMP [XMP DDR4-4000 18-22-22-42-1.35V]
ASUS MultiCore Enhancement [Enabled – Remove All limits]

--------------
unstable at tuf bios Version 0707
and at Version 0807 stability is possibly even worse

crash in tests aida64 stability after 1-3 minutes,
occt errors on cores after 3-5 minutes
1-2 bsod per workday

how i solved the problem:

firstly i noticed
the system works stably if you start from scratch and go into the BIOS, manually adjust the timings
you need to set manual those that the system shows in the current ones. as I understand they were obtained during training



The main thing here is
MCH Full Check [Enabled]
Training Profile [Standard Profile]

after the manual set this values and the MCH Full Check [Enabled] (disable at default),
stability at aida64 and occt no errors - 1 hour test
there are currently no bsod

maybe it will be useful for those who have ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4


my values:
DRAM CAS# Latency [18]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay [22]
DRAM RAS# PRE Time [22]
DRAM RAS# ACT Time [42]
DRAM Command Rate [Auto]
DRAM RAS# to RAS# Delay L [10]
DRAM RAS# to RAS# Delay S [4]
DRAM REF Cycle Time [700]
DRAM REF Cycle Time 2 [520]
DRAM REF Cycle Time 4 [320]
DRAM Refresh Interval [15600]
DRAM WRITE Recovery Time [Auto]
DRAM READ to PRE Time [12]
DRAM FOUR ACT WIN Time [48]
DRAM WRITE to READ Delay [Auto]
DRAM WRITE to READ Delay L [Auto]
DRAM WRITE to READ Delay S [Auto]
DRAM CAS to CAS Delay L [Auto]
DRAM CKE Minimum Pulse Width [8]
DRAM Write Latency [17]
Ctl0 dqvrefup [Auto]
Ctl0 dqvrefdn [Auto]
Ctl0 dqodtvrefup [Auto]
Ctl0 dqodtvrefdn [Auto]
Ctl1 cmdvrefup [Auto]
Ctl1 ctlvrefup [Auto]
Ctl1 clkvrefup [Auto]
Ctl1 ckecsvrefup [Auto]
Ctl2 cmdvrefdn [Auto]
Ctl2 ctlvrefdn [Auto]
Ctl2 clkvrefdn [Auto]
ODT RTT WR (CHA) [Auto]
ODT RTT PARK (CHA) [240 DRAM Clock]
ODT RTT NOM (CHA) [Auto]
ODT RTT WR (CHB) [Auto]
ODT RTT PARK (CHB) [240 DRAM Clock]
ODT RTT NOM (CHB) [Auto]
ODT_READ_DURATION [Auto]
ODT_READ_DELAY [Auto]
ODT_WRITE_DURATION [Auto]
ODT_WRITE_DELAY [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Init Value MC0 CHA [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Max Value MC0 CHA [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Offset Value Mode Sign MC0 CHA [-]
Round Trip Latency Offset Value MC0 CHA [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Init Value MC1 CHA [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Max Value MC1 CHA [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Offset Value Mode Sign MC1 CHA [-]
Round Trip Latency Offset Value MC1 CHA [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHA R0 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHA R1 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHA R2 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHA R3 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHA R4 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHA R5 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHA R6 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHA R7 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHA R0 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHA R1 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHA R2 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHA R3 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHA R4 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHA R5 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHA R6 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHA R7 [Auto]
Early Command Training [Auto]
SenseAmp Offset Training [Auto]
Early ReadMPR Timing Centering 2D [Auto]
Read MPR Training [Auto]
Receive Enable Training [Auto]
Jedec Write Leveling [Auto]
Early Write Time Centering 2D [Auto]
Early Read Time Centering 2D [Auto]
Write Timing Centering 1D [Auto]
Write Voltage Centering 1D [Auto]
Read Timing Centering 1D [Auto]
Dimm ODT Training* [Auto]
Max RTT_WR [ODT Off]
DIMM RON Training* [Auto]
Write Drive Strength/Equalization 2D* [Auto]
Write Slew Rate Training* [Auto]
Read ODT Training* [Auto]
Comp Optimization Training [Auto]
Read Equalization Training* [Auto]
Read Amplifier Training* [Auto]
Write Timing Centering 2D [Auto]
Read Timing Centering 2D [Auto]
Command Voltage Centering [Auto]
Early Command Voltage Centering [Auto]
Write Voltage Centering 2D [Auto]
Read Voltage Centering 2D [Auto]
Late Command Training [Auto]
Round Trip Latency [Auto]
Turn Around Timing Training [Auto]
CMD CTL CLK Slew Rate [Auto]
CMD/CTL DS & E 2D [Auto]
Read Voltage Centering 1D [Auto]
TxDqTCO Comp Training* [Auto]
ClkTCO Comp Training* [Auto]
TxDqsTCO Comp Training* [Auto]
VccDLL Bypass Training [Auto]
CMD/CTL Drive Strength Up/Dn 2D [Auto]
DIMM CA ODT Training [Auto]
PanicVttDnLp Training* [Auto]
Read Vref Decap Training* [Auto]
Vddq Training [Auto]
Duty Cycle Correction Training [Auto]
Rank Margin Tool Per Bit [Auto]
DIMM DFE Training [Auto]
Tx Dqs Dcc Training [Auto]
Rank Margin Tool [Auto]
Memory Test [Auto]
DIMM SPD Alias Test [Auto]
Receive Enable Centering 1D [Auto]
Retrain Margin Check [Auto]
Write Drive Strength Up/Dn independently [Auto]
Margin Check Limit [Disabled]
tRDRD_sg_Training [Auto]
tRDRD_sg_Runtime [7]
tRDRD_dg_Training [Auto]
tRDRD_dg_Runtime [4]
tRDWR_sg [12]
tRDWR_dg [12]
tWRWR_sg [7]
tWRWR_dg [4]
tWRRD_sg [38]
tWRRD_dg [28]
tRDRD_dr [12]
tRDRD_dd [14]
tRDWR_dr [16]
tRDWR_dd [18]
tWRWR_dr [12]
tWRWR_dd [12]
tWRRD_dr [10]
tWRRD_dd [10]
tWRPRE [45]
tPRPDEN [Auto]
tRDPDEN [Auto]
tWRPDEN [Auto]
tCPDED [Auto]
tREFIX9 [135]
Ref Interval [Auto]
tXPDLL [Auto]
tXP [Auto]
tPPD [Auto]
tCCD_L_tDLLK [Auto]
MRC Fast Boot [Enabled]
MCH Full Check [Enabled]
Mem Over Clock Fail Count [Auto]
Training Profile [Standard Profile]
RxDfe [Auto]
Mrc Training Loop Count [Auto]
DRAM CLK Period [Auto]
Controller 0, Channel 0 Control [Enabled]
Controller 0, Channel 1 Control [Enabled]
Controller 1, Channel 0 Control [Enabled]
Controller 1, Channel 1 Control [Enabled]
MC_Vref0 [Auto]
MC_Vref1 [Auto]
MC_Vref2 [Auto]
Dynamic Memory Boost [Disabled]
Realtime Memory Frequency [Disabled]

[davide87ita]

Shamino wrote:
i posted a new bios up in the pinned thread

still not boot also with 0812.....

[bscool]

Testing 4x16 3600c14

If someone want to test cmo file let me know and I will make one and post

[bscool]

Strix z690 A d4 bios 812

Testing 4x16 3600c14

I didnt do a long memory test as if no one is interested I am not going to spend the time. CMO should work for 4x8 also. You could bump up speed for 4x8 I would think to 3866+. Havent tested but I do have a 4x8 I could test but wont as if 4x16 can do this I know 4x8 can do more easy.

Also before bios 812(tested 003, 707, 803, 808) I would get cashes at idle/low load if using AI oc. To fix need to set static v core voltage. No isssue like that with 812.

If someone want to test cmo file let me know and I will make one and post

Edit I am using 2 pair of mismatched ram kits of 4000c14 and 3600c14 so this is not ideal and still works.

[bscool]

z690 Strix A d4 bios 812
2x16 b die 4133c15

[bass_junkie_xl]

bscool wrote:
z690 Strix A d4 bios 812
2x16 b die 4133c15

vary nice.

I just got my Asus Strix z690 ddr4 board and 12900k

I have 8gb x 4 sticks of team group extreme 4133 MHz
cl-18-18-81-38 @ 1.40v xmp

@ 4000 MHz cl 17--17-17-37 @ 1.45v manual rest auto

bios 807 .

my question is where can get bios 812 ?,

is bios 812 better then bios 807 for 8gb x4 from the Asus support page bios d/l ?

this ram is @ 4133 MHz cl 16-16-16-36 1.50v doing 37 NS with my 9900 ks @ 5.2 GHz in a cheap gigabyte z390 pro wifi stable in evrything.

4000 cl 17 boots in gear 1 and 4133 cl 18 boots in gear 1

[bscool]

For me it is the best bios by far, allows for much lower sa/vddq with dual rank b die. i didnt test the others on 4 sticks so I have no idea how they do.

812 https://www.dropbox.com/s/t1m4s5mzc6yfwjz/ROG-STRIX-Z690-A-GAMING-WIFI-D4-ASUS-0812.rar?dl=0

source https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?126369-Maximus-Z690-and-Alder-Lake-Modern-CPU%92s-require-...

I think if you can get anything over 3866 you are doing good with 4x8. Depends on subtiming and IMC also. Might be able to run 4000 to 4133 with looser timings.