5820K Overclock settings look right?

[smokeintheeye]

Hello hope yous can all help me out a bit. iv spent most of the day overclocking my 5820-k to 4.6Ghz. Just want to know if my settings look ok for 4.6ghz for 24/7 use. plus i want to know what settings i need to make, so that the CPU VCore will drop back down to 0.0000 Vcore when the pc is not doing anything from 1.2650

Bios - 1902 (stock)
OS - Windows 10 Pro 64bit
MoBo - Rampage V Extreme 3.1vr
CPU - I7 5820-k
RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX 4x8GB - 32GB - 2133MHZ -CMK32GX4M4A2133C13
PSU - 1000W Corsair HX1000i High Performance 80+ Platinum Digital Power Supply
GPU - MSI R9-290 Gaming - OC 1100/1375

Bios Setting so far......

AI Overclock Tuner. = Manual.

CPU Strap.= 100MHZ.

Source Clock Tuner. = Auto.

PLL Selection. = Auto.

Filter PLL. = Auto.

BCLK Frequency. = 100.0.

Initial BCLK Frequency. = Auto.

ASUS MultiCore Enhancement. = Auto. (what is this best set to?)

CPU Core Ratio. = Sync all Cores.

Cpu Ratio Limit. = Cores 1 to 6 = 46.

Min. CPU Cashe Ratio. = Auto. (will this be better set to 46?)

Max. CPU Cashe Ratio. = 46.

Internal PPL Overvoltage. = Auto.

BCLK Frequency : DRAM Frequency Ratio. = Auto.

DRAM Frequency. = DDR4-2133MHz

Xtreme Tweaking. = Enabled.

CPU Level Up. = Auto. ( How dose this work and whats it best set to? )

EPU Power Saving Mode. = Disabled.


DRAM TIMING CONTROL (keep this short)

Rampage Tweak - Mode 1 ( whats the best mode to use? )

im using 13,15,15,28,T2

everything els is left on Auto.



EXTREME TWEAKER\EXTERNAL DIGI+ POWER CONTROL


CPU Input Boot Voltage. = Auto.

CPU Load-line Calibration. = Level 7.

CPU VRM Switching Frequency. = Manual.

Fixed CPU VRM Switching Frequency(khx). = 500.

CPU Power Phase Control. = Optimized. ( whats the best one to use? )

CPU Power Duty Control. = T.Probe.

CPU Current Capability. = 100%

CPU Power Thermal Control. = 115.

DRAM Current Capability (CHA,CHB). = 100%

DRAM Current Capability (CHC,CHD). = 100%

DRAM Switching Frequency (CHA,CHB). = Manuel.

Fixed DRAM -AB Switching Frequency(KHz). = 800.

DRAM Switching Frequency(CHC,CHD). = Manuel.

Fixed DRAM -CD Switching Frequency(KHz). = 800.

DRAM Power Phase Control(CHA, CHB). = Optimized.

DRAM Power Phase Control(CHC, CHD). = Optimized.


POWER SETTING.


Full Manual Mode. = Enabled.

CPU Core Voltage. = 1.262500 ( dose this look to high for 4.6GHz?)

CPU Cashe Voltage. = 1.35000v ( Dose this look right for a Max cashe of 46? )

CPU System Voltage. = Auto. - but shows 0.848v ( what is this best set to? )

CPU SVID Support. = Disabled. ( whats this best set to? )

CPU Input Voltage. = 1.840 ( is this ok for 4.6 GHz? )

DRAM SVID Support. = Disabled. ( whats this best set to? )

DRAM Voltage(CHA, CHB). = 1.200v

DRAM Voltage(CHC, CHD). = 1.200v

PCH Core Voltage. = Auto. = Shows - 1.050v ( is this ok? )

PCH I/O Voltage. = Auto. = Shows = 1.490v ( is this ok? )

Everything from this point is set to Auto please let me know if there are any setting that need tweaking or the will be better set a bit higher or lower. but id like to know how to get the Vcore to drop when just on the desktop will be a big help.

[Qwinn]

yeah but +x1 more on core multiplier is still better than +x15 on cache.

Agreed. And upping cache will increase heat if nothing else. You want to get core speed as high as possible within temperature limits, and then you only touch cache if you still have some temperature headroom left (say, maxing out in OCCT at 75c). And despite what Raja's guide says, folks have reported degradation at 1.30v+. The consensus seems to be to not go above 1.25v on cache, ever. Even if that's excessively conservative, overclocking cache doesn't improve performance enough to make any risk worth it IMHO. I had some headroom left so I went with a nice tame 3.8Ghz cache on manual 1.1v, and that brings me right up to max 80c temps in OCCT, so I'm happy.

Frankly, 4.6Ghz at anything near 1.28v would be a pipe dream for me, that's the voltage I need for 4.4Ghz stability. 5820k seems a lot easier to overclock than my 5930k, do we know why, given they are both 6 cores?

[smokeintheeye]

right so lets see if iv got this right.

reset bios.
set XMP up restart back to bios
set cpu to 46
turn off all SVID settings
leave cache on auto for now same with cache vcore
set cpu vcore to 1.250
turn VR Fault Management off
so what the best system volt and cpu input volt to start at?
set phase duty control to extreme
phase controls Optimized is good for 4.6ghz that right?
switching frequency stuff on auto

anything im missing from there before i restart to test?

[Qwinn]

I think that all looks good, though honestly if you can even get into windows at 4.6 on 1.25, you've got a hell of chip.

If you are unstable with those settings, first thing I'd do is raise vinput to 1.9, then start raising vcore.

For my chip. 4.4Ghz works great on LLC7, but my attempts at 4.5Ghz worked best on LLC Auto, but never got fully OCCT stable at tolerable voltage/temps.

[smokeintheeye]

right will give it a go back in a bit i hope

[Minsekt]

smokeintheeye wrote:
right lets see if i got this right

reset bios reboot
setup XMP reboot to bios
set cpu to 46
min max cashe on auto for now
Svid settings off
phase duty control to extreme
switching frequency stuff on auto
VR Fault Management off
xtreme tweaking disabled
phase controls Optimized is ok for 4.6?
LLC set to or just left Auto?
cpu vcore 1.250
cashe vcore auto for now
cpu input volt whats this best at to star with?
cpu system agent volt is it best set or left on auto

out im missing?

id try without touching anything else than ive posted first and see how it goes, itll be much easier to get it stable this way. sometimes less is more, just make sure to set your cache max multiplier to 30 and not to auto. that caused problems for me. having it at stock got me way better results than auto, id have to up vvccin if its on auto - you can oc cache once your core is stable like id did, mine is now perfectly fine at 4ghz

one at a time

[Qwinn]

I can't disagree. Try all the other settings at auto first. If it doesn't work at numbers you find acceptable, then you can start tweaking those settings to the alternate settings we've discussed, one at a time.

[smokeintheeye]

right i can get in to window at 4.6ghz at 1.250vcore but realbench said NO lol
so back into the bios iv set Vcore to 1.265v passed 3 runs of realbench
iv set cpu input to 1.9v is this best left there or do i try 1.85?
LLC is set to 7
max cashe 30
min auto
cashe vcore auto but shows about 1.2v so is this best set to 1.2v?
XMP is set up 13.15.15.28 2133 at 1.20v
how do i now make the vcore drop down with the cpu speed (Adaptive voltage) just cant see that setting?
going to see how it dose in 3dmark

[Minsekt]

youll need to disable full manual mode, set it to adaptive. now in offset enter 0.005 and in adaptive enter 1.260 (to get 1.265) but tbh 3 runs of rb benchmark is nothing, let the stresstest run over night. (while on manual mode, you dont want to stresstest with adaptive mode)

as we said before, set llc to auto, why 7? maybe the droop is to much and thats the cause its crashing at 1.25v
you dont need llc or any other settings, its nice to have vdroop but id rather have no vdroop at 1.875v than vdroop from 1.9 to 1.872 or something. but even auto is giving me like -0.020 vdroop

you most likely dont have to up vccin to 1.9 i have mine at auto too and its fine. (1.888)
also make sure your c states is set to auto and inside of windows your power settings is set to balanced (the multiplier wont go down on high performance)

[Qwinn]

Even the RB stress test isn't much. If you're trying to get your 24/7 settings, try OCCT for at least 3 hours... tho personally I'm not happy until it can pass it for 10 hours. I *have* had it fail at over 4 hours a few times. You will probably have to up voltage a bit more to get it 10 hour OCCT stable... but you'll be *really* stable. Besides, you've got plenty of headroom at that voltage setting.

Once you're working with adaptive, btw, run the realbench benchmark at least 5 times consecutively. That'll test your stability during transitions from load to idle voltage and vice versa, something most stress tests that only run at full load don't do.

[smokeintheeye]

so far iv set LLC to auto and cpu input back to auto.
iv upped the Vcore to 1.271v but when running test its using 1.280v max core temp so far is 56c
iv set the XMP to the 2nd one at 2400mhz at 1.35v just to see if it worked.
going to start OCCT see how it dose there.

is there any other volt setting i will be better setting to manual so not to over volt anything when testing for a long time?

PS thanks everyone for the help so far. think iv been over thinking a lot of it.