04-01-2023 06:01 PM
I want Asus officials to support this issue. I want to upgrade ROG Strix G18 (2023) RAM to 5600 mhz. Please do a bios update for it. Other brands allow up to 6000 MHz.
05-24-2023 02:35 AM
Hi,
At least, the model advertised works at 5600MHz !
With BIOS 309 it didn't, but I didn't force memory training so it was probably my fault. So after updating to BIOS 312, my SCAR 16 did the memory training and now... VOILA 😀
My model is: 2 * Samsung 16G: M425R2GA3BB0-CWM
05-24-2023 02:46 AM
Haizz, Asus confirmed earlier that 16GB 5600Mhz is supported, the problem now is 1x32GB 5600Mhz, it depends on the model, I'm using Samsung 2x32GB 5600Mhz but still running 4800mhz 😞 waiting for ASUS to release a new bios
05-25-2023 10:01 PM
Beautiful! That’s exactly what I was looking for! Thanks! 👍🏻
06-05-2023 05:50 PM
I bought the same kit from Kingston, and my Asus G18 won’t even train the new 5600 ram. I get stuck in the boot cycle. If I put the Kingston 4800 back in, it’s recognized in less than two minutes and boot up occurs successfully. I’m on BIOS 312 as well. Any thoughts or tips?
06-05-2023 09:42 PM
Hi jrnewhouse,
one page earlier Flo posted a possible solution for this. I didn't test it by myself, cause there was no need for in my case but it could help.
I'm not pretty sure what you mean when you are talking about "stuck into boot cycle". If you install the new RAM and start up the system for the first time, it will light up the keyboard and it seems to do nothing ( blank screen, no reactions from the keyboard, no lightning )... Don't interrupt this sequence ! This is the moment where the RAM timings are trained. This sequence can durate a few moments and it's possible that the system will automatically start this sequence a few times. After all work is done and the correct timings are found, the system should start normally and boot up into Windows...
To keep the failure as low as possible, you can load setup defaults in BIOS before you install the RAM and get a normal powerstate ( in case of undervolting your system - if it doesn't do it automatically by setting the system to it's default settings ).
An other possible hint to do a hardreset ( which didn't worked for me so far ) is to be found on the ASUS Mainpage where it says: you should leave your powerplug in and press the power button for 40 seconds ( it's a good indicator when the battery light will go off ). After you release the power button, the system will now automatically reset and restart from itself and should start a new training sequence. But like I told you before, I had no success with this procedure and I stuck into black screen. Leaving my system unplugged for 5-10min replugged it and tried to turn it on again, it luckyly came back to live.
So in my suggestion, you only break off the training sequence to early. Please undo any undervolting settings, set your system to it's defaults BIOS settings, reinstall the new RAM and let the system do it's job. It can take a time ( I think worst case is 3-5min ) and after that, it should boot up and run with the new settings. If you get into BitLocker screen ( but I don't think so ), just restart your machine and get your old BIOS configuration / settings redone, and be happy.
Please keep us informed which solution worked for you.
06-05-2023 10:14 PM
Update: When I originally tried the 5600 RAM, I let it go through the training cycle uninterrupted for 30 full minutes and the laptop still didn’t boot. Then I tried one stick in the bottom slot by itself, and the laptop recognized it and booted normally. Likewise, I tried the other stick in the top slot by itself, and, again, it was recognized and normal booting followed. When I put both sticks in together, the laptop gets stuck in the training cycle and doesn’t boot. I do have an 80mV undervolt set in the BIOS, so I’ll remove that and try some of the other things you suggested. I’ll definitely report back. Thanks!
06-06-2023 03:35 AM
Oh o.k. 30min waiting for training isn't normal and very patient from you. This is much too long for a simple training sequence. As the both sticks are running in single mode, did they both work in the expected speed of 5600MT/s ? Not that you mixed up the 4800 and 5600 modules for any reason 🤔 But if so, I guess they normaly should run together only in 4800 mode for the slowest module in the system... This is slightly confusing to me.
Undervolting the system to -80mV is maxed out in the latest BIOS versions. In the earlier versions it was only allowed to reduce voltage by -30mV. Up to this, I tried different settings with different benchmarks and figured out, the sweetspot of mine is -60mV. Lowering the voltage more depends in lower speeds with no more noise or heating reduction and raising up the voltage to "normal" settings 0mV it only gets a bit warmer but not realy faster. On your system it could be slightly different in case of the "silicon lottery" of the CPUs and production process of the laptops.
Hopefully the undervolting is responsible for your training issue and you can run your modules like expected. Otherwise I have no more ideas on that. Sounds to me, you did everything right at this moment.
06-06-2023 05:15 PM
Hallelujah! With one of the 5600 sticks in I booted into BIOS and disabled the undervolt and Fast Boot. Then, I put the other 5600 stick in and pressed the power button. In less than a minute, the laptop booted up normally and both sticks are recognized and running at 5600! Thank you so much for your responses and your help!
06-06-2023 06:44 PM - edited 06-06-2023 06:45 PM
I'm glad to hear that from you and thanks for your response 👍
Now as the system works as expected, I think you can slowly get back to your earlier BIOS settings step by step. If these are the only two settings you changed, I would first enable fast boot again. After this option works fine ( as I would expect ), you can go over to the undervolting setting and start with a moderate option of -10mV. Start up the system, check out your speed in some benchmarks, have a look at the temps and the noise that it makes, and how it feels to work with. In my case I tried out some runs in Prime95 ( RAM check and load ) and CinebenchR23 ( CPU performance ) and always watched the temps and speed in HWInfo within these benchmarks. After you get all the numbers you can go back to the BIOS and try the next step in undervolting ( -20mV ). The numbers should come realy close to that once before ( but slightly lower temps ). If you came to the point where the system decrease a slightly bigger step in performance ( for example in CinebenchR23 ) or didn't feel as smooth as you start your system before, you maxed out your personal undervolting limit. In my personal case that was the step when I went from -60mV to -70mV. The system startup feels like a 8 cylinder engine which is only running on 6 cylinders and this response also in lower benchmark results in CinebenchR23. That was the point where I decided I've gone to far in my limits and go back to -60mV 😉
Yes, it's a nerving and durable process in finetuning your laptop, but if you figured it out once, you can get the maximum out of your machine.
Note: This is the way I did it for my laptop ! It doesn't mean, that it works on your machine also ! Undervolting is an possible option, but I think it's not recommended by the manufaturer to run it like that 😉
At least I would like to thank all the people in here responding and keep the thread updated. I think that's the main idea of a forum to search for some problems and get some answers or suggestions from other users yourselve didn't think about 👍 Like in your way, we get the next system running at full performance and that makes me also happy.