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[GL702VM & similar] Solution to Performance issues / Overheating / Throttling / Whine

onjax
Level 9
Hi guys, I bought GL702VM and was upset with its ability to handle games and high load. I had immediate temperature jump to over 85 jump and throttling / frame drops in games. So I decided to understand how to improve things, even though, I already lost my warranty due to my experiments, but at least I can answer for everyone, that:
- the main problem of this notebook is inefficient, insufficient cooling system with too thin fans, too small heatsinks, vent holes in a wrong places (aside, not above the fans).

To prove this, I first changed the thermal interface to liquid metal. That doesn't solve the issue. This proves, the thermal contact is ok, but heat dissipation is bad. Second, I ran stress tests with back cover removed - helped a lot, about 15-20 degrees off. The proves that air intake is wrong in this system.

I also removed an antidust tape with holes covering all the intake holes. That helped by around 5 degrees and also brought down air noise.

Then I came to idea of downvolting CPU and GPU, thanks to devs of ThrottleStop and MSI Afterburner, we can do this with relative ease.

The result: Fan noise reduced by half. Temp drop is huge. More speed due to ability of CPU/GPU to properly boost to max speed.

For your information - CPU is responsible for about 30% of heat, GPU - for 70%. So best idea is to undervolt the GPU, but for best results go for both.

THE GUIDE - CPU
Variant A - Install Intel Xtreme Tuning Utility

  • Go to Advanced Tuning tab and Change Dynamic CPU Voltage Offset to negative value (move slider to the left). -100mV is a good starting point. Leave Mode to Adaptive.
  • Apply changes.

My CPU holds -150mV well.

Variant B - Install Throttle Stop 8.3 or above

  • On main window click FIVR button
  • Under CPU Core Voltage move Offset Voltage slider to the left. -100mV is a good starting point. The lower value the less heat.
  • Click Apply. On the same window you can save settings to make them apply every time you start the app.


THE GUIDE - GPU

  • Download and Install MSI Afterburner 4.3 or above
  • In settings turn on Unlock voltage control and Unlock voltage monitoring
  • Close MSI Afterburner
  • Download my Voltage Profile for GTX 1060
  • Extract profile to some folder and then copy file to "C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\Profiles". Click continue as Administrator when Windows asks permission to write.
  • Run MSI Afterburner, click on profile 1 (out of 5). Then press Ctrl+F. (1 - least heat, but may be unstable for some... 2, bit more voltage etc till 5.)
  • You will see my Voltage Curve (screenshot). What you'll see that it's flat until 1050mv. that means. 1050 will never be used, so will never be used any voltage except 831mV @ 1860 MHz and below.
  • Click apply to test this curve
  • If this curve is not stable for you - edit it to your taste: Click on 831mV dot and move it lower, so that lower freq will be used for that voltage, and for 1860 freq next available voltage will be used. Etc. Work with leftmost voltage dots to make everything stable.


This curve drops heat of GPU by at least 30%, which is huge.

THE GUIDE - COIL WHINE
Workaround described here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/975530

Perform only these steps as Administrator:
1. At a command prompt, run the following command:
reg add HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Processor /v Capabilities /t REG_DWORD /d 0x0007e066
2. Restart the computer.
3. Run ThrottleStop v8.3 or above and uncheck C1E. Click save.

In theory, it will make CPU a bit hotter while system is idle, because it disables some advanced C-states, but i didn't notice that in monitoring app.
That solved like 99.9% of the noise, and in addition, disabling C1E in ThrottleStop solved noise issue completely.
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FastM wrote:
unplug it?


Of course except that. I still need it when I'm gaming, but it's really distracting when you hear it while not gaming.

tvshim wrote:
Of course except that. I still need it when I'm gaming, but it's really distracting when you hear it while not gaming.


Mine doesn't even start while browsing.

StarJack
Level 11
I've undervolted my CPU as per Onjax. I was able to get to -0.130v and it's stable.we Unfortunately, with regards to GPU, when I copy his profile cfg into my Afterburner profiles folder and fire it up each profile says it is empty. Am I missing something simple here?

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StarJack
Level 11
My profile issue had to do with file permissions on the profile cfg file. So I am now using profile 1 from Onjax in Afterburner. My CPU is undervolted - 0.135 now and seems stable. With these two changes I would see my CPU at 84C and GPU at up to 88C when playing Splinter Cell Blacklist with Ultra details (I know, maybe not the best game to test with but my library is limited). Incorporating the 99% CPU power profile method on top of those changes brought my CPU down to 74C and GPU to 78C with the same game setup. I plan to go even further with a cooling pad and Opolar LC06 extractor. Hopefully I end up with an even more acceptable environment.

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Leader2light
Level 7
I turned off intel turbo boost and that fixed my problem. Limited cpu to 99%. Wish there was a bios method for disabling turbo boost.

Leader2light wrote:
I turned off intel turbo boost and that fixed my problem. Limited cpu to 99%. Wish there was a bios method for disabling turbo boost.


Have you noticed a decrease in performance at all?

My first gamers laptop, but wow i didn't expect it to be getting this hot 90 degrees !
Unfortunately i bought a new samsung ssd with it, and did all the backup things on this laptop.

If i knew this i returned this laptop, now i undervoltaged and did all these workarounds to get lower temps.
Asus how the hell can you sell this crappy not cooling laptop ? Came from a desktop and yes i expect it to run a little hotter but not on it's limits 😞

Anyone knows how to keep the fans turning a little more constant with notebook fancontrol ?
Any ideas with airflow in the laptop, i don't see any opening near the fans that gets air from outside. Asus did not think well enough on this :rolleyes:

I am running throttle stop 0,140 undervoltage (XTU did not work on startup) , MSI afterburner , Notebook fancontrol , cpu max to 99% .
Now running 80 temp on GPU and 76 CPU with Battlefield 1 on Ultra, any more ideas without an extra cooling fan ?

Trevor88 wrote:
Have you noticed a decrease in performance at all?


No if anything I get better FPS. Turbo boost does not really help in games. Basically only good in applications where the task would take 30 sec for example.

Turbo boost can't run for longer than few seconds so in games it creates ups and downs in FPS anyway.

My FPS is about the same max, but much more stable.

Leader2light wrote:
No if anything I get better FPS. Turbo boost does not really help in games. Basically only good in applications where the task would take 30 sec for example.

Turbo boost can't run for longer than few seconds so in games it creates ups and downs in FPS anyway.

My FPS is about the same max, but much more stable.




1. Turbo boost does really help in games - coz it's a pure CPU speedup, just like any other speedup.

2. Turbo boost can run for longer than few seconds - by default, cpu is allowed to run over its default 45W power cap for about 30 seconds, BUT since we applied UV, we will never cross that 45W threshold, CPU will run on Turbo for indefinite time, limited only by temperature. If temp will be OK, will run full speed without any fallbacks. This is confirmed by me. Getting 2.6GHz or 3.5GHz - your choice. I paid for 3.5 and I'm using it.

3. FPS will be limited either by CPU or GPU, or generally VSYNC

StarJack
Level 11
My GL702VM idles at 44C/45C for CPU/GPU with fans at 1900 rpm. After gaming with something like Shadow of Mordor on ultra for about 15 minutes I'm up to 78C/80C for CPU/GPU. I honestly don't know if this laptop could last the three years I'd like to get out of it for my money. I have 20 days to decide. With what appears to be physical limitations I am unsure the engineers at ASUS can do anything about this but I'd love to be proven wrong because I really like the rig.

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