Question about the X3D laptop.

[Ragnaraz690]

Why doesn't this machine use liquid metal?

I read some rubbish about it being detrimental to the chip or something. Thing is, the none X3D chips use Conductonaut extreme, I have seen several Youtubers delid and use liquid metal on desktop X3D chips with no issues. Considering the CCDs are likely the same ones as the desktop versions, what is so different that this laptop can't use CE?

[Anbby_ROG]

Hi @Ragnaraz690 ,

I would like to confirm if you are discussing the ROG Strix SCAR 17 X3D (2023) G733PYV?
Regarding the G733PYV, it utilizes Thermal Grizzly’s Conductonaut Extreme liquid metal on the GPU. You can find more information on this link provided for your reference. Thank you.

[Ragnaraz690]

I am indeed referring to that laptop, it's the only one with an X3D chip on the market.

Im also asking why it is not on the CPU, which I thought would be obvious by the points in the statement.

Could you enlighten me as to why liquid metal isn't on the CPU?

[Anbby_ROG]

Hi @Ragnaraz690 ,

Regards to the cooling system of the G733PYV, heat dissipation is faster and more efficient with our vapor chamber design and employs Thermal Grizzly's Conductonaut Extreme liquid metal on the GPU. Used exclusively by ROG, this material offers the highest thermal transfer available on a laptop.​

Please understand that this forum only provides general technical support. The specific design principles you are discussing are beyond the scope of our discussion here.

If you have any design-related questions you'd like to discuss, we can assist you in redirecting the discussion to the relevant forum where users interested in that topic can join and provide more in-depth technical advice.

We greatly appreciate your understanding!
 

[Ragnaraz690]

It's not exclusive anymore, I have several tubes of it and have used it in my A15. 

If you can point me to people who can actually answer the question properly I would be most grateful. I have read all the jargon already and none of it actually says why Conductonaut is not used on the CPU.

[Ragnaraz690]

@Anbby_ROG I would like a proper answer to this inquiry please.

[MasterC]

Please refer to the disclaimers at the bottom of the product page:

• ASUS does not use or recommend using liquid metal on the AMD Ryzen 7945HX3D processor because liquid metal may react with the backside metallization layer of the processor, causing performance degradation over time.

[Ragnaraz690]

Normally I would accept this, but what is so different about the X3D chip on the backside compared to the standard X chips?