Rampage V Extreme - Not TPM 2.0 Compatible? (Windows 11)

[Angstromboli]

So apparently Windows 11 will require a TPM 2.0 module. Is it true X99 and therefore the Rampage V extreme doesn't support this at all?

Supermicro makes a 20-pin TPM 2.0 module: https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/accessories/addon/AOM-TPM-9665V.php

But from my searching it looks like the R5E only supports TPM/FW3.19 which is 1.2, not TPM-L R2.0 which is TPM 2.0?

On the other hand I've seen reviews on Amazon for TPM 2.0 chips where people specifically mention using them on X99 motherboards, so maybe it's down to the motherboard itself. From my understanding, TPM 2.0 is not backwards compatible with TPM 1.2.

EDIT: I decided to just take one for the team and buy one just to see. Specifically I got the "SuperMicro AOM-TPM-9665V-C" (V for vertical orientation and C for client, as opposed to server). It probably won't work but whatever. I'll post an update when it arrives. Should be here within a few days, I got the faster shipping.

EDIT2: So the TPM 2.0 module actually worked (model number above). Screenshots in this post below of BIOS and TPM.msc menu: https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?124610-Rampage-V-Extreme-Not-TPM-2-0-Compatible-(Windows-1...

I'm running the original Rampage V Extreme. You literally just plug it into the slot and it showed up in the bios as shown, and Windows accepted it, zero configuration required, didn't even have to enable it.

EDIT3: To be clear, even though the TPM 2.0 module works with the motherboard, the PC Health Check app still says my computer is NOT compatible with Windows 11 because the processor isn't supported. It's a 5960x.

[jagan2003]

Absolutely worst outcome for all us RVE owners

Angstromboli wrote:
To be clear, the "PC Health Check" app still says "This PC can't run Windows 11" even with the TPM 2.0, saying "the processor isn't supported for Windows 11."

Like I touched on before, any CPU using the Rampage V Extreme is probably not compatible with Windows 11 anyway (according to the current requirements).

[Axle_Grease]

I didn't want to use an internal drive for checking out an alpha version of WIndows 11 so used Rufus to install it to a USB stick. It's a fast 256GB stick so it's good for this purpose. Rufus takes .esd/.wim install files. You'll see a >4GB one in the sources folder, although I renamed install.wim to install.esd probably unnecessarily. In any case, it was very handy in avoiding the the TPM and CPU compatibility check. I have no TPM and my CPU is a Haswell-E. Perhaps I'll try running it on my 2009 build tomorrow.

[eisenb11]

Axle Grease wrote:
I didn't want to use an internal drive for checking out an alpha version of WIndows 11 so used Rufus to install it to a USB stick. It's a fast 256GB stick so it's good for this purpose. Rufus takes .esd/.wim install files. You'll see a >4GB one in the sources folder, although I renamed install.wim to install.esd probably unnecessarily. In any case, it was very handy in avoiding the the TPM and CPU compatibility check. I have no TPM and my CPU is a Haswell-E. Perhaps I'll try running it on my 2009 build tomorrow.

My understanding is that the beta version doesn't have the block in place if it's the dev channel version. The block comes in later on release.

That's what really riles me up... MS doesn't have to block our CPUs. I'm running a i7-6900k. Even without the OC, I've yet to run into anything where I'm hurting on CPU power. Been spending upgrade monies on the graphics card since that's what seems to get stressed these days. Shame that MS wants to sunset this thing. My other computer has a CPU that's another generation older (i7-5-something) - Windows 10 boots in like 3 seconds even.

Shame on MS for unnecessarily increasing the amount of eWaste out there. But maybe it's not too late - sounds like a lot of folks are complaining about this move on limiting CPU support.

[Axle_Grease]

eisenb11 wrote:
My understanding is that the beta version doesn't have the block in place if it's the dev channel version. The block comes in later on release.

That's what really riles me up... MS doesn't have to block our CPUs. I'm running a i7-6900k. Even without the OC, I've yet to run into anything where I'm hurting on CPU power. Been spending upgrade monies on the graphics card since that's what seems to get stressed these days. Shame that MS wants to sunset this thing. My other computer has a CPU that's another generation older (i7-5-something) - Windows 10 boots in like 3 seconds even.

Shame on MS for unnecessarily increasing the amount of eWaste out there. But maybe it's not too late - sounds like a lot of folks are complaining about this move on limiting CPU support.

I thought the very limited CPU compatibility list was to spur people to buy new Windows 11 PCs, and when I read that Windows 11 availability is later this year while the owners of existing PCs running Windows 10 don't get the free upgrade until next year, well that kind of reinforces my suspicion. I'm in the same position as you. I upgraded the GPU. There is no Windows 11 performance issue on this PC. So much can happen in a few months. Lots of angry people can have an impact.

[theroc44]

The fact thatTPM 2.0 is required for win11 is $#1t. I have been running pretty decently on my old broadwell-e, this aging battleship lol. Haven't upgraded all this time waiting for the solid CPU to pop up(DDR5 and PCIE-4.0), not to mention its been impossible to buy a gpu nowadays, anyway I am probably gonna leave WIN10 on this aging PC and upgrade a new pc to win11 sometime next year. I read somewhere there is a tiny frame per/sec improvement with win11 and a newer cpu.
Anyway, I was just curious.......how many people out there are still rocking an haswell-e or a broadwell-e?
My fading beauty is a 6950x 4.2ghz, 2080ti FTW, ddr4 3200 and an old school sm951 m.2 lenovo HD lol plus some other hd's
I love this old lady 😉 lol cheers to all you still rocking the old school system lol

[JOSHSKORN]

theroc44 wrote:
The fact thatTPM 2.0 is required for win11 is $#1t. I have been running pretty decently on my old broadwell-e, this aging battleship lol. Haven't upgraded all this time waiting for the solid CPU to pop up(DDR5 and PCIE-4.0), not to mention its been impossible to buy a gpu nowadays, anyway I am probably gonna leave WIN10 on this aging PC and upgrade a new pc to win11 sometime next year. I read somewhere there is a tiny frame per/sec improvement with win11 and a newer cpu.
Anyway, I was just curious.......how many people out there are still rocking an haswell-e or a broadwell-e?
My fading beauty is a 6950x 4.2ghz, 2080ti FTW, ddr4 3200 and an old school sm951 m.2 lenovo HD lol plus some other hd's
I love this old lady 😉 lol cheers to all you still rocking the old school system lol

I'm kinda with you on this. As much as I'd like to be cutting edge and have the latest version of Windows when it comes out, I might forgo this until I need to upgrade or until something exciting comes out. I have the Haswell 5960x, I specifically chose that because I wanted something that will last me for a very long time without having to upgrade again. Given the cost of the motherboard and the CPU, which itself was probably $1,500 together, I probably could've gone either route. That is, get a 4-core at the time, then upgrade 3 years later and spent about the same amount of money. But, I wanted to build something once, although I did upgrade the hard drives and memory since the initial build, and basically then forget about it until something great comes out, like PCI-e 4.0 (which just came out) and DDR5. I'm not so sure we need DDR5, though. Alder Lake is suppose to support DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Thunderbolt 4 (compliant with USB4) and looking at the release date, it comes out Oct 25 of this year.

My birthday is in February, so maybe I'll treat myself then to a new computer, unless I see some good Black Friday/Christmas deals. We'll see.

I also dropped around $260 upgrading my RAM about 8 months ago to 64GB. I would hate to even guess how much that would cost with DDR5, I might've spent around $500 on 16 GB of DDR4 RAM in 2014 when it came out, but I forgot the exact figure. It's crazy it took this long for games/sims to be released that'll utilize over 16GB RAM.

But who knows, I think Microsoft is getting a ton of flack for the TPM 2.0 requirement. I wonder if they'll consider dropping it or making it optional. I'm not sure how that would all work out.

[PocketDemon]

Angstromboli wrote:
So apparently Windows 11 will require a TPM 2.0 module. Is it true X99 and therefore the Rampage V extreme doesn't support this at all?

Supermicro makes a 20-pin TPM 2.0 module: https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/accessories/addon/AOM-TPM-9665V.php

But from my searching it looks like the R5E only supports TPM/FW3.19 which is 1.2, not TPM-L R2.0 which is TPM 2.0?

On the other hand I've seen reviews on Amazon for TPM 2.0 chips where people specifically mention using them on X99 motherboards, so maybe it's down to the motherboard itself. From my understanding, TPM 2.0 is not backwards compatible with TPM 1.2.

EDIT: I decided to just take one for the team and buy one just to see. Specifically I got the "SuperMicro AOM-TPM-9665V-C" (V for vertical orientation and C for client, as opposed to server). It probably won't work but whatever. I'll post an update when it arrives. Should be here within a few days, I got the faster shipping.

EDIT2: So the TPM 2.0 module actually worked (model number above). Screenshots in this post below of BIOS and TPM.msc menu: https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?124610-Rampage-V-Extreme-Not-TPM-2-0-Compatible-(Windows-1...

I'm running the original Rampage V Extreme. You literally just plug it into the slot and it showed up in the bios as shown, and Windows accepted it, zero configuration required, didn't even have to enable it.

EDIT3: To be clear, even though the TPM 2.0 module works with the motherboard, the PC Health Check app still says my computer is NOT compatible with Windows 11 because the processor isn't supported. It's a 5960x.

I found this info over the weekend when i was looking for options (actually for a X99 Deluxe U3.1 but the same issue & 20 pin TPM needed) - & have had a bit of a chat with SuperMicro.

Anyway, since these X99 boards can take both Core & Xeon chips, what they've told me today is that -

For Intel Core CPUs and Intel Xeon E3 CPUs, you may AOM-TPM-9665V-C...

...whilst for Intel Xeon E5/E7 CPU, you may use AOM-TPM-9665V-S.


Yeah, as I was really grateful for the info in the OP then it would have been churlish not to share...

...& Lambda-Tek in the UK have them both listed to order for ~£30 a piece, with a ~14 day lead time -

- https://www.lambda-tek.com/Supermicro-AOM-TPM-9665V-S~sh/B5113183

- https://www.lambda-tek.com/Supermicro-AOM-TPM-9665V-C~sh/B5113184

[madmarc69]

Today I installed the Supermicro AOM-TPM-9665V-C on my Asus Rampage V Extreme with Bios 4101 and Intel i7 6950x.

It works fine. The modul ist listet in Bios and in Windows 10 as an TMP2.0 Modul.

The tool "WhyNotWin11 v2.3.01" says my PC is TMP compatible with Windows 11.

[JOSHSKORN]

madmarc69 wrote:
Today I installed the Supermicro AOM-TPM-9665V-C on my Asus Rampage V Extreme with Bios 4101 and Intel i7 6950x.

It works fine. The modul ist listet in Bios and in Windows 10 as an TMP2.0 Modul.

The tool "WhyNotWin11 v2.3.01" says my PC is TMP compatible with Windows 11.

Have you tried PC Health Check from Microsoft? That's what the OP did with the module he bought and it said even with it, his system isn't compatible.

[omarfelix]

bypass the tpm and installed win11
i installed win11 on a 10 year old laptop hp touchsmart tm2 i5
and AOM-TPM-9665V-C isn't cheap on ebay.fr