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[GL702VM & similar] Solution to Performance issues / Overheating / Throttling / Whine

onjax
Level 9
Hi guys, I bought GL702VM and was upset with its ability to handle games and high load. I had immediate temperature jump to over 85 jump and throttling / frame drops in games. So I decided to understand how to improve things, even though, I already lost my warranty due to my experiments, but at least I can answer for everyone, that:
- the main problem of this notebook is inefficient, insufficient cooling system with too thin fans, too small heatsinks, vent holes in a wrong places (aside, not above the fans).

To prove this, I first changed the thermal interface to liquid metal. That doesn't solve the issue. This proves, the thermal contact is ok, but heat dissipation is bad. Second, I ran stress tests with back cover removed - helped a lot, about 15-20 degrees off. The proves that air intake is wrong in this system.

I also removed an antidust tape with holes covering all the intake holes. That helped by around 5 degrees and also brought down air noise.

Then I came to idea of downvolting CPU and GPU, thanks to devs of ThrottleStop and MSI Afterburner, we can do this with relative ease.

The result: Fan noise reduced by half. Temp drop is huge. More speed due to ability of CPU/GPU to properly boost to max speed.

For your information - CPU is responsible for about 30% of heat, GPU - for 70%. So best idea is to undervolt the GPU, but for best results go for both.

THE GUIDE - CPU
Variant A - Install Intel Xtreme Tuning Utility

  • Go to Advanced Tuning tab and Change Dynamic CPU Voltage Offset to negative value (move slider to the left). -100mV is a good starting point. Leave Mode to Adaptive.
  • Apply changes.

My CPU holds -150mV well.

Variant B - Install Throttle Stop 8.3 or above

  • On main window click FIVR button
  • Under CPU Core Voltage move Offset Voltage slider to the left. -100mV is a good starting point. The lower value the less heat.
  • Click Apply. On the same window you can save settings to make them apply every time you start the app.


THE GUIDE - GPU

  • Download and Install MSI Afterburner 4.3 or above
  • In settings turn on Unlock voltage control and Unlock voltage monitoring
  • Close MSI Afterburner
  • Download my Voltage Profile for GTX 1060
  • Extract profile to some folder and then copy file to "C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\Profiles". Click continue as Administrator when Windows asks permission to write.
  • Run MSI Afterburner, click on profile 1 (out of 5). Then press Ctrl+F. (1 - least heat, but may be unstable for some... 2, bit more voltage etc till 5.)
  • You will see my Voltage Curve (screenshot). What you'll see that it's flat until 1050mv. that means. 1050 will never be used, so will never be used any voltage except 831mV @ 1860 MHz and below.
  • Click apply to test this curve
  • If this curve is not stable for you - edit it to your taste: Click on 831mV dot and move it lower, so that lower freq will be used for that voltage, and for 1860 freq next available voltage will be used. Etc. Work with leftmost voltage dots to make everything stable.


This curve drops heat of GPU by at least 30%, which is huge.

THE GUIDE - COIL WHINE
Workaround described here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/975530

Perform only these steps as Administrator:
1. At a command prompt, run the following command:
reg add HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Processor /v Capabilities /t REG_DWORD /d 0x0007e066
2. Restart the computer.
3. Run ThrottleStop v8.3 or above and uncheck C1E. Click save.

In theory, it will make CPU a bit hotter while system is idle, because it disables some advanced C-states, but i didn't notice that in monitoring app.
That solved like 99.9% of the noise, and in addition, disabling C1E in ThrottleStop solved noise issue completely.
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Matt2097 wrote:
If you'd be kind enough to purchase me a copy of GTA 5, sure 😉

Games I have readily available:
* Batman, Arkham Knight
* Tomb Raider
* Xcom 2
* Shadow of Mordor

Let me know if any of those are of any use to you.


Ok, Shadow of Mordor would be nice.
Yesterday i applied profile #3 in Shadow of Mordor and had ~85 degrees on GPU

apemonkeychimp
Level 7
Hey onjax, thanks a lot for your guide. I was able to boost and straighten out the performance of my GL502VS significantly. Also it doesn't hit the powertarget anymore and stays somewhat coolee and quieter. What an achievement! 🙂
I was able to UV the CPU by 150mV.
The GPU now runs at 1700MHz @ 825mV.
This is the sweetspot of my machine. Anything higher than that clock- or corewise wil make it unstable, get hot or hit the powertarget so no gain in fps.
Thanks again mate!

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My experience in here is that somehow if I undervolt it with Onjax rules I got serious slow loading textures. I´ve test this with GTA V because that is the only game so far it makes my CPU throttle with temperature.

Reducing to 99% power options worked best for me for temperature control because you won´t notice it in the game.

Which led me to reopen this subject and ask if maybe undervolting is really underclocking your whole system but you only notice that in some specific tests.

Anyway I would really be happy if somehow ASUS would fix this issue with another Thermal Policy review.

Matt2097
Level 8
Just ran the Shadow of Mordor benchmark 3 times on 1080p & Ultra settings:
62140

74 degrees... it is pretty cold in the house though, temps would be higher once the heating kicked in.

Matt2097 wrote:
Just ran the Shadow of Mordor benchmark 3 times on 1080p & Ultra settings:
62140

74 degrees... it is pretty cold in the house though, temps would be higher once the heating kicked in.


Have no idea how did you get this.
I apply profile #3 and go to the game.
May be i need to do some other settings in Afterburner?

Matt2097
Level 8
Hi Plumicla,

I just used the snipping tool to get the graph that sits at the bottom of MSI afterburner (you need to have MSI Afterburner running in the background while you're gaming).

If you mean that you have no idea how I got those temperatures... well, there seems to be a lot of variance in the temps people get. EpicMomo seems to run 10 degrees hotter on the GPU and 15 degrees cooler on the CPU compared to me with near identical settings. The important bit is to check that your system is limiting the GPU voltage (again check after having Afterburner running in the background while gaming) as is seems that in some cases the profile is being changed after you hit apply, resulting is the limit not working as expected.

Also, massive thanks for onjax for starting this thread - I'd never undervolted or played with GPU profiles before and am WAY happier now that I can play at 1080p without my wife moaning at me about the fan noise 🙂

No under volting and i get no stuttering and temps are 83 CPU 86 GPU, not hot keys and can't hear fan and FPS is reasonable....62212

Well after some testing I confirm that´s better to use Onjax method. It works to normalize the temperature and have CPU full power.

Hopefully ASUS make something with this problem... We could all do something in order ASUS team make something out of it.

Any suggestions?

Kompensan wrote:
Well after some testing I confirm that´s better to use Onjax method. It works to normalize the temperature and have CPU full power.

Hopefully ASUS make something with this problem... We could all do something in order ASUS team make something out of it.

Any suggestions?


Not possible, it is designed to run like that. As far as I read reviews of the so called Gamer's notebooks, I see Asus is not the worst case. Almost any notebook shows throttling, some skip over 40% of their clocks. That's really a shame.

We are lucky Intel and Nvidia aren't blocked ability to do UV.

I still find it weird that even if i under volted and limited my gpu voltage t0 850mv i still generate the same amount of heat. I still get a constant 85-86c, at least it doesnt surpass that, but it will shorten my notebook's spanlife for sure