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[GL702VM & similar] Solution to Performance issues / Overheating / Throttling / Whine

onjax
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Hi guys, I bought GL702VM and was upset with its ability to handle games and high load. I had immediate temperature jump to over 85 jump and throttling / frame drops in games. So I decided to understand how to improve things, even though, I already lost my warranty due to my experiments, but at least I can answer for everyone, that:
- the main problem of this notebook is inefficient, insufficient cooling system with too thin fans, too small heatsinks, vent holes in a wrong places (aside, not above the fans).

To prove this, I first changed the thermal interface to liquid metal. That doesn't solve the issue. This proves, the thermal contact is ok, but heat dissipation is bad. Second, I ran stress tests with back cover removed - helped a lot, about 15-20 degrees off. The proves that air intake is wrong in this system.

I also removed an antidust tape with holes covering all the intake holes. That helped by around 5 degrees and also brought down air noise.

Then I came to idea of downvolting CPU and GPU, thanks to devs of ThrottleStop and MSI Afterburner, we can do this with relative ease.

The result: Fan noise reduced by half. Temp drop is huge. More speed due to ability of CPU/GPU to properly boost to max speed.

For your information - CPU is responsible for about 30% of heat, GPU - for 70%. So best idea is to undervolt the GPU, but for best results go for both.

THE GUIDE - CPU
Variant A - Install Intel Xtreme Tuning Utility

  • Go to Advanced Tuning tab and Change Dynamic CPU Voltage Offset to negative value (move slider to the left). -100mV is a good starting point. Leave Mode to Adaptive.
  • Apply changes.

My CPU holds -150mV well.

Variant B - Install Throttle Stop 8.3 or above

  • On main window click FIVR button
  • Under CPU Core Voltage move Offset Voltage slider to the left. -100mV is a good starting point. The lower value the less heat.
  • Click Apply. On the same window you can save settings to make them apply every time you start the app.


THE GUIDE - GPU

  • Download and Install MSI Afterburner 4.3 or above
  • In settings turn on Unlock voltage control and Unlock voltage monitoring
  • Close MSI Afterburner
  • Download my Voltage Profile for GTX 1060
  • Extract profile to some folder and then copy file to "C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\Profiles". Click continue as Administrator when Windows asks permission to write.
  • Run MSI Afterburner, click on profile 1 (out of 5). Then press Ctrl+F. (1 - least heat, but may be unstable for some... 2, bit more voltage etc till 5.)
  • You will see my Voltage Curve (screenshot). What you'll see that it's flat until 1050mv. that means. 1050 will never be used, so will never be used any voltage except 831mV @ 1860 MHz and below.
  • Click apply to test this curve
  • If this curve is not stable for you - edit it to your taste: Click on 831mV dot and move it lower, so that lower freq will be used for that voltage, and for 1860 freq next available voltage will be used. Etc. Work with leftmost voltage dots to make everything stable.


This curve drops heat of GPU by at least 30%, which is huge.

THE GUIDE - COIL WHINE
Workaround described here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/975530

Perform only these steps as Administrator:
1. At a command prompt, run the following command:
reg add HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Processor /v Capabilities /t REG_DWORD /d 0x0007e066
2. Restart the computer.
3. Run ThrottleStop v8.3 or above and uncheck C1E. Click save.

In theory, it will make CPU a bit hotter while system is idle, because it disables some advanced C-states, but i didn't notice that in monitoring app.
That solved like 99.9% of the noise, and in addition, disabling C1E in ThrottleStop solved noise issue completely.
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dwyt326 wrote:
It helps reduce heat. 🙂


Because it limits the max framerate to you monitor's refresh rate (in order to eleminate screen tearing), thus your gpu has less work to do
GL702VM

I did a repaste and used thermal tape as well my gtx 1070 never reached 160 deg this is as high as it would get

TxGrin wrote:
I did a repaste and used thermal tape as well my gtx 1070 never reached 160 deg this is as high as it would get


What Temps do you get using Realbench? I've done the repaste myself and i'm still hitting about 83 degrees celsius on both with undervolt -130mv even though i bought my GL702VMK with a GTX1060.

Matze2k0 wrote:
What Temps do you get using Realbench? I've done the repaste myself and i'm still hitting about 83 degrees celsius on both with undervolt -130mv even though i bought my GL702VMK with a GTX1060.


Try to undervolt your GPU, it will make a HUGE difference

Bourak wrote:
Try to undervolt your GPU, it will make a HUGE difference


No need to. I'm happy with temps now . Just wanted to know what temps he would get using a 1070 and realbench after repaste.

Hi guys, I'm wondering if anyone here has experienced where Notebook Fan Control can't actually control the fans? Especially the 3rd fan for Asus Rog GL702VM(using a configuration made for this). Works fine for the CPU and GPU fans but when I try to input 0.00% as the target fan speed for the 3rd fan, it doesn't stop or slow down. I noticed this cause the fan is making noise like it's working at 100% even at idle temps and also when I change the status of NBFC to read-only, current fan speed is at 100.00%.

Is there any application where I can see the actual fan speed for the 3rd fan? Even ROG gaming center won't show it..

Thanks!

tvshim wrote:
Hi guys, I'm wondering if anyone here has experienced where Notebook Fan Control can't actually control the fans? Especially the 3rd fan for Asus Rog GL702VM(using a configuration made for this). Works fine for the CPU and GPU fans but when I try to input 0.00% as the target fan speed for the 3rd fan, it doesn't stop or slow down. I noticed this cause the fan is making noise like it's working at 100% even at idle temps and also when I change the status of NBFC to read-only, current fan speed is at 100.00%.

Is there any application where I can see the actual fan speed for the 3rd fan? Even ROG gaming center won't show it..

Thanks!


You only have to install the ATK Drivers for your Device and ROG Center will show the FAN Control Option.

Matze2k0 wrote:
You only have to install the ATK Drivers for your Device and ROG Center will show the FAN Control Option.


Hi, thanks. I tried installing ATK (from support page), but the Fan Control Option still wasn't present in my ROG Gaming Center v2.0.3. So I tried installing a newer version of Gaming Center (v2.1.4) but it still wasn't present. BTW my laptop is Asus ROG GL702VM, bios version is 306.

tvshim wrote:
Hi, thanks. I tried installing ATK (from support page), but the Fan Control Option still wasn't present in my ROG Gaming Center v2.0.3. So I tried installing a newer version of Gaming Center (v2.1.4) but it still wasn't present. BTW my laptop is Asus ROG GL702VM, bios version is 306.


That's strange. I had the same issue but FAN Control was available after ATK install. My Laptop is Asus ROG GL702VMK with Bios 303.

Matze2k0 wrote:
What Temps do you get using Realbench? I've done the repaste myself and i'm still hitting about 83 degrees celsius on both with undervolt -130mv even though i bought my GL702VMK with a GTX1060.



With realbench i never got past 154 deg, 67 c..