Hello everyone, just joined the forums.
First of all thank you for your help.
Here are my computer specs:
CPU: i9-9900KS
CPU Cooler: Asus ROG Ryujin360 AIO [ROG RYUJIN 360]
MB: ASUS ROG Maximus XI Extreme [ROG MAXIMUS XI EXTREME]
GPU: Asus ROG RTX 3090 [ROG-STRIX-RTX3090-O24G-GAMING]
PSU: Asus ROG Thor 1200W [ROG-THOR-1200P]
CASE: ASUS ROG Strix Helios GX601 [ROG STRIX HELIOS GX601]
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB [F4-4266C17Q-32GTZR]
I just replaced my old 2x8GB DDR4 3000MHz exceleram black kudos memory.
I am trying to tweak my new 4266MHz memory.
Running BIOS 1802 on the XI Extreme.
Extreme Tweak mode 1 will not work with either XMP I or XMP II.
Extreme Tweak mode 2 works with both.
On auto, the VCCSA and VCCIO are pushed to 1.40v. I set them manually to 1.25v (I also booted in Windows with just 1.17v both, but with RAM timings not tweaked)
Enabled MRC fast boot to disable the memory training. Was always changing the memory timings and sometimes the system would hang at different error codes (23, 55, etc).
Disabled virtualisation as it was impacting my AIDA64 Cache & Memory Benchmark.
Now running Extreme Tweak mode 2 on XMP II with manual timings, as shown in the ASRock Timing Configurator:
What is not completely seen in the picture above is RTL and IOL section from ASRock Timing Configurator:
RTL (CHA) D0: 63
RTL (CHA) D1: 64
RTL (CHB) D0: 65
RTL (CHB) D1: 65
IO-L (CHA) D0: 3
IO-L (CHA) D1: 3
IO-L (CHB) D0: 3
IO-L (CHB) D1: 3
IOL Offset (CH A): 25
IOL Offset (CH B): 25
RFR Delay (CH A): 14
RFR Delay (CH B): 14
tWRPRE: 46
Write_Early_ODT: 0
tAONPD: 10
tXP: 7
txpDLL: 25
tPRPDEN: 2
tRDPDEN: 22
tWRPDEN: 46
OREF_RI: 64
tREFIx9: 127
tXSDLL: 1024
tXS_offset: 3
tZQOPER: 512
tMOD: 24
ZQCS_period: 128
tZQCS: 128
Giving the following results:
I opened this thread because I am not sure if I need some help with tweaking the timings next? If yes, I would like to leave the primary timings stock and work with the secondary timings, tertiary timings, etc
Are my RTL and IOL out of the charts?
I ask this because all the values are taken from a screenshot from Silent Scone@ASUS (for which I thank you a lot!) that runs same kit on MAXIMUS XI FORMULA, with i9-9900K, picture attached bellow:
Also, what do you recommend to test stability? I had no BSODs or whatever, just issues with MB sometimes hanging with memory training activated.
Thank you again for all your help!
First of all thank you for your help.
Here are my computer specs:
CPU: i9-9900KS
CPU Cooler: Asus ROG Ryujin360 AIO [ROG RYUJIN 360]
MB: ASUS ROG Maximus XI Extreme [ROG MAXIMUS XI EXTREME]
GPU: Asus ROG RTX 3090 [ROG-STRIX-RTX3090-O24G-GAMING]
PSU: Asus ROG Thor 1200W [ROG-THOR-1200P]
CASE: ASUS ROG Strix Helios GX601 [ROG STRIX HELIOS GX601]
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB [F4-4266C17Q-32GTZR]
I just replaced my old 2x8GB DDR4 3000MHz exceleram black kudos memory.
I am trying to tweak my new 4266MHz memory.
Running BIOS 1802 on the XI Extreme.
Extreme Tweak mode 1 will not work with either XMP I or XMP II.
Extreme Tweak mode 2 works with both.
On auto, the VCCSA and VCCIO are pushed to 1.40v. I set them manually to 1.25v (I also booted in Windows with just 1.17v both, but with RAM timings not tweaked)
Enabled MRC fast boot to disable the memory training. Was always changing the memory timings and sometimes the system would hang at different error codes (23, 55, etc).
Disabled virtualisation as it was impacting my AIDA64 Cache & Memory Benchmark.
Now running Extreme Tweak mode 2 on XMP II with manual timings, as shown in the ASRock Timing Configurator:
What is not completely seen in the picture above is RTL and IOL section from ASRock Timing Configurator:
RTL (CHA) D0: 63
RTL (CHA) D1: 64
RTL (CHB) D0: 65
RTL (CHB) D1: 65
IO-L (CHA) D0: 3
IO-L (CHA) D1: 3
IO-L (CHB) D0: 3
IO-L (CHB) D1: 3
IOL Offset (CH A): 25
IOL Offset (CH B): 25
RFR Delay (CH A): 14
RFR Delay (CH B): 14
tWRPRE: 46
Write_Early_ODT: 0
tAONPD: 10
tXP: 7
txpDLL: 25
tPRPDEN: 2
tRDPDEN: 22
tWRPDEN: 46
OREF_RI: 64
tREFIx9: 127
tXSDLL: 1024
tXS_offset: 3
tZQOPER: 512
tMOD: 24
ZQCS_period: 128
tZQCS: 128
Giving the following results:
I opened this thread because I am not sure if I need some help with tweaking the timings next? If yes, I would like to leave the primary timings stock and work with the secondary timings, tertiary timings, etc
Are my RTL and IOL out of the charts?
I ask this because all the values are taken from a screenshot from Silent Scone@ASUS (for which I thank you a lot!) that runs same kit on MAXIMUS XI FORMULA, with i9-9900K, picture attached bellow:
Also, what do you recommend to test stability? I had no BSODs or whatever, just issues with MB sometimes hanging with memory training activated.
Thank you again for all your help!
Enderwiggin03 wrote:
I tried 4266mhz on mine since I built it in 2018, slightly different kit than yours, but 1802 bios allows for XMP, but it fails memtest86 (unstable). I've managed to get significantly better timings at 4000mhz and better performance than what you posted at 4266mhz.
It seems like the issue was myself, not the hardware. Silly me, lesson learned, always load optimized defaults after making hardware changes.
I just loaded optimized defaults, activated XMP 2, set vccsa and vccio to 1.25v, maximus tweak mode 2, set tWRWR_dg to 4 (otherwise the MB will set it to 8 and in AIDA64 Cache And Memory Benchmark I get half of write speed on RAM).
After that, the memory looked like this and the MB trained the RTL and IOL values as following:
Values not seen in the above screenshot:
RTL (CHA) D0: 63
RTL (CHA) D1: 64
RTL (CHB) D0: 65
RTL (CHB) D1: 65
IO-L (CHA) D0: 7
IO-L (CHA) D1: 7
IO-L (CHB) D0: 7
IO-L (CHB) D1: 7
IOL Offset (CH A): 21
IOL Offset (CH B): 21
RFR Delay (CH A): 14
RFR Delay (CH B): 14
tWRPRE: 45
Write_Early_ODT: 0
tAONPD: 10
tXP: 7
txpDLL: 25
tPRPDEN: 2
tRDPDEN: 22
tWRPDEN: 45
OREF_RI: 64
tREFIx9: 118
tXSDLL: 1024
tXS_offset: 3
tZQOPER: 512
tMOD: 24
ZQCS_period: 128
tZQCS: 128
Everything was fine since then, no more stuck at debug codes, etc, after that I just had to work my other settings back.
The final problem was that my i9-9900KS was underclocked via offset since I was using the old DDR4 3000MHz and I had to work my CPU voltage a bit up for the system to always succes.
Final results, bellow:
My final question, are the RTL and IOL values properly training? I am worried about RTL 63-64-65-65. I enabled the MRC Fast Boot after it stabilized here.
Do I need to try to optimize timings further?
Thank you everyone in advance!
Kiganazil wrote:
It seems like the issue was myself, not the hardware. Silly me, lesson learned, always load optimized defaults after making hardware changes.
I just loaded optimized defaults, activated XMP 2, set vccsa and vccio to 1.25v, maximus tweak mode 2, set tWRWR_dg to 4 (otherwise the MB will set it to 8 and in AIDA64 Cache And Memory Benchmark I get half of write speed on RAM).
After that, the memory looked like this and the MB trained the RTL and IOL values as following:
Values not seen in the above screenshot:
RTL (CHA) D0: 63
RTL (CHA) D1: 64
RTL (CHB) D0: 65
RTL (CHB) D1: 65
IO-L (CHA) D0: 7
IO-L (CHA) D1: 7
IO-L (CHB) D0: 7
IO-L (CHB) D1: 7
IOL Offset (CH A): 21
IOL Offset (CH B): 21
RFR Delay (CH A): 14
RFR Delay (CH B): 14
tWRPRE: 45
Write_Early_ODT: 0
tAONPD: 10
tXP: 7
txpDLL: 25
tPRPDEN: 2
tRDPDEN: 22
tWRPDEN: 45
OREF_RI: 64
tREFIx9: 118
tXSDLL: 1024
tXS_offset: 3
tZQOPER: 512
tMOD: 24
ZQCS_period: 128
tZQCS: 128
Everything was fine since then, no more stuck at debug codes, etc, after that I just had to work my other settings back.
The final problem was that my i9-9900KS was underclocked via offset since I was using the old DDR4 3000MHz and I had to work my CPU voltage a bit up for the system to always succes.
Final results, bellow:
My final question, are the RTL and IOL values properly training? I am worried about RTL 63-64-65-65. I enabled the MRC Fast Boot after it stabilized here.
Do I need to try to optimize timings further?
Thank you everyone in advance!
I set all of my RTL's to 60 (after RTL/IOL Training enabled) and IOLs are at 4.
