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[GL702VM & similar] Solution to Performance issues / Overheating / Throttling / Whine

onjax
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Hi guys, I bought GL702VM and was upset with its ability to handle games and high load. I had immediate temperature jump to over 85 jump and throttling / frame drops in games. So I decided to understand how to improve things, even though, I already lost my warranty due to my experiments, but at least I can answer for everyone, that:
- the main problem of this notebook is inefficient, insufficient cooling system with too thin fans, too small heatsinks, vent holes in a wrong places (aside, not above the fans).

To prove this, I first changed the thermal interface to liquid metal. That doesn't solve the issue. This proves, the thermal contact is ok, but heat dissipation is bad. Second, I ran stress tests with back cover removed - helped a lot, about 15-20 degrees off. The proves that air intake is wrong in this system.

I also removed an antidust tape with holes covering all the intake holes. That helped by around 5 degrees and also brought down air noise.

Then I came to idea of downvolting CPU and GPU, thanks to devs of ThrottleStop and MSI Afterburner, we can do this with relative ease.

The result: Fan noise reduced by half. Temp drop is huge. More speed due to ability of CPU/GPU to properly boost to max speed.

For your information - CPU is responsible for about 30% of heat, GPU - for 70%. So best idea is to undervolt the GPU, but for best results go for both.

THE GUIDE - CPU
Variant A - Install Intel Xtreme Tuning Utility

  • Go to Advanced Tuning tab and Change Dynamic CPU Voltage Offset to negative value (move slider to the left). -100mV is a good starting point. Leave Mode to Adaptive.
  • Apply changes.

My CPU holds -150mV well.

Variant B - Install Throttle Stop 8.3 or above

  • On main window click FIVR button
  • Under CPU Core Voltage move Offset Voltage slider to the left. -100mV is a good starting point. The lower value the less heat.
  • Click Apply. On the same window you can save settings to make them apply every time you start the app.


THE GUIDE - GPU

  • Download and Install MSI Afterburner 4.3 or above
  • In settings turn on Unlock voltage control and Unlock voltage monitoring
  • Close MSI Afterburner
  • Download my Voltage Profile for GTX 1060
  • Extract profile to some folder and then copy file to "C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\Profiles". Click continue as Administrator when Windows asks permission to write.
  • Run MSI Afterburner, click on profile 1 (out of 5). Then press Ctrl+F. (1 - least heat, but may be unstable for some... 2, bit more voltage etc till 5.)
  • You will see my Voltage Curve (screenshot). What you'll see that it's flat until 1050mv. that means. 1050 will never be used, so will never be used any voltage except 831mV @ 1860 MHz and below.
  • Click apply to test this curve
  • If this curve is not stable for you - edit it to your taste: Click on 831mV dot and move it lower, so that lower freq will be used for that voltage, and for 1860 freq next available voltage will be used. Etc. Work with leftmost voltage dots to make everything stable.


This curve drops heat of GPU by at least 30%, which is huge.

THE GUIDE - COIL WHINE
Workaround described here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/975530

Perform only these steps as Administrator:
1. At a command prompt, run the following command:
reg add HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Processor /v Capabilities /t REG_DWORD /d 0x0007e066
2. Restart the computer.
3. Run ThrottleStop v8.3 or above and uncheck C1E. Click save.

In theory, it will make CPU a bit hotter while system is idle, because it disables some advanced C-states, but i didn't notice that in monitoring app.
That solved like 99.9% of the noise, and in addition, disabling C1E in ThrottleStop solved noise issue completely.
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danmoore03 wrote:
Can you send us a link where you got the speaker grilles. I want to do this, i've modded mine like your last picture, but this looks much cleaner! Nice work

Thanks!


Thank you. This is the link from where I bought the grilles, it took 30 days to get to Chile, and I had to thin the plastic using dremel.

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/2PCS-1-inch-Tweeter-Speaker-Grille-Mesh-Enclosure-netting-Protective-...

it says to be 1 inch but 51mm is 2 inches.
greetings from Chile

Gatoxico wrote:
Thank you. This is the link from where I bought the grilles, it took 30 days to get to Chile, and I had to thin the plastic using dremel.

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/2PCS-1-inch-Tweeter-Speaker-Grille-Mesh-Enclosure-netting-Protective-...

it says to be 1 inch but 51mm is 2 inches.
greetings from Chile



Los instalaste?

Hello! First time poster.

I just bought a GL703VM-GC110 (60Hz variant, sadly, with i7-7700HQ and 1060). The thermals were atrocious from the get-go.

CPU would reach almost 95C and the GPU would reach almost 90C. I was close to returning it. But I found this thread and i was very helpful, thank you all!!

I managed to get temps down to 75C/75C under very heavy load with games like PUBG, Divinity 2, Guild Wars 2 in large cities, etc. It's working so much nicer now. What I did was undervolt the CPU with -0.100V and use the GPU MSI profiles that OP provided (very helpful, ty!), then lifted up my laptop with a little box. This seems to have done wonders, but I know I can get even better temps.

There is still one thing I cannot do, which is to get Notebook Fan Control working on this particular model.

Could anyone please provide me with a working profile specifically for the GL703? I found one for GL702 and what it did was completely destroy the whole Fan Control app. It no longer detects any kind of profile and does not work at all. Re-installing it doesn't even help.

So, I am still totally unaware how to control my fans manually on this machine. I've tried ROG Gaming Center (basically a useless app), ASUS GPU Tweak II, MSI Afterburner. None of them allow me to control the fans manually.

Another question I have is - Is ROG Aura expected to work AT ALL on this model? So far, I think it isn't. All I can get to work is Aura Core. The other Aura, that allows for FX like ripple, rain, etc, has no effect on my laptop whatsoever, expect the keyboard brightness slider. Is this normal, am I missing something here? At this point I have presumed that only Aura Core works with the very basic settings and no custom control for each button and more complex FX.

Any help would be great. Thank you!

EDIT:

I actually forgot to provide a few details regarding my experience, which might help some new people in the future. I went through the whole thread but I might have missed something, sorry about that in advance.

First, on the CPU undervolting:

Everyone should expect different results due to chip binning, and this was surely mentioned before (each chip is unique and ever-so-slightly different than others from the same series). So, start with -0.050V and do Stress Tests via the Intel utility for at least 5 minutes each @ 100% CPU usage (just select the CPU stress test and the time, it does the rest on its own). Benchmarking with the same tool could also be useful as it shows the maximum CPU temp reached while it was running.

So far, disabling the turbo boost (via Power Profile settings in Windows that limit Max. CPU to 99%) has proven to have no visible effect in gaming, but outside of gaming there might be a very light sensation of a performance drop. Negligible, though. The upper cap did wonders for steady temps under load around 75C and no throttling that could be felt.

Then, the GPU tweaks, done with MSI AFTERBURNER:

I couldn't get the profiles to run no matter what, and I almost gave up. At some point, I tried to copy the 1060 profile OP uploaded's contents with a text editor, then paste them over the profile with the same name that the app created on its own each time. The original profile is almost 50KB, but the app makes a different, default setting profile with the same name and uses that for some bizzare reason.

Well, pasting the config text manually into the file it creates, and then saving that file, will solve this problem - now you can load the new profile and see/use the voltage curves OP posted.

Finally, lifting up the notebook - this is huge and definitely made a difference instantly. I've ordered a cooling pad as well, which will helpfully help a slight bit further.

I have not done any re-pasting or hole-drilling and do not plan to at the moment.

The only other thing I wish I could improve is to have a working NFC profile for GL703VM...

Gatoxico wrote:
Thank you. This is the link from where I bought the grilles, it took 30 days to get to Chile, and I had to thin the plastic using dremel.

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/2PCS-1-inch-Tweeter-Speaker-Grille-Mesh-Enclosure-netting-Protective-...

it says to be 1 inch but 51mm is 2 inches.
greetings from Chile


Dude it looks clean af, how did you install them? First you did a 2mm dremel cut, but how did you keep them still with screws? or maybe super glue? lol

Saludos desde Honduras.

My current alineware 17 bottom panel mod is going good. I spent a few minutes and just folded the aluminum panel and broke off the half. Looking at the fitment here. It actually looks to fit ok as is but covers the bottom panel mounting screws, so looks like I will have to take one level off. Actually just might make a hole in the mesh just big enough to get those screws in.



There seems to be spacing on both sides:




Also can anyone give any insight on the little posts inside the panel and what their function is. Are they important? I know some people have run these laptops with the bottom panel off. There is also some kind of copper color strip. Not sure if it's some kind of anti static tape or what. I'd be losing a lot of these posts and that strip with such a huge cut out. Definitely hesitant on doing this now. Also would this affect my warranty?

Here is my simple story. I’m happy owner of ASUS ROG Strix GL502VS – very satisfied, using it for almost 6 months.
High temperatures during heavy load/sage were my only concern.

THE ULTIMATE TEMPERATURE TEST – play PUBG 🙂

I have been hitting even 98C for CPU and around/above 90C for GPU… throttling was present.
Tested 3 simple scenarios:

1/ Used ThrottleStop, undervolting -0.125 for cpu/cache result PUBG crashing. Stable -0.120 for cpu/cache affected temperatures in cosmetic way… like -2C or -3C… FPS drop? Little. I do not recommend this method because of system stability.

2/ Disabling TurboBoost affected nice temp drops but also visible FPS drops… (simple changing power management plan to 99% for CPU). I do not recommend this method because of losing to much of performance in demanding games, but its ok setup for common daily usage.

3/ Intel Xtreme Tuning, I disabled option for TurboShortBost (default is 65W for 28sec) and lowered normal TurboBoost to 25W (default is 45W) plus fans at maximum (4500rpm I think)…. Temps went down around -10C for CPU/GPU with just a few FPS in PUBG average. I recommend this method, good performance and no throttling; I use this setup for heavy PUBG gaming sessions.

Next step: modification to bottom case (ordered extra one for modifications); I plan to drill lots of small holes plus boost air flow with “Modecom Silent Fan Cf15”.

My goal is to achieve best/lowest temperatures with best/maximum performance. Stay tuned!

Has anyone noticed a significant temp drop from going to bios 307.

KalEl wrote:
Has anyone noticed a significant temp drop from going to bios 307.


GL703 here. Updated from 306 to 307 few weeks ago, nothing's changed here.

KalEl wrote:
Has anyone noticed a significant temp drop from going to bios 307.


I noticed some changes in cooling policy, mainly fans shutting off if the temps are below 40 C. That rarely happens, though.

KalEl wrote:
Also can anyone give any insight on the little posts inside the panel and what their function is. Are they important? I know some people have run these laptops with the bottom panel off. There is also some kind of copper color strip. Not sure if it's some kind of anti static tape or what. I'd be losing a lot of these posts and that strip with such a huge cut out. Definitely hesitant on doing this now. Also would this affect my warranty?


It's pretty simple, really. Those little posts are important, yes, they keep the components in place, as an extra safety measure. Anti static tape you mentioned is a foil aluminum tape used to shield the heat from the bottom of the device and help transferring it to the heat pipes, I personally wouldn't remove it. And lastly, yes, doing any mods to your bottom cover voids your warranty.

Update: Don't forget to consider plastic rigidity. If you remove too much, it will lose it's strength and might even crack or break. If I were you I'd test the mod elsewhere and then moved on to the actual laptop.

pekkakana wrote:
Here is my simple story. I’m happy owner of ASUS ROG Strix GL502VS – very satisfied, using it for almost 6 months.
High temperatures during heavy load/sage were my only concern.

THE ULTIMATE TEMPERATURE TEST – play PUBG 🙂

I have been hitting even 98C for CPU and around/above 90C for GPU… throttling was present.
Tested 3 simple scenarios:

1/ Used ThrottleStop, undervolting -0.125 for cpu/cache result PUBG crashing. Stable -0.120 for cpu/cache affected temperatures in cosmetic way… like -2C or -3C… FPS drop? Little. I do not recommend this method because of system stability.

2/ Disabling TurboBoost affected nice temp drops but also visible FPS drops… (simple changing power management plan to 99% for CPU). I do not recommend this method because of losing to much of performance in demanding games, but its ok setup for common daily usage.

3/ Intel Xtreme Tuning, I disabled option for TurboShortBost (default is 65W for 28sec) and lowered normal TurboBoost to 25W (default is 45W) plus fans at maximum (4500rpm I think)…. Temps went down around -10C for CPU/GPU with just a few FPS in PUBG average. I recommend this method, good performance and no throttling; I use this setup for heavy PUBG gaming sessions.

Next step: modification to bottom case (ordered extra one for modifications); I plan to drill lots of small holes plus boost air flow with “Modecom Silent Fan Cf15”.

My goal is to achieve best/lowest temperatures with best/maximum performance. Stay tuned!




!!! UPDATE !!! my goal is achieved
🙂
All settings on default/stock only bottom case moification as presented on screen.
PUBG results: CPU@86C, GPU@79C max; achieved more than -10C during heavy load on full/maximum machine performance.