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Help for RAM overclock (G.Skill Trident-Z 2x16GB - Samsung B-Die)

Wolfdale
Level 7
Hello guys, recently I bought a G.Skill Trident-Z 2x16GB memory kit. Exact model number F4-3200C14D-32GTZSK. The ICs are Samsung's famous B-Die, but so far I'm having issues clocking the kit anywhere higher than 3600MHz. It can boot at 3600/14-14-14-30 @ 1.44v, but anything higher than 3600MHz won't even post, regardless of RAM voltage, SA voltage or VCCIO voltage. I know that given it's density (consisting of two 16GB modules) it won't overclock as good as 8GB B-die sticks, but I feel somewhat disappointed that I can't even hit 3733MHz.

I guess some of the secondary/tertiary timings need to be adjusted manually and I know some boards like Maximus IX Apex have built-in memory presets by Raja, Elmor and other clockers. Unfortunately that's not the case with the Z370-F Gaming I have, but the board still allows setting secondary&tertiary timings manually.

So... I'm wondering if someone could provide help on those secondary/tertiary timings or provide the whole optimized memory preset to type-in manually. Any help will be greatly appreciated! 🙂

So far that's the best I have and it's... disappointing:
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Wolfdale wrote:
Thanks for sharing the settings! If anyone's interested, here is Raja's profile:











I have the same dram. is that possible to overclock to 4000mhz?

It might also be that you do not have the best binned b-dies. I think it was buildzoid (youtube: actually hardcore overclocking) who stated in a video that the 3200 c14 b dies are usually the worst ones.

Silent_Scone
Super Moderator
Are you able to get those settings stable on your Strix, or in fact POST?
13900KS / 8000 CAS36 / ROG APEX Z790 / ROG TUF RTX 4090

Silent Scone wrote:
Are you able to get those settings stable on your Strix, or in fact POST?


I'm at work and haven't tried yet. I guess they won't really work because as Raja already said the boards are pretty different. But I'm still going to give it a try.

Wolfdale wrote:
I'm at work and haven't tried yet. I guess they won't really work because as Raja already said the boards are pretty different. But I'm still going to give it a try.



try some looser timmings @ 1.4v u can even try 1.45v safly
try 1.3 - 1.32v vccio / vcssa

also i read a ton of forums befofre over clocking my ram from 3000 to 4000 read around 3 days of oc forums

asus boards train your ram on boot on my asus z370 wifi board under ram timmings @ the botto mof page there is a training option mine is on and stable up to
4133 with traning on with my 3000 mhz try turning that off

also try asus dram mode to 2 it relaxes timmings to the 2nds .
you shouldnt have issue geting to etleast 3866 on those kits realy werid man 3000 cl 14 , 3200 c l14 , 3600 15 / 3600 16 are samsung bdie

the last 4 kits of g.skill 16gb ( 2 x 8 gb ) rgb 3000 cl 14 are samsubg bdie i can get them to 4133 4000 mhz cl 18 being my sweet spot .
Rig # 1 - 14900Ks SP-118 | 87 MC @ 6.0 GHZ | 5.2 R | 4.7 E | DDR5 48GB @ 8,600 c36 | Strix RTX 4090 | PG27AQN 1440P 27" 360 Hz G-Sync ULMB 2

Rig # 2 - 14900K-SP-120 | 89 MC @ 5.9 GHZ | 5.2 R | 4.7 E | DDR4 32GB @ 4,300 c15 | Strix RTX 3080 | Aoc 1080P 25" 240 Hz G-Sync

Telstar
Level 9
I'm considering a 2x16GB kit to use in my z390 Gene. Which are the best around?
My target would be 4000 cl18, but I think that could be too hard to achieve.

Telstar wrote:
I'm considering a 2x16GB kit to use in my z390 Gene. Which are the best around?
My target would be 4000 cl18, but I think that could be too hard to achieve.


ROFL

I'd stick to something like gskill 3200 c14.

I recently tried the GSkill f4-4400c18D-16GTZR's ($400 US )on my Apex X (on QVL) and could not get more than 3700 with my standard overclock using Raja's "4133" mem timings. Now, I could get the kit to 4300 c19, but only with my cpu running at default speeds .

Ok, now the funny part: My $200 (US) GSkill 3200 c14 Ripjaws will do up to 4300 c18 1.5v ; I'm currently running the kit @ 4200 c17-17-17-38 cr2 at 1.42v on a 53/50nb, no avx offset 8086.....62 read 62 write with AIDA latency as low as 36.9 (using Raja's mem timings). ... Yeah ....go figure.

78744

yes, those are ripjaw 3200 c14 ...on my new 8086


FunknNasty wrote:
ROFL

I'd stick to something like gskill 3200 c14.

I recently tried the GSkill f4-4400c18D-16GTZR's ($400 US )on my Apex X (on QVL) and could not get more than 3700 with my standard overclock using Raja's "4133" mem timings. Now, I could get the kit to 4300 c19, but only with my cpu running at default speeds .

Ok, now the funny part: My $200 (US) GSkill 3200 c14 Ripjaws will do up to 4300 c18 1.5v ; I'm currently running the kit @ 4200 c17-17-17-38 cr2 at 1.42v on a 53/50nb, no avx offset 8086.....62 read 62 write with AIDA latency as low as 36.9 (using Raja's mem timings). ... Yeah ....go figure.

FunknNasty wrote:
I'm currently running the kit @ 4200 c17-17-17-38 cr2 at 1.42v on a 53/50nb, no avx offset 8086

im curious whats your y-cruncher benchmark total computation time with such settings 🙂 multithreaded 2,5 mld digits would be great

x-rated wrote:
im curious whats your y-cruncher benchmark total computation time with such settings 🙂 multithreaded 2,5 mld digits would be great


Not really sure as I don't run HT ....the puters primary use is for a flight simulator that I've always run with HT off. The cpu upgrade is from an 8600K.
But, I"ll experiment over the weekend and report back when done ....