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Rampage V Extreme - Not TPM 2.0 Compatible? (Windows 11)

Angstromboli
Level 9
So apparently Windows 11 will require a TPM 2.0 module. Is it true X99 and therefore the Rampage V extreme doesn't support this at all?

Supermicro makes a 20-pin TPM 2.0 module: https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/accessories/addon/AOM-TPM-9665V.php

But from my searching it looks like the R5E only supports TPM/FW3.19 which is 1.2, not TPM-L R2.0 which is TPM 2.0?

On the other hand I've seen reviews on Amazon for TPM 2.0 chips where people specifically mention using them on X99 motherboards, so maybe it's down to the motherboard itself. From my understanding, TPM 2.0 is not backwards compatible with TPM 1.2.

EDIT: I decided to just take one for the team and buy one just to see. Specifically I got the "SuperMicro AOM-TPM-9665V-C" (V for vertical orientation and C for client, as opposed to server). It probably won't work but whatever. I'll post an update when it arrives. Should be here within a few days, I got the faster shipping.

EDIT2: So the TPM 2.0 module actually worked (model number above). Screenshots in this post below of BIOS and TPM.msc menu: https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?124610-Rampage-V-Extreme-Not-TPM-2-0-Compatible-(Windows-1...

I'm running the original Rampage V Extreme. You literally just plug it into the slot and it showed up in the bios as shown, and Windows accepted it, zero configuration required, didn't even have to enable it.

EDIT3: To be clear, even though the TPM 2.0 module works with the motherboard, the PC Health Check app still says my computer is NOT compatible with Windows 11 because the processor isn't supported. It's a 5960x.
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Came straight here after using the health tool on windows lol. So we really need to add a TPM chip on R5E or is there any other work around?

Will be great if guys can attach the link from were the chip was purchased. I looked for the asus version its sold on almost all site

jagan2003 wrote:
Came straight here after using the health tool on windows lol. So we really need to add a TPM chip on R5E or is there any other work around?

Will be great if guys can attach the link from were the chip was purchased. I looked for the asus version its sold on almost all site


I sent a PM to the OP, he sent me the link, but it was sold out from that particular manufacturer. I feel like Reddit might be the best source of information, rather than these forums, I just need to find a suitable subreddit.

Regardless, this (TPM 2.0 module shortages) just might end up possibly being far worse than the RTX 3000 series or XBOX Series X shortages. We know what happened there...price gouging on eBay and through other sellers, as well.

To be clear on what I'm seeing so far on this thread, the OP purchased a TPM module, installed it, switched it on in the BIOS and verified that Windows 10 sees it. My previous reply is asking if he had run PC Health Check as of yet, which should tell you if you're basically Windows 11 ready. That said, I'm not convinced that a TPM 2.0 module will completely fix the issue for us, as I don't think there are any Haswell CPUs on the Windows 11 compatibility list. I wouldn't know about Broadwell, offhand, which I think is also supported with the R5E, but I could be wrong.

Another comment by another user was made on this thread that it can be switched on, enabling compatibility for Windows 11. However, I'm not convinced that the user has the Rampage V Extreme. He mentioned R6EE, which I think is ROG Rampage VI Extreme Encore, not X99, but X299 I think.

Thank you for a detailed post. Yes I feel the same this will go the way like Xbox PS5 stock issues scalpers will stockpile this module to sell it for 4x the price

Microsoft will go ahead one step and introduce a software patch to make these modules redundant if they want to nerf it with a cpu requirement. Not easy for large business to ask employees to dump the old laptops for a shiny new one just for a OS upgrade

Backlash from the community going to the horrible when this launches hopefully they change the policy which is totally stupid in my opinion

JOSHSKORN wrote:
I sent a PM to the OP, he sent me the link, but it was sold out from that particular manufacturer. I feel like Reddit might be the best source of information, rather than these forums, I just need to find a suitable subreddit.

Regardless, this (TPM 2.0 module shortages) just might end up possibly being far worse than the RTX 3000 series or XBOX Series X shortages. We know what happened there...price gouging on eBay and through other sellers, as well.

To be clear on what I'm seeing so far on this thread, the OP purchased a TPM module, installed it, switched it on in the BIOS and verified that Windows 10 sees it. My previous reply is asking if he had run PC Health Check as of yet, which should tell you if you're basically Windows 11 ready. That said, I'm not convinced that a TPM 2.0 module will completely fix the issue for us, as I don't think there are any Haswell CPUs on the Windows 11 compatibility list. I wouldn't know about Broadwell, offhand, which I think is also supported with the R5E, but I could be wrong.

Another comment by another user was made on this thread that it can be switched on, enabling compatibility for Windows 11. However, I'm not convinced that the user has the Rampage V Extreme. He mentioned R6EE, which I think is ROG Rampage VI Extreme Encore, not X99, but X299 I think.

I have a ROG 390-E motherboard and I just learned about this today. I purchased this board about 10 months ago, so I should be okay right? I did look in the BOIS and didn't find ANYTHING that states "Trusted Computing". My BOIS is uptodate as well.
Thanks
Dan

timlab wrote:
I have a ROG 390-E motherboard and I just learned about this today. I purchased this board about 10 months ago, so I should be okay right? I did look in the BOIS and didn't find ANYTHING that states "Trusted Computing". My BOIS is uptodate as well.
Thanks
Dan


Refer to "1.6.6 PCH-FW Configuration" in your mobo user manual.
"Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes." -- Unknown

timlab wrote:
I have a ROG 390-E motherboard and I just learned about this today. I purchased this board about 10 months ago, so I should be okay right? I did look in the BOIS and didn't find ANYTHING that states "Trusted Computing". My BOIS is uptodate as well.
Thanks
Dan


I think you're in the wrong Subforum for your motherboard. I looked it up for you, but in what appears to be the correct forum, there is a thread that was moved. Click here. From that link, I'm guessing you take these steps in the BIOS:
TPM 2.0

Intel

Advanced tab > PCH-FW Configuration > TPM Device Selection : Firmware TPM
or
Advanced tab > PTT Configuration > PTT : Enabled

I strongly advise you to just look at the link and not perform just those steps. I think you might have to do a couple of other things, as well.

Hopefully, that helps you find it.

I have Rampage VI Extreme Encore, in BIOS go to Advanced>PCH-FW Configuration>PTT Configuration>PTT Enable. Boot and install all updates if you are a Windows Insider DEV Channel Windows 11 will download and install. If not a Insider yet run all updates, in Windows Update click on Windows Insider Program and sign up click on DEV Channel, computer will reboot, go back in Windows Update and you will see Windows 11 update downloading. So far used Win 11 all day and no issues or crashes yet.


Just curious, have you verified that this will work for Windows 11? Have you run the PC Health Check? I'm thinking that would be the icing on the cake if it checks out says you're compatible with Windows 11.

In company we have 20 Asus Rampage V Extreme with the i76950x all of this hardwar is not guilty for w11 . And this for an software devloper company the end.

Angstromboli
Level 9
To be clear, the "PC Health Check" app still says "This PC can't run Windows 11" even with the TPM 2.0, saying "the processor isn't supported for Windows 11."

Like I touched on before, any CPU using the Rampage V Extreme is probably not compatible with Windows 11 anyway (according to the current requirements).

Angstromboli wrote:
To be clear, the "PC Health Check" app still says "This PC can't run Windows 11" even with the TPM 2.0, saying "the processor isn't supported for Windows 11."

Like I touched on before, any CPU using the Rampage V Extreme is probably not compatible with Windows 11 anyway (according to the current requirements).


I saw your edit on the OP just now. Thank you for that, and thank you for taking one for the team and experimenting with the TPM 2.0 module.

I wonder what it is about the CPU that makes it not supported for Windows 11. That is, I'm wondering if there's a physical difference in the CPU, having to do with TPM 2.0, or if it's a matter of a BIOS update. If that's the case, I'm wondering if a BIOS can be custom built for us, much like people did when they patched updated Microcode to their BIOS for Spectre/Meltdown. I'll see if I can look into it. I'm not giving up hope just yet, but I'll let others kill their PCs first with faulty BIOS updates, first. We still have a few months, anyway.

EDIT: I also just read that Haswell isn't officially supported by Windows 10 21H1, something about "soft blocks", which I don't understand. This article is also going on to say that Windows 11 may run, it just won't officially support our CPUs. Source

Edit #2: People might be finding ways around it, possibly "Virtual TPM" or other methods. Just look into this thread on the ElevenForum.