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[GL702VM & similar] Solution to Performance issues / Overheating / Throttling / Whine

onjax
Level 9
Hi guys, I bought GL702VM and was upset with its ability to handle games and high load. I had immediate temperature jump to over 85 jump and throttling / frame drops in games. So I decided to understand how to improve things, even though, I already lost my warranty due to my experiments, but at least I can answer for everyone, that:
- the main problem of this notebook is inefficient, insufficient cooling system with too thin fans, too small heatsinks, vent holes in a wrong places (aside, not above the fans).

To prove this, I first changed the thermal interface to liquid metal. That doesn't solve the issue. This proves, the thermal contact is ok, but heat dissipation is bad. Second, I ran stress tests with back cover removed - helped a lot, about 15-20 degrees off. The proves that air intake is wrong in this system.

I also removed an antidust tape with holes covering all the intake holes. That helped by around 5 degrees and also brought down air noise.

Then I came to idea of downvolting CPU and GPU, thanks to devs of ThrottleStop and MSI Afterburner, we can do this with relative ease.

The result: Fan noise reduced by half. Temp drop is huge. More speed due to ability of CPU/GPU to properly boost to max speed.

For your information - CPU is responsible for about 30% of heat, GPU - for 70%. So best idea is to undervolt the GPU, but for best results go for both.

THE GUIDE - CPU
Variant A - Install Intel Xtreme Tuning Utility

  • Go to Advanced Tuning tab and Change Dynamic CPU Voltage Offset to negative value (move slider to the left). -100mV is a good starting point. Leave Mode to Adaptive.
  • Apply changes.

My CPU holds -150mV well.

Variant B - Install Throttle Stop 8.3 or above

  • On main window click FIVR button
  • Under CPU Core Voltage move Offset Voltage slider to the left. -100mV is a good starting point. The lower value the less heat.
  • Click Apply. On the same window you can save settings to make them apply every time you start the app.


THE GUIDE - GPU

  • Download and Install MSI Afterburner 4.3 or above
  • In settings turn on Unlock voltage control and Unlock voltage monitoring
  • Close MSI Afterburner
  • Download my Voltage Profile for GTX 1060
  • Extract profile to some folder and then copy file to "C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\Profiles". Click continue as Administrator when Windows asks permission to write.
  • Run MSI Afterburner, click on profile 1 (out of 5). Then press Ctrl+F. (1 - least heat, but may be unstable for some... 2, bit more voltage etc till 5.)
  • You will see my Voltage Curve (screenshot). What you'll see that it's flat until 1050mv. that means. 1050 will never be used, so will never be used any voltage except 831mV @ 1860 MHz and below.
  • Click apply to test this curve
  • If this curve is not stable for you - edit it to your taste: Click on 831mV dot and move it lower, so that lower freq will be used for that voltage, and for 1860 freq next available voltage will be used. Etc. Work with leftmost voltage dots to make everything stable.


This curve drops heat of GPU by at least 30%, which is huge.

THE GUIDE - COIL WHINE
Workaround described here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/975530

Perform only these steps as Administrator:
1. At a command prompt, run the following command:
reg add HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Processor /v Capabilities /t REG_DWORD /d 0x0007e066
2. Restart the computer.
3. Run ThrottleStop v8.3 or above and uncheck C1E. Click save.

In theory, it will make CPU a bit hotter while system is idle, because it disables some advanced C-states, but i didn't notice that in monitoring app.
That solved like 99.9% of the noise, and in addition, disabling C1E in ThrottleStop solved noise issue completely.
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dasBOT wrote:
where did you guys buy bottom case cover for gl702vm? all i could find is aliexpress sorry but not going to pay 75$ to china seller and never receive it.


In germany I bought the bottom case from IPC Computer for 49 Euro.

bagges wrote:
In germany I bought the bottom case from IPC Computer for 49 Euro.


thx m8, could you tell me how big is the temperature drop with modification compared to stock?

Hi folks i have also problems with my GL703VM 7700hq + 1060 gtx


I menaged to get the temps down...first i undervolted gpu to 825mv,then i shut off turbo boost,then i undervolted cpu to -140mv....but after that i also had high temps...
-then i realized that cooling pad blocked with its pattern already small holes on underneath the laptop...
-removed the cooling pad but kept laptop upped 3 cm beyond the table to keep vents free...got 5 degrees smaller temps and full speed vent kicked in at 71 degrees instead of 88 degrees when i had cooler blocking the vents....
-now i removed the bottom housing from laptop and have maximum temp of 75 after 2 hours of gaming call of duty ww2 which is high demanding game.
-Awesome results! I plan to drill holes into my bottom case 😄 Now the question is...It is worth to do the repaste with liquid metal or normal high quality paste for even few more degrees less?

Regards,Marko

dasBOT wrote:
thx m8, could you tell me how big is the temperature drop with modification compared to stock?



https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?89061-GL702VM-amp-similar-Solution-to-Performance-issues-O...

bagges wrote:
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?89061-GL702VM-amp-similar-Solution-to-Performance-issues-O...


you really did a good job with these holes and covers, looks genuine.

dasBOT
Level 7
did anyone try to fit bottom case cover from gl703 to gl702?

Hi, before all sorry my bad english , thats my first message.
Im having thermal issues w my GL502VS too. I undervolt CPU (i7 6700HQ -0,150v)and make a custom voltage for the GTX 1070 in MSI Afterburner( I dont know if thats good enought 900mV@1800). Temps go cooler, but still reach up to 85° both CPU/GPU (vs stock 92° +).
Im thinking in repaste the laptop, but I think liquid metal is too dangerous for me. I has some thermal pads and Artic MX4. Can this improve a little the temps or is useless at all?
I read in this thread that u guys use foil tape to cover the hole between vents and heatsink, but i cant translate if this is normal adhesive or some special tape like aluminium or something...
Another question, my last, drill the bottom case only in fan's place or in hdds & ram ? That help?
Thanks a lot, hope you give me a hand.

Niija wrote:
Hi, before all sorry my bad english , thats my first message.
Im having thermal issues w my GL502VS too. I undervolt CPU (i7 6700HQ -0,150v)and make a custom voltage for the GTX 1070 in MSI Afterburner( I dont know if thats good enought 900mV@1800). Temps go cooler, but still reach up to 85° both CPU/GPU (vs stock 92° +).
Im thinking in repaste the laptop, but I think liquid metal is too dangerous for me. I has some thermal pads and Artic MX4. Can this improve a little the temps or is useless at all?
I read in this thread that u guys use foil tape to cover the hole between vents and heatsink, but i cant translate if this is normal adhesive or some special tape like aluminium or something...
Another question, my last, drill the bottom case only in fan's place or in hdds & ram ? That help?
Thanks a lot, hope you give me a hand.


I would consider buying bottom case from Aliexpress ASUS GL502VS-DS71 GL502VM-DS74 13NB0DD6AP0301 and perform experiments on it. Rather you will lose a warranty.

I planned following operations on my GL502VSK (before it went to RMA):
1. Cut holes in bottom cover to provide laminar air-flow to vents.
2. Polish cooling system (are which contacts GPU + CPU).
3. Apply Liquid Metal (it's not that hard - watch YouTube videos)
4. Tape holes between vents and sinks.

I believe it will provid best results.

McCoy wrote:
I would consider buying bottom case from Aliexpress ASUS GL502VS-DS71 GL502VM-DS74 13NB0DD6AP0301 and perform experiments on it. Rather you will lose a warranty.

I planned following operations on my GL502VSK (before it went to RMA):
1. Cut holes in bottom cover to provide laminar air-flow to vents.
2. Polish cooling system (are which contacts GPU + CPU).
3. Apply Liquid Metal (it's not that hard - watch YouTube videos)
4. Tape holes between vents and sinks.

I believe it will provid best results.


Thank you for your answer, mate.

I just receive yesterday the same aliexpress bottom case you are looking for. My laptop is black and a half grey doesnt look very good, but it fits perfectly and was the cheapest i found.
Im just now thinking how to drill it, cause I dont have advanced tools like dremel... but lets try.. I will show my results here.
About the liquid metal, I know is just like apply another thermal paste, but seems too much dangerous for the computer, so I prefer not to risk.. Hope a standard Artic MX4 improve a little the temps.

About the holes between vents and sinks, you recomend any especial item? I dont know if use basic plastic duct tape or aluminium..and remove the dust filters.. no idea..

Thanks! Good day

Niija wrote:
Thank you for your answer, mate.

I just receive yesterday the same aliexpress bottom case you are looking for. My laptop is black and a half grey doesnt look very good, but it fits perfectly and was the cheapest i found.
Im just now thinking how to drill it, cause I dont have advanced tools like dremel... but lets try.. I will show my results here.
About the liquid metal, I know is just like apply another thermal paste, but seems too much dangerous for the computer, so I prefer not to risk.. Hope a standard Artic MX4 improve a little the temps.

About the holes between vents and sinks, you recomend any especial item? I dont know if use basic plastic duct tape or aluminium..and remove the dust filters.. no idea..

Thanks! Good day


Dremel (r) is a best way if you can handle it - or just buy cheap copy. Or take to some workshop.

Applying Liquid Metal is not he same as for paste. I never tried to apply to chips directly - but i did application on CPU cover on desktop. MX4 will help, because factory application is awful (air bubbles).

I definitely NOT recommend to use typical plastic duct tape - hot air from vents might melt it. So Alu will be great.

And well ... maybe we can put a little copper radiator on this PCH chip? Someone tried?
Somebody done this?75506