Maximus VIII Impact Terrible slowdowns and underclocking? Help!!

[meanie]

Hi, so i just built a new computer using this board with the following parts :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII IMPACT Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($234.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($74.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Mushkin ECO3 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($51.83 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define Nano S Mini ITX Desktop Case ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.85 @ Amazon)
Total: $701.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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TL;DR bulleted version:

• Extreme slowdowns after running a game
  
• Cant see typing while typing
  
• scrolling is extremely slow
  
• trying to open any windows menu stuff doesn't have any visuals for the most part
  
• probably more stuff but im getting tired and frustrated
  

Running on Windows 10.
So everything ran fine for the first night and 1-2 days after the build was completed..no issues, ran everything fine so far. I didn't really mess with anything in the BIOS manually and just started it IIRC. In Dual Intelligent Processor 5 I think I set it to optimize and changed the fan speeds.. maybe this was a mistake as the bios seems to be overridden by it?

Anyway so last night I put the system into "Away Mode" using DIP5/AIS3(?) and it seemed to shut off my screen so I turned my monitor off and went to sleep. I think the reason i tried this was because when I put it to sleep the fans were still running at a pretty high speed it looked like.
The following morning I briefly tried to wake the PC and noticed it wasn't sending anything to the monitor.. but had to run out of the door for work so I didn't think too much about it. I got home from work and this issue persisted, causing me to have to force-shutdown by holding the power button down. On restart it gave me a screen that I hadn't seen before and it mentioned that overclock had failed and to go into BIOS to fix it...
I went into BIOS and I believe I did something along the lines of an the EZ optimization. So I start the computer back up and my ethernet connection is showing as "Unknown", I unplug the ethernet cord from both rotuer and PC and it seems to start working again. Okay nbd. I try to run a game I had played consistently with no issues. I get in and it runs the same, fine. but when I alt tab to anything there's major slowdowns. I try to open the little tray icon window and its blank. I get to a Steam chat and I can't see anything I'm typing at all until I hit enter and alt tab back and forth to see the text after it's been sent.
I started freaking out and looked at DIP5 and it looked like my CPU was fluctuating between 0.800mhz and 3.9mhz . Temps seemed to stay down at 30c or so, same as usual. I don't really recall the clock speed ever dropping that low so I thought maybe it was underclocking all of a sudden? Okay clearly I messed up some BIOS settings or something in that DIP5 thing so I tried to start by reverting everything to default. I restarted my PC and after repeating the same process it persisted. So I went into DIP5 and looked at the TPU, it said it was raising CPU speed by 40% but maintained that 0.800mhz speed. i opened it and moved one of the ratio sliders? up and immediately my screen started to strobe all over the place so I freaked out and held the power off. I made sure to reset EVERYTHING in bios to default including my RAM's XMP profile. i guess somewhere it switched from AHCI to RAID and so my boot disk wasn't working. Fixed that and got the system going again. no visual errors this time, and I went into DIP5 and reset the TPU profile to default.

From here it seemed to work "fine" while running the game and tabbing to chats/browsing for an hour or two...and then it started having the same issue. i've restarted the PC and tried a game again and lo and behold it persists. I restarted and haven't opened a game so it hasn't had the same issue but my guess is if I play a game it'll start the heavy slowdowns again.
I don't even know what to search for for this problem...i've looked into underclocking and slowdowns and nothing seems to match my issues. i definitely should not be touching anything related to overclocking at all and i've learned my lesson but how can I fix this?? Help please!


And sorry for how long winded this is I really don't know how to explain this better because i can't exactly capture it..

[brkkab123]

It would help us help you if we had some more information. What o.s. are you using ? Do you also, have a mechanical h.d.d. in your pc. You'll need one. All your personal stuff should be kept on it (Contacts, Documents, Downloads, Music, Pictures, Saved Games & Videos. Don't leave any of those on a ssd, as they'll eat up your space real fast.
What games you have installed and if they're updated ?
To run games decently you need a video card. On-board graphics isn't good for gaming at all.
You're slow down is probably from too many temporary files. Run Disk Cleanup if you're using Windows and let it clean everything it finds. Then run it one more time and this time click on Cleanup System Files and let it clean what it finds.
Then restart your pc and after it restarts, if you have Windows 10, type Disk Defragmenter into Cortana's search box. Then let it optimize your ssd and restart your pc one more time. It should be faster now.

[Nate152]

Hi meanie

Welcome to the ROG forum.

The overclocking failed message is likely due to your ram, 2133MHz is default, anything beyond that is considered overclocked and may require some voltage adjustments. You can set your ram manually rather than using XMP profile, sometimes this gives better results.

I would recommend not overclocking at all with a 430w power supply that could be the problem with the slowdowns, you'll want a higher wattage psu for a pcie gpu and overclocking.

You can disable disk defragmenter, ssd's don't need to be defragged and shortens their life.

On the extreme tweaker tab reset to defaults (F5), set XMP or set your ram manually and try the vccio voltage at 1.20v and the cpu system agent voltage at 1.20v then F10 and Enter to save and exit and see how she goes.

[meanie]

hi everyone, thanks for responding!
I'm headed out to work until around 6pm PST and will update when I get home then. definitely will remove OCing settings and will update with all my system info. but no mechanical hdd, only a 256 SSD and i didnt manually enable defrag on it on my own. yes games are installed to it along with os

updates later! thank you!

last night i ran memtest86 for like 10 hours and it did 42(?) tests and had 0 errors, fwtw

[Nate152]

Thank you

If your ram passed the test you can ignore the voltage settings I posted. As brkkab123 says the onboard gpu won't play games the best and could be the cause of the slow downs. You can try lowering the game settings and see if this helps.

A 500w psu is recommended for the gtx 1070 but you want a little more headroom for overclocking, I will suggest a quality psu in the 750w range for a pcie gpu and overclocking.

You can set the windows power plan to high performance if you wish to keep your cpu at a constant 3.9GHz.

[meanie]

Nate152 wrote:
Thank you

If your ram passed the test you can ignore the voltage settings I posted. As brkkab123 says the onboard gpu won't play games the best and could be the cause of the slow downs. You can try lowering the game settings and see if this helps.

A 500w psu is recommended for the gtx 1070 but you want a little more headroom for overclocking, I will suggest a quality psu in the 750w range for a pcie gpu and overclocking.

You can set the windows power plan to high performance if you wish to keep your cpu at a constant 3.9GHz.

Thank you for the reply. I tried to be clear but I won't be doing any heavy gaming on this iGPU I am aware that it's not the best for any gaming but I am just saving until I can upgrade. Same with PSU/Cooling, I got the Define Nano S so I could look into liquid cooling with time.
I ran that disk cleanup and it would've freed about 200mb or so. I should state I have only had the PC setup for about 3 days, and 2 of those days it was fine and the 3rd morning it started having these problems.


It seems to have spent all those hours only testing my CPU? I think I also need to run ramtest as well? I will do that when I get home, hopefully it doesn't take an additional 10 hours..

I won't be using the same PSU or cooler once I upgrade to a new GPU, actually. I'm just using this as barebones while I save up to upgrade those components.

The thing is I had 0 issues running the game at lowest/low settings on the iGPU while being able to have a bunch of chrome tabs open, running steam/discord and listening to music. It only started happening after I went into Away Mode and then restarted it with whatever bios settings got changed.
Is there a way to disable the Dual Intelligent Processor 5 settings? Maybe I should just set the XMP profile for the RAM in the BIOS and turn off any other "overclocking" within the bios.

I will also definitely check the power plan, I forget about those things when I'm not on a laptop or something plus I thought DIP5's power settings managed that as well.

I can't do this anything on the system for another 5 hours though, so no real updates.

[meanie]

Nate152 wrote:
Thank you

If your ram passed the test you can ignore the voltage settings I posted. As brkkab123 says the onboard gpu won't play games the best and could be the cause of the slow downs. You can try lowering the game settings and see if this helps.

A 500w psu is recommended for the gtx 1070 but you want a little more headroom for overclocking, I will suggest a quality psu in the 750w range for a pcie gpu and overclocking.

You can set the windows power plan to high performance if you wish to keep your cpu at a constant 3.9GHz.

I've reset Xtreme tweaker to default, XMP for RAM is disabled but I could not find a way to change any voltage settings.

I also uninstalled Dual Intelligent Processor 5. I ran the game and still have this issue...even after I close it the slowdown/lag persists.

I opened up CPU-z during the game running and it showed my core speed drop down to 800 and that's when the slowdowns seemed to start. It hasn't really changed since from what I can tell :

[Nate152]

High cpu temps will cause your cpu to throttle, how are your cpu temps?

If cpu temps are ok try setting the windows power plan to high performance and check cpu-z.

[meanie]

i've enabled the power supply setting high performance.

my temps have never gone above 40c even while playing a game, so i dont know. BUT my computer just force shutdown itself a bit after that last reply. i wasnt doing anything but sitting here with the chrome window open

i've noticed that my cpu will still jump from 3k+ down to 0.800mhz randomly when i first opened cpu-z a second ago :




right when i opened it tyhough it was at 3k+ mhz

[meanie]

At the bottom of the bios screen it says Version 2.17.1246

I believe I an currently updating it to .1701

Edit: looks to be the exact same version and now I might be stuck in a boot loop?