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Maximus Viii Extreme quad sli

FuturisticMC
Level 7
I have a question about four-way SLI on the maximus viii extreme.
I know that there are four PCI express slots on the motherboard but I heard that only three of them can be used for video cards and the bottom one is only for soundcards or storage cards. What I want to know is can you bypass this, for example can you go into to the bios and change something for it to work or can you still hook up the four video cards in sli and it still work.
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Korth
Level 14
PLX chips introduce latencies anyhow. A truly extreme platform would offer four PCIe 3.0 slots paired with a chipset capable of simultaneously addressing all the lanes in four PCIe 3.0 slots. Current Skylake stuff fails to really meet either criteria.
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Korth wrote:
PLX chips introduce latencies anyhow. A truly extreme platform would offer four PCIe 3.0 slots paired with a chipset capable of simultaneously addressing all the lanes in four PCIe 3.0 slots. Current Skylake stuff fails to really meet either criteria.

It is a little strange to have 3 generations of chips with a 4th (broadwell) hiding in the middle that are all strikingly similar and on top of that to lose total channels/bandwidth with the latest.

This is the trend I've been wondering about for some time - where low power focus increasing hurts those of us who don't care about a few dozen watts here and there we want horsepower...

Skylake does deliver there - same performance at lower temps than 49xx and 59xx and correspondingly a little more overclock overhead, but not much...

cekim wrote:
It is a little strange to have 3 generations of chips with a 4th (broadwell) hiding in the middle that are all strikingly similar and on top of that to lose total channels/bandwidth with the latest.

Not really strange. The PCIe 3.0 lane controllers are built into the processor die and they can't be moved off die because the whole point is to have their bandwidth piped directly into the processor without any bottlenecks. Intel copies the same block of PCIe Uncore circuitry onto all their processor designs, having a "standardized" design makes all their PCI SIG chores much easier because the "standard" is - as always - impelled more by actual device intercompatibility than by arcane technical datasheets.

And Intel makes their real money selling server tech. Performance is important but "standardized" compatibility (and reliability, and cost) are far more important. They could (and eventually will) design processors with more integrated PCIe lane controllers. The server folks tend to fill up their PCIe slots with fast storage and workstation cards, more lanes are always better but for now it's more economical to add more processors and blades to the racks than it is to upgrade the computing density built into them, especially since more Uncore on the die must mean less of something else on the die (or worse, it must mean larger and more expensive silicon). It turns out that the PCIe controller block isn't easy to shrink down on smaller fab lithography, just one of those things which has to be a certain size to work properly - we can count on Intel to figure it out (at some astronomical cost, no doubt) but we're apparently gonna be stuck with 40 lanes for long while to come.

Enthusiasts and powergamers want x16/x16/x16/x16 multi-GPU setups. Many of us also wouldn't mind maybe 8 more lanes to run superfast boot drives. Companies like Intel and Asus are more than willing to accommodate our desire to pay top dollar for top tech. But we're not even a tiny drop in the bucket compared to what those big server fleets are worth, we're good for "researching" overclock-related stuff but the IT platforms are where all the demand (and money) for uber tech all comes from.

I'm still expecting (hoping) that next-gen LGA2011-3 processors will pack PCIe 3.0 controllers capable of running 48 or 56 or 64 lanes. But it's just not going to happen until Intel perceives a lucrative demand for more lanes in the server arena (or at least the opportunity to create such a demand). AMD favours chipset-based PCIe 3.0 controllers so Intel really has no competition to worry about, they already dominate the market, and they'll probably milk their advantage for as long as they can before needing to push this area of technology forward.
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FuturisticMC
Level 7
Well dang, I'm mad now because I really wanted 4-way sli.
Sure there's no other way with this board?

Skunk
Level 8
You can go 4-way Crossfire, but the bandwidth between the cards will be very limited. 2-way SLI of 980 Ti or Titan X cards is very good when gaming at UHD resolutions...not really sure why you'd want more, other than to brag about how much money you wasted. If NVIDIA does introduce the dual GM200 cards, then you can put two of them in the M8E for a 4-way set-up, if you so desire (you can source two Titan Z's now if you really, really wanted to, as well).

Vlada011
Level 10
I don't understant... If someone want 4 way SLI only logic way is i7-5930K.
Overclocked on 4.-4.2GHz in single threaded applications reach speed of Skylake i7-6700K but in multi applications is much better and offer 40 lanes.
Rampage 5 Extreme cost about 400 now and 4x8GB DDR4 2800 and that's platform for Quad SLI or Tri Way SLI.

FuturisticMC
Level 7
I guess I'll do 2 way with Poseidon GTX 980ti's