X670 / X870 resource thread

[Shamino]

ill use this thread to collect some new test bioses for the boards, maybe also to explain some less understood options

to disable cores ccd go here and choose ccd xx bit map down core.
each ones stand for an enabled core
best to disable from the back, ie:
110000
instead of 0011000
after selection press downcore apply changes or discard if made mistake

ocpak/octools

FAQ:
7950x not boosting pass 5.5G -> check that CStates is not disabled
Detailed Explanation on CState Boot Limiter


Test BIOSes:

new:
X3D OC Preset for those MB with asynch BCLK Support: (for simple slight perf boost for X3D)


DOCP/EXPO Tweaked: (for simple timings tightening)


strixe-e 1515 

strixe-f 1515 

strix e a 1515 

crosshair hero 1515 

crosshair gene 1515 

crosshair extreme 1515 

creator 670 1515

creator b650 1515

strix 650E I

strix 670 itx

for crosshair and strix e-e:

explanation of segment2 Loadline:

customize a heterogenous loadline for a dual segment workload range.

example above shows loadline=L6 when current is in range of 0~40A, and Level4 when current is above 40A.

Adds for x3d

dynamic ccd priority switch with core flex, os / driver agnostic so win10 win11 ok





Algo as follows:
If condition reached and ccd0 specified, then check current mem/cache activity > threshold and hysteresis reached, if fulfilled then switch
If condition reached and ccd1 specified, then check current mem/cache activity <=threshold and hysteresis reached,, if fulfilled then switch
Default hysteresis =4

Can combine multiple algos for ccd priority so combinations are wide

works on non x3d too but of course senseless on it. detailed explanation here.

[SkyBeam]

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@Mister_Benson wrote:

What is the purpose of letting your PC go into sleep mode?

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Maybe energy savings?

Energy is neither free nor infinite. I am running Prime X670-P with 7950X and 64GB on custom watercooling. The system is taking about 100W when idling. If there are things I ned 24/7 available I put it on servers. Sure I can abuse my desktop as server but that's not what the majority of users is doing when operating consumer desktop hardware. So in standby the machine is consuming something about 5W. Assuming you are a heavy user and sitting 16 hours a day at your desktop (assuming 8 hours sleep) you still would save 95W in 8 hours a day which is (95W * 8 * 365 = 277.4kWh. Depending on your country and region this might be even cost from $50 to $150 a year. Just to keep the machine running while you are asleep.

Sure you can also easily just power down the machine. Modern machines take about 20s to boot plus the time to re-launch your applications, open documents etc. If you don't want to do this every morning then standby is a valid option to go for.

Why wasting energy if you don't have to?

[Mister_Benson]

I hear what you're saying, and I completely agree, however look at what's happening today around Intel and their 13 and 14 series, and most recently the performance issues with the AMD 9000 series which was a Microsoft Windows operating system issue, I remain convinced that these sleep mode issues on AMD are the result of Windows. I have no market share with ASUS LOL, and to tell you I come from a 10900K with a Z490 Formula which also from time to time lived its own life.

[SkyBeam]

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@Mister_Benson wrote:

I remain convinced that these sleep mode issues on AMD are the result of Windows.

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Unlikely. It's rather AGESA-related issue. I personally can reproduce reboot-hang issues with neraly any BIOS version if I play iwth the SoC voltage. Check your BIOS settings and specifically the SoC voltage. First try Auto mode. If this does not work try to switch to Offset mode and try lowering or increasing the SoC voltage offset. My system reboots reliably if I set a voltage offset of -0.05. Gowing lower (e.g. -0.1V) the system will hang on reboot. No matter if the reboot is initiated by Windows or Linux. I suggest not to be too aggressive and range from +0.2 to -0.2V max just to try if it makes a difference for you.

And yes, lower voltage might actually cause better stability to, so don't just increase voltage (positive offset mode) assuming more voltage is more stable.

Actually I really hope AMD OpenSIL is becoming a thing for desktop Ryzen as well. I am also sick of AGESA and regression bugs. So I would be very very interested in seeing OpenSIL adaptations for Ryzen and I am sure a wide range of fixes and improvements would be contributed by non-AMD-staff helping the overworked AMD team improving the code. There are many smart people out there and opening up the initialization code has a huge potential of improving the codebase.

[ace7]

I'm currently using auto mode but will try using these offsets, thanks for the tip.
@ksenchy I've also tried various linux (live)distros, the reboot problem seems random as described earlier, memory is in the supported list (G.skill), I've even tried lowering the speed to 5600MHz, Memory is stable, and my system is stable, reboots just don't work half of the time.

I appreciate any fixes that might come my way but we all need to realize that some accountability is in order.
Regardless if MCR/PowerDown is, auto, on, or off hidden under multiple sub-menus or not even manually configured at all (inexperienced users) sleep or reboot should always work, always. This should not be an issue at all. This should not require the noob user to go and edit for example offsets for reboot to work. It should just work.

Many of us have paid for premium boards.

Thanks for reading, I'm done with my rant but I would also not mind other people ranting until this get fixed.

[polyh3dron]

Exact same thing happening on my X670E Extreme. Also was happening to me on a X670E Strix-F Gaming, and a X670E Hero.

[666CZR]

Almost "glad" (not for you) to hear this. So it's not a defective board but a BIOS problem, as I was expecting.

[ksenchy]

Sleep issues are usually an indication of unstable memory. You can completely eliminate windows being the problem by downloading a linux ISO and create live boot USB stick and try it out there. If that fails, you have your answer 

[Mister_Benson]

sinon, avant d'utiliser les grands moyens en passant sous Linux, et le problème de mise en veille dû à un problème de mémoire instable, essayez comme beaucoup de désactiver la restauration du contexte mémoire et le power down dans les 2 menus du bios. Dans mon cas je suis sur Gzskill 6000 30/38/38/96

J'essaye de te mettre des photos

[HatsuneMiku39]

I can say while i have tried many Bios versions with stock settings, no EXPO/XMP no other settings. WHen i try wake up my system, the system gets freezed on wakeup, and need a hard shutdown and poweron. With the Bios 2101 and the Pro Art X670 all works fine with EXPO and other tweaks. No Crashes or stability Issues. My system now runs like many days with many standby periodes and all runs good. But ASUS must fix the new Bios Versions. I plan in future to switch to the 9950X3D, and these needs a new Bios -.-

[frenzyff]

You do realise its not only the board that is involved in sleep and hibernate issues?
If a gpu driver is misbehaving for example a system can freeze waking up from sleep.

Same for sound drivers network etc......

Sleep is working fine here.

That said im still using bios 2007 on X670E-Extreme