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[GL702VM & similar] Solution to Performance issues / Overheating / Throttling / Whine

onjax
Level 9
Hi guys, I bought GL702VM and was upset with its ability to handle games and high load. I had immediate temperature jump to over 85 jump and throttling / frame drops in games. So I decided to understand how to improve things, even though, I already lost my warranty due to my experiments, but at least I can answer for everyone, that:
- the main problem of this notebook is inefficient, insufficient cooling system with too thin fans, too small heatsinks, vent holes in a wrong places (aside, not above the fans).

To prove this, I first changed the thermal interface to liquid metal. That doesn't solve the issue. This proves, the thermal contact is ok, but heat dissipation is bad. Second, I ran stress tests with back cover removed - helped a lot, about 15-20 degrees off. The proves that air intake is wrong in this system.

I also removed an antidust tape with holes covering all the intake holes. That helped by around 5 degrees and also brought down air noise.

Then I came to idea of downvolting CPU and GPU, thanks to devs of ThrottleStop and MSI Afterburner, we can do this with relative ease.

The result: Fan noise reduced by half. Temp drop is huge. More speed due to ability of CPU/GPU to properly boost to max speed.

For your information - CPU is responsible for about 30% of heat, GPU - for 70%. So best idea is to undervolt the GPU, but for best results go for both.

THE GUIDE - CPU
Variant A - Install Intel Xtreme Tuning Utility

  • Go to Advanced Tuning tab and Change Dynamic CPU Voltage Offset to negative value (move slider to the left). -100mV is a good starting point. Leave Mode to Adaptive.
  • Apply changes.

My CPU holds -150mV well.

Variant B - Install Throttle Stop 8.3 or above

  • On main window click FIVR button
  • Under CPU Core Voltage move Offset Voltage slider to the left. -100mV is a good starting point. The lower value the less heat.
  • Click Apply. On the same window you can save settings to make them apply every time you start the app.


THE GUIDE - GPU

  • Download and Install MSI Afterburner 4.3 or above
  • In settings turn on Unlock voltage control and Unlock voltage monitoring
  • Close MSI Afterburner
  • Download my Voltage Profile for GTX 1060
  • Extract profile to some folder and then copy file to "C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\Profiles". Click continue as Administrator when Windows asks permission to write.
  • Run MSI Afterburner, click on profile 1 (out of 5). Then press Ctrl+F. (1 - least heat, but may be unstable for some... 2, bit more voltage etc till 5.)
  • You will see my Voltage Curve (screenshot). What you'll see that it's flat until 1050mv. that means. 1050 will never be used, so will never be used any voltage except 831mV @ 1860 MHz and below.
  • Click apply to test this curve
  • If this curve is not stable for you - edit it to your taste: Click on 831mV dot and move it lower, so that lower freq will be used for that voltage, and for 1860 freq next available voltage will be used. Etc. Work with leftmost voltage dots to make everything stable.


This curve drops heat of GPU by at least 30%, which is huge.

THE GUIDE - COIL WHINE
Workaround described here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/975530

Perform only these steps as Administrator:
1. At a command prompt, run the following command:
reg add HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Processor /v Capabilities /t REG_DWORD /d 0x0007e066
2. Restart the computer.
3. Run ThrottleStop v8.3 or above and uncheck C1E. Click save.

In theory, it will make CPU a bit hotter while system is idle, because it disables some advanced C-states, but i didn't notice that in monitoring app.
That solved like 99.9% of the noise, and in addition, disabling C1E in ThrottleStop solved noise issue completely.
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FULLMETALJACKET7 wrote:
I would say those dips are not normal, specially for a non demanding game like CSGO.
Do some testing in some other game and see if it's better now.

Also, I don't know if I already suggested this, but go to nvidia control panel and change the "power management mode" to "prefer maximum performance". Sometimes when you GPU changes power states, it can cause stutters. See this: https://imgur.com/a/GwIokZK


SO here's maximum performance...
I'll do BF4 tomorrow.

Thank you.

l337g0g0 wrote:
SO here's maximum performance...
I'll do BF4 tomorrow.

Thank you.


Still far from perfect. Frametimes are all over the place. I'm running out of ideas really. You said you tried a clean windows install, and it should work perfectly out of the box like that.*

FULLMETALJACKET7 wrote:
Still far from perfect. Frametimes are all over the place. I'm running out of ideas really. You said you tried a clean windows install, and it should work perfectly out of the box like that.*


I can do clean install just to totally get that out of the equation.
I'm busy, so I would need a nice block of time for that, If I do it, I'll do it in the future, I'll report back when I do it.

I have emails going to Nvidia, ASUS, and RealTek.
I'm in communication with them about not only me, but many others experiencing the same issue and frustration.

Thank you, I'll BF4 later today.

SO I was playing CS GO today, some guy asked about everyone's Htz, cause his friend looks like his lagging in game.
Another guy was I **** I got this expensive powerful graphics card and it's acting up.
I asked him "are you throttling?"
He said "I don't know what that is" He said "I'll be playing and the my graphics card would act up all of a sudden"
I told him there is a conflict with RealTek AND Nvidia HD audio drivers conflicting, to not install the Nvidai HD audio drivers from G-force experience.

It's amazing that this problems going on for 6 years now and not resolved, it not an isolated issue, EVERYONE installs RealTek by default to get your computer up, and Almost everyone with an Nvidia card installs G-force experience.

WOW

SO ASUS is talking to there engineers about this problem, and I recommended they make a FAQ for it, so people can remedy it if they experience it and come looking for answers to why there games are throttling.


My good deed for the day.

No real big issues, didn't feel any throttling.
My CPU was hot and the GPU was fine, guess I need to go 99% again.

This M.2 heatsink really performs well if you replace the thermal pad with a good thermal tape (i used 3M thermal tape).
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on my samsung nvme 960 pro standard load(non stress test) on the controller chip (temperature 2 on hwinfo) is around 75C, after installing the heatsink it peaks at 60C. and the nand chip (temperature 1 on hwinfo) never went past 50C.

djbigbear
Level 7
don't you think it's about time you try my suggestions a few pages back?

djbigbear wrote:
don't you think it's about time you try my suggestions a few pages back?


HI djbigbear,

I remember trying everything of yours, but the voltage thingy, only because we eliminated it, with other settings.

or what suggestion am I missing?

Thank you for all your help sir...

Shayne.

binaryLV
Level 8
djbigbear, did you remove the sticker from the SSD? Or did you leave it to keep the warranty?

binaryLV wrote:
djbigbear, did you remove the sticker from the SSD? Or did you leave it to keep the warranty?


nope, i didn't remove the sticker since aftersales policy in my country is messed up.