asus rog strix g18 5080 / Ultra 9 275HX [Normal to have 98-99 temps]?

[berno01]

Hello!

I've owned this laptop for about 7 months, however in these 7 months it would appear that performance was okay for league of legends but now that I've gone back to lost ark or other mmos it appears that the CPU ranges to 98-99C and the GPU does not go above 25-35%?

Anyone else have had this problem? Is it normal? Should I take my laptop to be swapped out or repaired?

Like I get 100-130 fps in lost ark on medium settings but I think its quite low for the specs if I am being honest [on lost ark].

And in general sometimes it even ******s it self and its like 60-70 after hours of gaming. However, I am more concerned that the temps are 97-98 degrees on a 20c room with an extra fan helping ventilation [Computer fan whatever they are called]

NOTE: I have ultimate on for the GPU.

I am also using Turbo mode.

I am mostly confused on what the issue might be.

[ElectroStingz]

Hello,

To some extent but it depends on what you are quoting as the CPU temperature should peak to 95 DegC + and on average be sitting closer to 75 DegC.

Also when playing and viewing temperatures you need to see what the CPU Performance cores are running in real time. Reason being this will show you if the CPU is overheating badly or just running hot due to boosting high.

EG,

If the P-Cores are staying around 5GHz during gaming with the CPU P-Core Temps at 75 DegC with moments Spikes to 99DegC... It's considered normal.

If the P-Cores are always dropping well below 2GHz during gaming and temperatures at 95 DegC with spikes also the same, it's overheating.

And some games are single core based, as in they generally do not make use of all the Performance cores at the same time so these games will see the P-Cores generally run to a higher boost frequency, meaning they will run hotter than a game that makes good use of all the P-Cores. 

Try running a game in windowed mode with hardware monitor open to see how it's running.

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6Ghrp4aWYs

Download hardware monitor here: https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

I use Robocop Rogue City as this game engine (UE5) makes good use of all the P-Cores. (My CPU is set to 5GHz max in this example, a default CPU would run a lot higher temps)

[ROGob93nhgrprh5]

NOOO its not normal !! my scar 16 275HX 5090 runs at 68-75C! 

R23 Cinebench 68-72C. 39800 multiscore. Check your R23 multiscore 1 run (manual 175W 175W). If you are not getting 39000 you have a problem.

What you describe is bad LM application, you need to redo it

[ElectroStingz]

The thing is when you run a full load on all the cores, including the E-Cores which Cinebench will do, it means they are not running at 5.4GHz on the P-Cores. 

Dynamic loading is more of an issue for games as the cores will hit full boost and with this comes your temperature peaks. Try the CPUz benchmark and see how it compares when the test does the single core run, it should run much hotter than the multi-core test.

[ROGob93nhgrprh5]

What are you talking about ? Cinebench R23 pulls 175W+ for me and it's way more than any dynamic load..

In games my CPU is at 70-75C max 79 , be it silent or performance or turbo. GPU 68-72. My  Scar 16 275HX 5090 NEVER even touch 90-95C. like never. 

98-99C is a faulty unit, he must return becaus his LM was badly applied; I had same 96-101C had to fix it myself. Magically (sacrasm) i lost -30C ! WOWzy

Cinebench pulls 5.1Ghz , same in games. CPU never pulls 5.4Ghz, this is only on few cores but not in games 

Did CPUz benchmark... 60C.. it will never heat up as much as multi core.

[ElectroStingz]

If you monitor the P-Core frequencies during a cinebench load you will see that the P-Cores cannot sustain max boost. This is important as if you were to compare 1 P-Core running at max boost vs that very same P-Core running at 4.5GHz or less, there will be a massive temperature difference. 

For this reason running a cinebench test will never be the same as a game test, games will never use the E-Cores and due to the lighter load and more power being available the P-Cores will have the ability to boost higher. This means greater temperature spikes.

Dynamic loading is when the cores undergo a load that will change randomly and vary the core activity. For example if 8 P-cores are active the CPU will not be able to run full boost, if 6 of those P-Cores go idle, the remaining 2 active cores will then switch to full boost. Games work in a similar manner as they are not placing a constant load on all the 8 P-Cores at the same time. Meaning core load varies and boost will vary accordingly, plus should there be any opportunity for 2 cores to go full boost it will incur a temperature spike. Some games make better use of the cores so this can be less noticeable.

Based on many reviews the 275HX can hit 90+ during normal use: https://www.ultrabookreview.com/71050-asus-rog-scar-16-g635-review

But also I have run many tests on a i9-14900HX to demonstrate how the CPU boosting impacts temperatures, whilst not the same model laptop the functioning and theory is identical and monitoring in real time is the only accurate way to monitor.

CPUZ Temperature Test
https://youtu.be/Y2m6GLV3mFc?si=cIQRXRQO9t7BEMos

Prime95 Single Core Temperature Test
https://youtu.be/k26_4u2wVvw?si=4v1aHGuwM_Wbnfe7

Prime95 Multi Core Temperature Test
https://youtu.be/ixoCkcBSs0s?si=RKjLaD9__0QPjA3W

Cinebench R32 Temperature Test
https://youtu.be/w24rSJpUS6s?si=ep5EBSoCED6sYluy

Gaming (Robocop) Temperature Test
https://youtu.be/Y6Ghrp4aWYs?si=2N3fSy4atw_7ouLy

And also the power share between the GPU and CPU is another limiting factor especially with higher end GPUs that will want to use the full advertised TGP, meaning the CPU can be reduced way less than the 175W Boost limit, if you check your model it's shown as around 80W depending on the GPU load.

So it's not really a straight forward answer when someone asks about temperatures and this is the reason why I have mentioned specifically about average temperature and peak temperature as if someone is only looking at peak readings it doesn't really help. Videos excel in telling a more accurate picture of how the CPU / laptop is performing and my best advice is to always compare the numbers and monitor during usage similar to the videos I have shown. 

I don't dispute that there may be an issue with the temperatures but until it's clear as to what's going on I wouldn't be so quick to jump to a conclusion however 7 months of constant use would probably suggest the liquid metal needs to be checked.

[ROGob93nhgrprh5]

I will not read anything you wrote. I don't care. Bunch of nonsense You speak wrong and give wrong advive. 0 knowledge. Go away from here. Go tell this story to your mum she is waiting you.

That guy has defective unit. Scar G635 or G835 should NOT work at 95C+

Mine do not exceed 79C. , 68-72C average

OP Send laptop BACK ASAP. it's defective, Liquid metal should be re-applied by Asus

[TurboVolt89]

You’re being unnecessarily aggressive and you keep repeating the same claims everywhere without providing any actual proof beyond a few pictures.

Pictures alone do not prove sustained performance or long term thermals. Your claims could very well be inaccurate unless you record a full, uncut benchmark run, for example Cinebench R23, showing clock speeds, total package power, CPU temperatures, and ambient room temperature throughout the entire test.

Not a short burst run. A proper multi core loop that demonstrates sustained performance and sustained temperatures under clearly stated environmental conditions.

Until there is verifiable data with monitoring clearly visible for the full duration, including ambient temperature, it is just anecdotal. Making absolute statements like every unit above 95°C is defective without solid evidence is misleading.

Let’s keep these discussions factual and evidence based instead of making it personal.