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[GL702VM & similar] Solution to Performance issues / Overheating / Throttling / Whine

onjax
Level 9
Hi guys, I bought GL702VM and was upset with its ability to handle games and high load. I had immediate temperature jump to over 85 jump and throttling / frame drops in games. So I decided to understand how to improve things, even though, I already lost my warranty due to my experiments, but at least I can answer for everyone, that:
- the main problem of this notebook is inefficient, insufficient cooling system with too thin fans, too small heatsinks, vent holes in a wrong places (aside, not above the fans).

To prove this, I first changed the thermal interface to liquid metal. That doesn't solve the issue. This proves, the thermal contact is ok, but heat dissipation is bad. Second, I ran stress tests with back cover removed - helped a lot, about 15-20 degrees off. The proves that air intake is wrong in this system.

I also removed an antidust tape with holes covering all the intake holes. That helped by around 5 degrees and also brought down air noise.

Then I came to idea of downvolting CPU and GPU, thanks to devs of ThrottleStop and MSI Afterburner, we can do this with relative ease.

The result: Fan noise reduced by half. Temp drop is huge. More speed due to ability of CPU/GPU to properly boost to max speed.

For your information - CPU is responsible for about 30% of heat, GPU - for 70%. So best idea is to undervolt the GPU, but for best results go for both.

THE GUIDE - CPU
Variant A - Install Intel Xtreme Tuning Utility

  • Go to Advanced Tuning tab and Change Dynamic CPU Voltage Offset to negative value (move slider to the left). -100mV is a good starting point. Leave Mode to Adaptive.
  • Apply changes.

My CPU holds -150mV well.

Variant B - Install Throttle Stop 8.3 or above

  • On main window click FIVR button
  • Under CPU Core Voltage move Offset Voltage slider to the left. -100mV is a good starting point. The lower value the less heat.
  • Click Apply. On the same window you can save settings to make them apply every time you start the app.


THE GUIDE - GPU

  • Download and Install MSI Afterburner 4.3 or above
  • In settings turn on Unlock voltage control and Unlock voltage monitoring
  • Close MSI Afterburner
  • Download my Voltage Profile for GTX 1060
  • Extract profile to some folder and then copy file to "C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\Profiles". Click continue as Administrator when Windows asks permission to write.
  • Run MSI Afterburner, click on profile 1 (out of 5). Then press Ctrl+F. (1 - least heat, but may be unstable for some... 2, bit more voltage etc till 5.)
  • You will see my Voltage Curve (screenshot). What you'll see that it's flat until 1050mv. that means. 1050 will never be used, so will never be used any voltage except 831mV @ 1860 MHz and below.
  • Click apply to test this curve
  • If this curve is not stable for you - edit it to your taste: Click on 831mV dot and move it lower, so that lower freq will be used for that voltage, and for 1860 freq next available voltage will be used. Etc. Work with leftmost voltage dots to make everything stable.


This curve drops heat of GPU by at least 30%, which is huge.

THE GUIDE - COIL WHINE
Workaround described here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/975530

Perform only these steps as Administrator:
1. At a command prompt, run the following command:
reg add HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Processor /v Capabilities /t REG_DWORD /d 0x0007e066
2. Restart the computer.
3. Run ThrottleStop v8.3 or above and uncheck C1E. Click save.

In theory, it will make CPU a bit hotter while system is idle, because it disables some advanced C-states, but i didn't notice that in monitoring app.
That solved like 99.9% of the noise, and in addition, disabling C1E in ThrottleStop solved noise issue completely.
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I finally repaste my GL502VS with MX4, not noticeable heat drop, maybe 3-4º and, in adition, drill the bottom case (8 holes in each side)
I use an old classic drill (not dremell or precission) so the result is not very beautiful, i prefer not upload a image, but it helps like additional 7-9 degress, and a base cooler helps another little, so my computer , undervolted, repasted and drilled, now seems not to exceed 76º .
.. but i still having issues with this cra..mputer, seems battery, what will be the next?

Can someone update the original post? It is approaching two years old. Either that or maybe it is time for a new thread?

So I have a GL703GS-DS74, actually I am on my third one and it is completely useless as a "gaming" platform, I cannot play more than 10-20 minutes without a BSOD. I am assuming it is heat related after reading the horror stories here.

Can someone post up-to-date information in a sticky-thread?

Then again maybe I should just give up and throw the finger to Asus and buy another brand. I've been buying motherboards from Asus since around 1996, have always loved their engineering and for that reason bought this laptop, what a total joke! I think a class-action lawsuit is in order.

link626 wrote:
The ultimate solution to your overheating problems. Get a big fan...

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A big ass box fan probably would make a difference. 😄

BTW, that picture of the laptop on the fan is super confusing though. Looks like the keyboard is wrapped in plastic? And I see cardboard too? WTH? So confused, lol!

willygermo
Level 7
could anybody share the template (to print) my holes? it was a template a few post before, but there is´t. Thaks!

willygermo
Level 7
Tomorrow I will do the holes. Now, i´m playing to dirt 4 (2k ultra), without cover, and cooler, it´s about 64º (max 68º). msi afterbuner and intel extreme utility on.

willygermo wrote:
Tomorrow I will do the holes. Now, i´m playing to dirt 4 (2k ultra), without cover, and cooler, it´s about 64º (max 68º). msi afterbuner and intel extreme utility on.





If I may ask, how exactly are you playing without a cover? I mean like how are you protecting the device from the beneath? aren't afraid of anything shorting out or something?
how are you keeping it up?

This is my temp results after cutting some holes, before my CPU was more or less 80C, GPU 80-85c. already did the 99% on power plan settings before and after holes.

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Nightwing113 wrote:
If I may ask, how exactly are you playing without a cover? I mean like how are you protecting the device from the beneath? aren't afraid of anything shorting out or something?
how are you keeping it up?



If you are carefully, you don´t have any problem (it was only 1-2 h). I make some holes, I test it, and i´ve 8º less than before holes (max 74º). But I want to do more holes, because without cover, it was about 12-13º less. I´ve cooler (two, under laptop and GPU) and room is about 28º. I was play to DIRT 4 (2K and ultra-hight)

Nightwing113 wrote:
If I may ask, how exactly are you playing without a cover? I mean like how are you protecting the device from the beneath? aren't afraid of anything shorting out or something?
how are you keeping it up?


It would be more safety if you will connect second monitor.

adeptius wrote:
It would be more safety if you will connect second monitor.


Yes, I do it.