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Asus HERO MH8 & 960 EVO SAMSUNG

Mentas
Level 7
Simple question is there any special procedure or bios changes to install the Samsung 960 evo pcie on the m.2 slot ?

note* have two more sdd´s on the sata intel controller, No sdd´s installed on ASMEDIA
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JustinThyme
Level 13
Not familiar with the BIOS of the hero but in the Extreme when Install it in a PCIE adaptor you need to set the speed of the PCIE slot that is going to the PCH controller to X4 instead of leaving it in auto or it will run X2. Again, not sure if this applies to the Hero but I would think it does.



“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, I'm not sure about the former” ~ Albert Einstein

I simply installed my Samsung 960 EVO in the M.2 slot, and plugged in my SATA drive into the first open SATA port I could get to from behind the Noctis 450 case that I have, and everything turned out just fine. I didn't have to touch or change any of the BIOS settings on my M8H.

JustinThyme wrote:
Not familiar with the BIOS of the hero but in the Extreme when Install it in a PCIE adaptor you need to set the speed of the PCIE slot that is going to the PCH controller to X4 instead of leaving it in auto or it will run X2. Again, not sure if this applies to the Hero but I would think it does.


No matter how much you leave it in Auto or x4, in Maximus Hero VIII there is no difference of performance nor speed of Windows startup, works perfect.

HeroVIII wrote:
No matter how much you leave it in Auto or x4, in Maximus Hero VIII there is no difference of performance nor speed of Windows startup, works perfect.



May not be any difference is start up but a performance hit is pretty much guaranteed. Regardless there is no arguement to be made to leave an X4 device to change itself when the setting is there specifically to make it X4.

Just went through the hero manual and verified all the settings are the same as other Maximus boards related to this specific set up. Page 3-34 specifially states that auto results in x2 mode that will revert to X1 if you are using any of the x1 slots as they share bandwidth. Earlier in the manual is says that when you populate slot 4 the x1 slots are disabled so there is conflicting info in the manual. :confused:

This has been shown to happen across multiple Z170 platforms resulting in reduced bandwidth, there is another recent post here with half speeds on a hero that was resolved by going to X4 instead of auto. Launch Samsung magician and it will show you what speed its configured as. To get half speed or thereabouts on PCIE 4 is 100% of the time a result of running x2 or it running at Gen 2 speed. There are multiple posts across multiple boards with the exact same issue that was resolved by putting the bandwidth setting of PCIE4 to X4 instead of auto. I had the exact same problem on an M8E that was just as simple as selecting X4.

If you have experienced differently then please post up configuration and benchmark results so we can decide which parts of the manual are accurate and which are not.:cool:



“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, I'm not sure about the former” ~ Albert Einstein

JustinThyme wrote:
May not be any difference is start up but a performance hit is pretty much guaranteed. Regardless there is no arguement to be made to leave an X4 device to change itself when the setting is there specifically to make it X4.

Just went through the hero manual and verified all the settings are the same as other Maximus boards related to this specific set up. Page 3-34 specifially states that auto results in x2 mode that will revert to X1 if you are using any of the x1 slots as they share bandwidth. Earlier in the manual is says that when you populate slot 4 the x1 slots are disabled so there is conflicting info in the manual. :confused:

This has been shown to happen across multiple Z170 platforms resulting in reduced bandwidth, there is another recent post here with half speeds on a hero that was resolved by going to X4 instead of auto. Launch Samsung magician and it will show you what speed its configured as. To get half speed or thereabouts on PCIE 4 is 100% of the time a result of running x2 or it running at Gen 2 speed. There are multiple posts across multiple boards with the exact same issue that was resolved by putting the bandwidth setting of PCIE4 to X4 instead of auto. I had the exact same problem on an M8E that was just as simple as selecting X4.

If you have experienced differently then please post up configuration and benchmark results so we can decide which parts of the manual are accurate and which are not.:cool:


Hello JustinThyme, my tests began with the ground that had a Samsung 951 NVMe in the appropriate slot on the motherboard and Windows 10 Pro 64 UEFI appeared on the screen very fast, oh a timer in the task manager in the startup tab I Indicated 17.8 seconds and so ever, incredible.
Later I decided to add a second M.2 with the adapter:
https://www.asus.com/Motherboard-Accessory/HYPER_M2_X4_MINI_CARD/
PCIe x4 slot by, and the system is reset only three times, which was strange, until Windows came on the screen. Look at the time and marked 25 sec, hence it can be to miss some performance start, but nothing more I noticed, or games or complex applications.
Not content with the marked time, look for the manual and I actually found this section, and activate it to x4 and even enable the Fast Bot, and nothing, no change at all. The Auto mode states that if you use the slot it will go directly to x4, and when it does not stay in x2, and the option x4, I think it is for sure if any adapter or hard disk gave problems, I with my components as I say goes well .
Regarding the times that the BIOS marks I am still the same, in 25seg, I think that perhaps with a clean installation already with the hard disks installed in the plate, a new configuration is made and this is improved.
Say that I have them as is without any type of RAID.
For the synthetic tests I use to make sure it worked correctly use Crystal Disk Mark and the tests came out correct on both hard disks based on the references of some reviews. I did the test one disc later to another and finally when one did the writing test start the other one that starts with the reading and they were perfect. Also use an MKV file and pass it from one to another and on the contrary and everything okay, I did this by enabling and disabling the options mentioned in the BIOS.
Greetings.

HeroVIII wrote:
No matter how much you leave it in Auto or x4, in Maximus Hero VIII there is no difference of performance nor speed of Windows startup, works perfect.

Correct. It's only if you use a SSD adapter (PCie) on the third slot: PCie 3,0x4, (liket this one: Intel Solid-State Drive 750 Series - solid state drive - 400 GB - PCI Express 3.0 x4 (NVMe) you have to change it to x4. If not it will simply not work (BIOS will not see it)
When you use M.2 slot on the mobo, BIOS will automatically configure SSD (NVMe or SATA).

emsir wrote:
Correct. It's only if you use a SSD adapter (PCie) on the third slot: PCie 3,0x4, (liket this one: Intel Solid-State Drive 750 Series - solid state drive - 400 GB - PCI Express 3.0 x4 (NVMe) you have to change it to x4. If not it will simply not work (BIOS will not see it)
When you use M.2 slot on the mobo, BIOS will automatically configure SSD (NVMe or SATA).


JustinThyme wrote:
May not be any difference is start up but a performance hit is pretty much guaranteed. Regardless there is no arguement to be made to leave an X4 device to change itself when the setting is there specifically to make it X4.

Just went through the hero manual and verified all the settings are the same as other Maximus boards related to this specific set up. Page 3-34 specifially states that auto results in x2 mode that will revert to X1 if you are using any of the x1 slots as they share bandwidth. Earlier in the manual is says that when you populate slot 4 the x1 slots are disabled so there is conflicting info in the manual. :confused:

This has been shown to happen across multiple Z170 platforms resulting in reduced bandwidth, there is another recent post here with half speeds on a hero that was resolved by going to X4 instead of auto. Launch Samsung magician and it will show you what speed its configured as. To get half speed or thereabouts on PCIE 4 is 100% of the time a result of running x2 or it running at Gen 2 speed. There are multiple posts across multiple boards with the exact same issue that was resolved by putting the bandwidth setting of PCIE4 to X4 instead of auto. I had the exact same problem on an M8E that was just as simple as selecting X4.

If you have experienced differently then please post up configuration and benchmark results so we can decide which parts of the manual are accurate and which are not.:cool:


Ok, I'll try to put it to x4 for a long time and in my case and I'll tell you if I have changes. Thanks for your advice.

HeroVIII wrote:
Ok, I'll try to put it to x4 for a long time and in my case and I'll tell you if I have changes. Thanks for your advice.




After a day of intense use, and not to notice any change of performance, I return for a second time to the Auto position.

Copy literally:

Auto: If insert a x4 card onto PCIex4_3, switch to x4 mode.If not, switch to x2 mode.
X2 Mode: X2 for PCIeX4_3; X1 for PCIeX1_2 and PCIeX1_3
X4 Mode: X4 for PCIeX4_3