Queen6 wrote:
Checking Speed Shift EPP in ThrottleStop (TS) will at do best nothing, at worst force a clash with Windows 10. 128 is a TS default, not the OEM value (mine being 84 or 0). To use Speed Shift effectively in TS you need to also set values in the TPL Window, again TS and W10 fighting to control the CPU is a very bad idea. Disabling W10 Speed Shift control is possible, equally far more complex.
Those unsure if Speed Shift is active (BIOS related) it will be Green in TS main window and you can check with HWinfo64 or CPU Z, SST should be available if Speed Shift is running, if not it can be manually started with TS. Speed Shift primary purpose is to improve CPU efficiency in changing frequency and associated power savings. it's not going to enhance performance of locked H series CPU's so don't sweat it.
Undervolt needs to be established for both CPU on and off load, across all power settings to ensure guaranteed stability, this is where the TS profiles come into play. On battery for instance VID will be reduced by default, too low a global undervolt and the system will crash, same applies for the likes of ROG's Silent mode (TDP down) as CPU PL-1 TDP is reduced to approx. 32W, versus the typical 45W.
Q-6
Hey Q-6,
you talked about limiting the TDP. How can i do it with Win10? In the ROG Gaming Center if i want to change the Fan modes it always stays at Overboost. Even when i make profiles with diferent modes it satys at overboost. Which values in the TPL screen should i change to get the best out of Speedshift.
I checked the box "lock" at the bottom of the picture below but now i cant uncheck it anymore :(.
Regards
mp271901 wrote:
Hey Q-6,
you talked about limiting the TDP. How can i do it with Win10? In the ROG Gaming Center if i want to change the Fan modes it always stays at Overboost. Even when i make profiles with diferent modes it satys at overboost. Which values in the TPL screen should i change to get the best out of Speedshift.
I checked the box "lock" at the bottom of the picture below but now i cant uncheck it anymore :(.
Regards
With my GL703GS it has three modes that effect CPU/GPU TDP and fan RPM. You can see the change in TDP in the TS main window under full load or with HWinfo64. Speed Shift is already enabled by W10, setting the Windows power slider to Best Performance should set Speed Shift EPP to 0 (fastest). Turning the Speed Shift option on in TS will just result in TS & W10 fighting for control. No point really, just let W10 do it's thing, if you want max performance set to Best Performance on the W10 Power Slider, however that may push the temps.
To reduce TDP in W10 try the opposite, setting the Power Slider to Best Battery Life, should make a difference. You can really get into it with the advanced power settings, although I just like the easier option of using the slider, between that and ROG's profiles it's granular enough for my needs.
Can you do a screencap of your Gaming Center like as not it's different to my notebook, I can flip profiles with FN & F5 keys or in the Gaming Center, and can see the TDP change in TS when running TS Bench.
Well "Lock" does exactly that 🙂 it locks the values. Answer is to exit TS, delete the ThrottleStop.ini file and set it up again, uncheck "Clamp" as that's a limiter.
Q-6
Queen6 wrote:
With my GL703GS it has three modes that effect CPU/GPU TDP and fan RPM. You can see the change in TDP in the TS main window under full load or with HWinfo64. Speed Shift is already enabled by W10, setting the Windows power slider to Best Performance should set Speed Shift EPP to 0 (fastest). Turning the Speed Shift option on in TS will just result in TS & W10 fighting for control. No point really, just let W10 do it's thing, if you want max performance set to Best Performance on the W10 Power Slider, however that may push the temps.
To reduce TDP in W10 try the opposite, setting the Power Slider to Best Battery Life, should make a difference. You can really get into it with the advanced power settings, although I just like the easier option of using the slider, between that and ROG's profiles it's granular enough for my needs.
Can you do a screencap of your Gaming Center like as not it's different to my notebook, I can flip profiles with FN & F5 keys or in the Gaming Center, and can see the TDP change in TS when running TS Bench.
Well "Lock" does exactly that 🙂 it locks the values. Answer is to exit TS, delete the ThrottleStop.ini file and set it up again, uncheck "Clamp" as that's a limiter.
Q-6
ok in which window i can see the TDP value in TS?.
I checked the energy options and i couldnt find the settings for TDP (first picture). i didnt unfold MAX processor state because it wouldnt fit in one picture then. But it shows the same stuff like MIN processor state.
I was able to change the fan modes with FN+F5 but just in case there is the picture as well.
Regards
Here - Package Power 60W
After 28 seconds it will drop to the PL-1 enforced limit of 45W, if TDP is reduced it will drop to 35W, on battery something like 28W etc. If TDP down is not working check that in TS FIVR Disable and lock Turbo Power Limits isn't checked as this breaks the TDP down feature.
Mine is a Strix (GL703GS, to be exact it's a S7BS8750)
Power limits in HWinfo64 90/45
TDP Down in effect 90/35
Note W10 power plan also has control via Speed Shift EPP, so want absolute max need to switch ROG to Overboost and W10 to Best Performance
Q-6
After 28 seconds it will drop to the PL-1 enforced limit of 45W, if TDP is reduced it will drop to 35W, on battery something like 28W etc. If TDP down is not working check that in TS FIVR Disable and lock Turbo Power Limits isn't checked as this breaks the TDP down feature.
Mine is a Strix (GL703GS, to be exact it's a S7BS8750)
Power limits in HWinfo64 90/45
TDP Down in effect 90/35
Note W10 power plan also has control via Speed Shift EPP, so want absolute max need to switch ROG to Overboost and W10 to Best Performance
Q-6
