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[GL702VM & similar] Solution to Performance issues / Overheating / Throttling / Whine

onjax
Level 9
Hi guys, I bought GL702VM and was upset with its ability to handle games and high load. I had immediate temperature jump to over 85 jump and throttling / frame drops in games. So I decided to understand how to improve things, even though, I already lost my warranty due to my experiments, but at least I can answer for everyone, that:
- the main problem of this notebook is inefficient, insufficient cooling system with too thin fans, too small heatsinks, vent holes in a wrong places (aside, not above the fans).

To prove this, I first changed the thermal interface to liquid metal. That doesn't solve the issue. This proves, the thermal contact is ok, but heat dissipation is bad. Second, I ran stress tests with back cover removed - helped a lot, about 15-20 degrees off. The proves that air intake is wrong in this system.

I also removed an antidust tape with holes covering all the intake holes. That helped by around 5 degrees and also brought down air noise.

Then I came to idea of downvolting CPU and GPU, thanks to devs of ThrottleStop and MSI Afterburner, we can do this with relative ease.

The result: Fan noise reduced by half. Temp drop is huge. More speed due to ability of CPU/GPU to properly boost to max speed.

For your information - CPU is responsible for about 30% of heat, GPU - for 70%. So best idea is to undervolt the GPU, but for best results go for both.

THE GUIDE - CPU
Variant A - Install Intel Xtreme Tuning Utility

  • Go to Advanced Tuning tab and Change Dynamic CPU Voltage Offset to negative value (move slider to the left). -100mV is a good starting point. Leave Mode to Adaptive.
  • Apply changes.

My CPU holds -150mV well.

Variant B - Install Throttle Stop 8.3 or above

  • On main window click FIVR button
  • Under CPU Core Voltage move Offset Voltage slider to the left. -100mV is a good starting point. The lower value the less heat.
  • Click Apply. On the same window you can save settings to make them apply every time you start the app.


THE GUIDE - GPU

  • Download and Install MSI Afterburner 4.3 or above
  • In settings turn on Unlock voltage control and Unlock voltage monitoring
  • Close MSI Afterburner
  • Download my Voltage Profile for GTX 1060
  • Extract profile to some folder and then copy file to "C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\Profiles". Click continue as Administrator when Windows asks permission to write.
  • Run MSI Afterburner, click on profile 1 (out of 5). Then press Ctrl+F. (1 - least heat, but may be unstable for some... 2, bit more voltage etc till 5.)
  • You will see my Voltage Curve (screenshot). What you'll see that it's flat until 1050mv. that means. 1050 will never be used, so will never be used any voltage except 831mV @ 1860 MHz and below.
  • Click apply to test this curve
  • If this curve is not stable for you - edit it to your taste: Click on 831mV dot and move it lower, so that lower freq will be used for that voltage, and for 1860 freq next available voltage will be used. Etc. Work with leftmost voltage dots to make everything stable.


This curve drops heat of GPU by at least 30%, which is huge.

THE GUIDE - COIL WHINE
Workaround described here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/975530

Perform only these steps as Administrator:
1. At a command prompt, run the following command:
reg add HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Processor /v Capabilities /t REG_DWORD /d 0x0007e066
2. Restart the computer.
3. Run ThrottleStop v8.3 or above and uncheck C1E. Click save.

In theory, it will make CPU a bit hotter while system is idle, because it disables some advanced C-states, but i didn't notice that in monitoring app.
That solved like 99.9% of the noise, and in addition, disabling C1E in ThrottleStop solved noise issue completely.
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pppttl wrote:
On other forums they say it's fine under 90, but it's depressing, I agree. You can use some tweaks to lower your temps:

1. Cut holes under the vents on the bottom cover. (this voids warranty, however you can order backplate replacements)
2. Update your bios (this makes a very significant difference)
3. Undervolt your cpu & gpu
4. Turn off Intel turbo boost when gaming
5. Use a decent notebook cooler (e. g. CM Notepal U3 Plus)

These tweaks are listed in order of impact on lowering the temperatures.

I use/applied 2-5. tweaks and was able to keep my temps under 80, usually in the mid 70's.

On the warranty: I think it depends on the country or the store you bought in, mine has 2 years. I think it should last at least 2 years with high temperatures but if you want to prolong it's life you can use these tweaks.


Hi , if I only apply 2,3 and 4 (don't want to use notebook cooler or cut holes ) can I get decent temps on recent games ?

eliwood_next wrote:
Hi , if I only apply 2,3 and 4 (don't want to use notebook cooler or cut holes ) can I get decent temps on recent games ?



Depends on what you consider decent. 😄 Laptop cooler helps, but it is not necessary.
GL702VM

by decent i mean around 80 °C in big cpu games like pubg.

btw , forcin fans to 100% is helping too no ?

eliwood_next wrote:
by decent i mean around 80 °C in big cpu games like pubg.

btw , forcin fans to 100% is helping too no ?


As I said, with these tweaks + a laptop cooler I am getting temps just below 80 degrees.

I made tests whether ramping up fan speed makes a difference, and I found out that it isn't.
GL702VM

eliwood_next wrote:
by decent i mean around 80 °C in big cpu games like pubg.

btw , forcin fans to 100% is helping too no ?

With -0.150mv on CPU, 99% max processor state, a cooler master notepal x-slim cooling pad and two Opolar LC06s my GL702VMK CPU sits at 65C while the GPU gets up around 72C in PUBG. I find most demanding games I play keep my temperatures within this range with this setup.

This is also with the latest BIOS 303 released today. The system idles around 34C with both Opolars set on 2.

StarJack

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StarJack wrote:
With -0.150mv on CPU, 99% max processor state, a cooler master notepal x-slim cooling pad and two Opolar LC06s my GL702VMK CPU sits at 65C while the GPU gets up around 72C in PUBG. I find most demanding games I play keep my temperatures within this range with this setup.

This is also with the latest BIOS 303 released today. The system idles around 34C with both Opolars set on 2.

StarJack

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I have the exact same model and I was wondering how PUBG would perform on it. I was afraid that if even a game like overwatch would give me hi temps, pubg would be impossible.

What fps do you get on what settings if I may ask? Also, what temp do you think you'd get if only using the cooler master notepal? I don't really like those opolar fans for some reason.

I've undervolted the cpu with bout .120mv and put max power at 99%. Have noticed some gains but still runs hotter than i'd like.

Cheers

pppttl wrote:
On other forums they say it's fine under 90, but it's depressing, I agree. You can use some tweaks to lower your temps:

1. Cut holes under the vents on the bottom cover. (this voids warranty, however you can order backplate replacements)
2. Update your bios (this makes a very significant difference)
3. Undervolt your cpu & gpu
4. Turn off Intel turbo boost when gaming
5. Use a decent notebook cooler (e. g. CM Notepal U3 Plus)

These tweaks are listed in order of impact on lowering the temperatures.

I use/applied 2-5. tweaks and was able to keep my temps under 80, usually in the mid 70's.

On the warranty: I think it depends on the country or the store you bought in, mine has 2 years. I think it should last at least 2 years with high temperatures but if you want to prolong it's life you can use these tweaks.


if after 2 years the laptop is still fine, ill start cutting holes. For now, i'd like my warranty.

Good to hear you had great gains in coolness with 2-5. Im really not interested in buying a notebook cooler for now. Maybe someone can sell me the product? How many degrees does it take off your processors? with vs without cooler? Also, how and for how much do you undervolt the gpu. Ive heard people say that it isnt worth it, you lose reletaively much fraps for the decrease in temp. Im very impressed to see you keep dem temps below 80. After undervolting the cpu im at around 85c 86c which already really feels bad, but much better than the 91c of before!

Juicefulll wrote:
if after 2 years the laptop is still fine, ill start cutting holes. For now, i'd like my warranty.

Good to hear you had great gains in coolness with 2-5. Im really not interested in buying a notebook cooler for now. Maybe someone can sell me the product? How many degrees does it take off your processors? with vs without cooler? Also, how and for how much do you undervolt the gpu. Ive heard people say that it isnt worth it, you lose reletaively much fraps for the decrease in temp. Im very impressed to see you keep dem temps below 80. After undervolting the cpu im at around 85c 86c which already really feels bad, but much better than the 91c of before!


I made some testing and found out that uv meant 1-3 fps difference compared to stock, so it's definitely worth it.
GL702VM

StarJack
Level 11
I think the LC06 should fit the GL702VS, it fits the GL702VMK ok, except the lid obstructs the vents a bit. Still drops my temperatures impressively.

StarJack

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Thanks StarJack, i was thinking that you had just about the same lid on yours than it is on mine, i just wanted to make sure, you were the one that won me over in the first place with opolar when i saw the perf you were getting with it.