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ASUS ROGgl702vm (and GL502VS,GL703GE) Fans always max speed even when IDLE-WORKAROUND

toske
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Hi Everyone ! I have seen some post in the past about this issue, but none of them seem to have a solution and seem to be abandoned. I have been having this problem for quite some time now.. and while its been on and off, with every windows update it seems to get worse.

The problem concerns the CPU and GPU fans both. The CPU fan is almost always the one on max.

The problem happened, as it did with many others, after the failed windows creators update, that kept coming back and back after failing until there was a workaround by disabling the secure boot on the ssd and installing it manually rather than letting it do it by itself. All was well and good, but after few days noticed that the laptop sometimes would spin the fans up to max for few seconds (even if it was idle ) and then go quiet again. After few weeks it would do that for the first 20 minutes of being booted until it gradually went down and stayed at a normal speed and responded to actual temps and not its own whim.
Fast forward few months to today and the fans just randomly speed up to max and stay there for the whole day, sometimes shutting it down mid rampage and turning it on again would solve the issue, but most time it would not.
If I was gaming 24/7, the unbearable fans noise would not be a problem, but I started to use it as a youtube machine during working hours and gaming later it, just kills the nice quiet stillness in the office with its space jet engines while doing the most minimal tasks.

I have tried the NBfC while its good indicator which fan start to act up, it does not have a profile for the laptop and it struggles to keep the fans at bay once they want to go full speed. It sort of chokes them up and they keep coming back in bursts, so its not really a solution, but even more of an annoyance. The fan speed indicator also does not pick up when the fans are acting up, it always shows them to be at 12.5% even if they are at max, but once the fans act normal again, the indicator seems to represent the values more accurately. It's almost as if the fan controller is not communicating properly with the sensors.

I have not re-enabled the secure boot as from reading the workaround threads many people reported it would not boot up again.

Some things i have noticed is that the CPU is running at boosted clock speeds even when idling, however during the times of bliss and quiet when the fans are under control the temps keep around 45 degrees with the boosted clocks still there, so I am not sure it is the culprit rather than a symptom of what ever might be causing the issue.

I live in quite warm climate so the temps are normal to be like this, they never go above 80 under load and for a thin machine i would not expect more of it (apart from a better air intake for the fans, which are obviously starved for air with this design)

If anyone has a solution they might have found or any ideas of what i could try to solve the issue, I would be most grateful !

THESE WORKAROUND MIGHT ONLY BE TEMPORARY AND REQUIRE YOU TO REAPPLY THEM CONSTANTLY

EDIT 01/2021 :
Another possible workaround:
1. Remove and reinsert the wire going to the left fan.
2. Remove and reinsert the wire going to the right fan.
3. Disconnect and reconnect the battery.

EDIT : Possible Solution for anyone looking for an answer, from the last post on the thread.
I have tried with my gl702vm, moved some cables around so there would be no contact with any part of the motherboard and removed a tape that was used to secure the cable to some components. Didn't have a single instance of fans ramping up. For now this seems to be the main workaround.


KAB123456789 wrote:
Pretty much true in my case. If you're having the same problem as I did, all you really have to do is move the wire connecting the fans to the motherboard away from components on your laptop.

My story here: https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/why-is-my-gpu-fan-insane.3532974/post-21412825

It's a really dumb design flaw. Not ragging on ASUS at all, you can't really predict this is going to happen. Just seems like it's receiving either heat from components they're touching, or EMF interference from being so close.

Shouldn't take you more than 30 total minutes to fix it. Please let me know if this helps someone so that we can figure out whether or not I accidentally fixed something else isntead, haha.



Zethriel wrote:
This quote led to the answer.

Ignore every other software,utility, driver and BIOS speculation.
The problem with the fan is the wire connecting it. It is either caused by the connector not connected properly or some interference from the chip that the wire hangs over.

I looked up a video how to teardown the laptop. The GL703GE is very easy to work on. The video is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix4eD2506oQ

From that video, you can see below that the wire in the video is looped around a resistor or capacitor or something (some silver cylinder). It does NOT hang over the chip near the fan. My machine, and most other pics I have seen online, show the wire handing over the chip that is just under the person's baby finger in the picture below.

I looped my wire the way it shows in the picture, made sure it was connected (it already was), and the problem has never happened since.

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topcad wrote:
I had fan problems on my new GL703GE - GPU fan would get stuck on high no matter what process or task I was working on. Tried every trick I found here and ended up sending it in under warranty. It's been a week and we shall see what they say the problem is.


So did you get your laptop back? What did they said problem was?

The recent BIOS update coupled with the removal of Armoury Crate and using GPU Tweak II instead has cleared up the issue for me.

Well i have ROG GL703GE and BIOS Version 318.

Before update of BIOS i would run FurMark and vents would get silent but after this update they are always running like crazy

GL703GE, (GTX 1050Ti)

I have tried everything I have read here or elsewhere. The fan goes to full speed randomly for no reason. Furmark sometimes calmed it down quickly, other times, even it did not work. Asus had my machine TWICE, the second time replacing the motherboard apparently. That didn't help. drivers, fresh windows installs, ASUS tools, 3rd party tools... nothing helped. What I noticed was that the problem would go on for a couple hours, every 5 or ten minutes, and then suddenly, it would calm down and stay calm, for the rest of the day.

So, the ONE solution I have found was waiting until it calmed down one day and then I didn't shut my machine down at night. I reboot it every day or so, but never leave it shut down for any time at all.

Bios 318 + GPU Tweak II + Latest NVidia Drivers + Power settings to never sleep and turn off monitor after 15 minutes, and I suspend Windows Update. I check manually for updates every week or so. I actually have no idea if anything of that helped.

So far, it has been about 3 weeks now that the fans have not gone crazy. They have occasionally sped up a bit for no reason, and cycled up and down a little bit once or twice, but nowhere near the 5900 RPM they would hit before. In fact, I would not have even noticed were it not on my lap at the time.

So, something is still not "fixed", but the machine is fine as long as I don't shut it down. It has been entirely tolerable.

EDIT: Last week when I manually ran Windows update, there was an update of some sort from Asus (I forget what). I am not sure if that also helped.

Hello. The only solution that I was able to do and work is to change the "power options" settings in the system. Each profile has been changed in the advanced processor power management / cooling settings from active to passive. GL703 laptop operation has returned to normal. In the gaming center set "fan overbost".
None of the programs for controlling fans or processor management are working. Updating the bios did not bring anything - I have the latest one on which the computer worked normally. Changing the Nvidia drivers to older ones also did not change the thread even after a clean installation. It's possible that the changes were on the windows side - I haven't tested the chipset firmware update

I've had the GL704GW for about 6 months and the fan issues were VERY annoying. Only thing that helped, COMPLETELY, is re pasting.

ASUS assemblers are drunken monkeys when it comes to the thermal paste. It was uneven, sloppy, just a huge mess. The longest, hardest part of it (the only hard part, actually, if you are smarter than certain drunken monkeys) is cleaning the old paste, which is globbed liberally everywhere except where its most vital. There was not much at all on the GPU or CPU, and way way way too much on the rest of the chipset. It looked like a tube of toothpaste had been emptied. Also, 4 of the screws on the heat pipes and cooling assembly were so loose I'm amazed they weren't rattling around in the case.

Good thermal paste is cheap, and the results for me have been amazing. Thermals are averaging 3-5C cooler at low idle, and 1-2C cooler on average when gaming. And I haven't had random fan ramping, or thermal throttling since I did it. It has been almost a week. Its not difficult. If you don't have experience doing it watch a few vids on youtube to get familiar with the process.

chaaards wrote:

EDIT 2 ::
Fixed by Asus Service Center -_-
They said the cable or connector or whatever didn't work properly.


Pretty much true in my case. If you're having the same problem as I did, all you really have to do is move the wire connecting the fans to the motherboard away from components on your laptop.

My story here: https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/why-is-my-gpu-fan-insane.3532974/post-21412825

It's a really dumb design flaw. Not ragging on ASUS at all, you can't really predict this is going to happen. Just seems like it's receiving either heat from components they're touching, or EMF interference from being so close.

Shouldn't take you more than 30 total minutes to fix it. Please let me know if this helps someone so that we can figure out whether or not I accidentally fixed something else isntead, haha.

KAB123456789 wrote:
Pretty much true in my case. If you're having the same problem as I did, all you really have to do is move the wire connecting the fans to the motherboard away from components on your laptop.

My story here: https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/why-is-my-gpu-fan-insane.3532974/post-21412825

It's a really dumb design flaw. Not ragging on ASUS at all, you can't really predict this is going to happen. Just seems like it's receiving either heat from components they're touching, or EMF interference from being so close.

Shouldn't take you more than 30 total minutes to fix it. Please let me know if this helps someone so that we can figure out whether or not I accidentally fixed something else isntead, haha.


thank you for posting this ! I will have a look and see if i can replicate the fix 🙂

KAB123456789 wrote:
Pretty much true in my case. If you're having the same problem as I did, all you really have to do is move the wire connecting the fans to the motherboard away from components on your laptop.

My story here: https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/why-is-my-gpu-fan-insane.3532974/post-21412825

It's a really dumb design flaw. Not ragging on ASUS at all, you can't really predict this is going to happen. Just seems like it's receiving either heat from components they're touching, or EMF interference from being so close.

Shouldn't take you more than 30 total minutes to fix it. Please let me know if this helps someone so that we can figure out whether or not I accidentally fixed something else isntead, haha.


This quote led to the answer.

Ignore every other software,utility, driver and BIOS speculation.
The problem with the fan is the wire connecting it. It is either caused by the connector not connected properly or some interference from the chip that the wire hangs over.

I looked up a video how to teardown the laptop. The GL703GE is very easy to work on. The video is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix4eD2506oQ

From that video, you can see below that the wire in the video is looped around a resistor or capacitor or something (some silver cylinder). It does NOT hang over the chip near the fan. My machine, and most other pics I have seen online, show the wire handing over the chip that is just under the person's baby finger in the picture below.

I looped my wire the way it shows in the picture, made sure it was connected (it already was), and the problem has never happened since.

83340

Zethriel is absolutely correct. However, only after wrapping the wire in electrical tape (so that the wires were completely covered) did this solution work for me. Some kind of electrical interference / insulation problem I guess.