Asus GL553VE - CPU/GPU Temperatures while gaming/Throttling

[Sid7886]

Hi Guys,

I purchased Asus GL553VE laptop about a month back..I just wanted to know your temperatures while gaming..While playing games such as Mafia 3, Mass Effect Andromeda, my CPU and GPU temperature both reaches around 82-85 degrees Celsius after 10 minutes of playing. My ambient temperature are close to 35 degrees celsius.

As its a new laptop, therefore i rule out the possibility of thermal paste, dust accumulation, heatsink problems, etc. Also, the airflow out of the heatsink also seems fine to me. I have tried lowering down my CPU processor state/frequency in power state to disable turbo boost, even then the CPU temperature reach around 82 degrees or so.

Could you guys help me in knowing what temperatures do you get while playing similar games and if its normal?

Thanks

[Sid7886]

Hi Bahz..I found out the problem..its due to the motherboard heating up when manual fan boost is used from ROG gaming center..the motherboard reaches 95 degrees or so when manual fan boost is set to 80% from ROG Gaming center.. i guess that's the reason the laptop shuts down as a preventive measure from motherboard getting overheated.

Let me know if you aware of any fan utility for setting up the fan speed other than ROG gaming center..i tried fanspeed, MSI afterburner, however, they do not work on my laptop because of locked BIOS or something.

Cheers

[Bahz]

Sid7886 wrote:
Hi Bahz..I found out the problem..its due to the motherboard heating up when manual fan boost is used from ROG gaming center..the motherboard reaches 95 degrees or so when manual fan boost is set to 80% from ROG Gaming center.. i guess that's the reason the laptop shuts down as a preventive measure from motherboard getting overheated.

Let me know if you aware of any fan utility for setting up the fan speed other than ROG gaming center..i tried fanspeed, MSI afterburner, however, they do not work on my laptop because of locked BIOS or something.

Cheers

Have you tried uninstalling the app altogether? The laptop itself has built in fan control in the BIOS, so technically the software is just to allow you to control fan behavior in Windows.

[Sid7886]

Thanks for sharing your experience xerohunterz..ya i think its normal for this laptop to hit those temps however i would have been happy if they could have restricted the temperature to early 70s with all new technology which these brands keep boasting about (coolboost, thermal cooling) as future games are surely going to be more demanding in terms of graphics..

Another suggestions is that you can try disabling turbo boost from advanced power options for reducing temperatures abit.

Cheers!!**

[Bahz]

Sid7886 wrote:
Thanks for sharing your experience xerohunterz..ya i think its normal for this laptop to hit those temps however i would have been happy if they could have restricted the temperature to early 70s with all new technology which these brands keep boasting about (coolboost, thermal cooling) as future games are surely going to be more demanding in terms of graphics..

Another suggestions is that you can try disabling turbo boost from advanced power options for reducing temperatures abit.

Cheers!!**

This laptop is only 5.51lbs with battery, that's very light for a laptop with these kinds of specs. Looking at any other brand with similar weight and specs, it will have the exact same operating temperature range.

Unfortunately it all comes down to how much heatsink and cooling you can pack into that frame. Software optimization usually does very little and in order for it to achieve any use at all, most of the time it will be down clocking CPU and GPU in order to reduce temperatures. Only new hardware based solutions like the Zephyrus would come into effect to actually reduce temperatures because it's something completely new and it's able to expand out and get more airflow into the system.

[jplucero]

I have GL553VE too purchased 2 days ago and my temps reach between 82-86 while playing prey for less than 10 min. Putting the fan control to max doesnt make any difference. Im quite worried as well if this is actually notmal. How do you guys measure if cpu is throttling?

[Lord_Obsidian]

jplucero wrote:
I have GL553VE too purchased 2 days ago and my temps reach between 82-86 while playing prey for less than 10 min. Putting the fan control to max doesnt make any difference. Im quite worried as well if this is actually notmal. How do you guys measure if cpu is throttling?

Maximising fan speed, actually, does some effort - look at core frequencies, they must rise for ~200 Mhz, from 2500-2600 to 2700-2800 Mhz, although temps do not change. To make it lower your temps you should lower maximum processor state to 99%, thus disabling turbo boost and locking fresquencies at nominal values. Than max fan speed will stable reduce temps for 5-7C.
Even 82-86C is "normal": TS report same temps as you did, I also got such temps (80-85-80-85). Also, asus tech support says that max recommended temp for processor is 85C including. At all, such temps are not smth extraordinary: for example, Acer Aspire VX15 stays 88-89 while playing DooM (however, GTX 1050Ti here goes cooler. ~66-67C).
However, in terms of processor lifespan, cycling near higher 80C (especially 90C) even for mobile CPU seems not so good.
I'm monitoring CPU throttling via "Sensors only" mode in HWInfo64. It has individual cases in table for such purpose:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/Asus/ROG_Strix_GL553VD-DS71/FurMark%20%2B%20Prime%...

[jplucero]

Lord Obsidian wrote:
Maximising fan speed, actually, does some effort - look at core frequencies, they must rise for ~200 Mhz, from 2500-2600 to 2700-2800 Mhz, although temps do not change. To make it lower your temps you should lower maximum processor state to 99%, thus disabling turbo boost and locking fresquencies at nominal values. Than max fan speed will stable reduce temps for 5-7C.
Even 82-86C is "normal": TS report same temps as you did, I also got such temps (80-85-80-85). Also, asus tech support says that max recommended temp for processor is 85C including. At all, such temps are not smth extraordinary: for example, Acer Aspire VX15 stays 88-89 while playing DooM (however, GTX 1050Ti here goes cooler. ~66-67C).
However, in terms of processor lifespan, cycling near higher 80C (especially 90C) even for mobile CPU seems not so good.
I'm monitoring CPU throttling via "Sensors only" mode in HWInfo64. It has individual cases in table for such purpose:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/Asus/ROG_Strix_GL553VD-DS71/FurMark%20%2B%20Prime%...

Thanks Lord Obsidian,

Been reading all your posts about the throttling problem. I followed your advise and set maximum processor state to 99% and indeed it dropped the temperature to ~10C. I think this is a painful solution to prevent frying the cpu at those high temperatures at the cost of perfomance. I hope asus can release a proper solution for it via BIOS update. I also tried the glitch that seems to increase the motherboard temp when u set the asus rog fan speed to less than 100% fortunately it did not shutdown my laptop but I saw the increase in temp in Aida64.

[CosmicAvenger0]

lord obsidian wrote:
maximising fan speed, actually, does some effort - look at core frequencies, they must rise for ~200 mhz, from 2500-2600 to 2700-2800 mhz, although temps do not change. To make it lower your temps you should lower maximum processor state to 99%, thus disabling turbo boost and locking fresquencies at nominal values. Than max fan speed will stable reduce temps for 5-7c.
Even 82-86c is "normal": Ts report same temps as you did, i also got such temps (80-85-80-85). Also, asus tech support says that max recommended temp for processor is 85c including. At all, such temps are not smth extraordinary: For example, acer aspire vx15 stays 88-89 while playing doom (however, gtx 1050ti here goes cooler. ~66-67c).
However, in terms of processor lifespan, cycling near higher 80c (especially 90c) even for mobile cpu seems not so good.
I'm monitoring cpu throttling via "sensors only" mode in hwinfo64. It has individual cases in table for such purpose:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/notebooks/asus/rog_strix_gl553vd-ds71/furmark%20%2b%20prime%...

have you tried thermal repasting

[CosmicAvenger0]

HAVE ANYONE TRIED DOING THERMAL REPASTING ; BECAUSE APPLYING SOFTWARES TWEAKS ARE NOT AFFECTING ANYTHING & EVEN AFTER USING THE OPOLAR COOLER THERE IS NOT MUCH EFFECT AND MY TEMPS ARE STILL GETTING AT 88C MAX , HOVERING AROUND AT 82-86C FOR MY CPU AND SAME GOES FOR GPU.
PUBG IS HITTING THIS LAPTOP HARD EVEN RUNNING AT 50-60 FPS AFTER SOME TIME IT STARTS GETTING LOW AT AROUND 45 FPS, STILL GETTING EVEN LOWER IN INTENSE SCENES, & EVEN FOR OTHER HIGH DEMANDING GAMES.
I HAVE EVEN NOTICED FANS GETTING WORKED UP JUST WHILE DOING NORMAL TASKS BECAUSE OF CPU; THE MAIN PROBLEM HERE IN GL553 IS BECAUSE OF CPU I GUESS, BECAUSE EVEN WHEN PLAYING GAMES CPU'S IS GETING HOTTER THAN GPU EVEN THOUGH GAMES ARE NOT MUCH CPU DEPENDANT. THIS IS NOT JUST MY CASE BUT I HAVE SEEN THIS THING IN MY FRIEND'S LAPTOP ALSO AND MANY OTHERS RUNNING SAME MODEL...
SO IF ANYONE TRIED DOING THERMAL REPASTING PLS LET ME KNOW HOW WELL IT DOES, BECAUSE OUT OF FACTORY THERMAL PASTING IS NOT GOOD, EVEN FOR OTHER MANUFACTURERS & NOT JUST ASUS ROG.
I HAVE TRIED ALL SOFTWARE TUINING i.e. iNTEL XTU, CHANGING POWER PLANS SETTING & ALL THAT AND CAME TO CONCLUSION THAT IT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE. SO THE ONLY OPTION LEFT OUT IS THERMAL REPASTING HERE!!!!

[Lord_Obsidian]

1) BECAUSE APPLYING SOFTWARES TWEAKS ARE NOT AFFECTING ANYTHING

If turbo boost disable is considered software tweak, then it fixes alot in mine. In Dark Souls 3.
Maximum processor state = 99% (i.e. max frequency = 2394 Mhz): GPU temperature = 75°C, CPU temperature = 75-77°C, 80°C maximum.
Maximum processor state = 99% + FanBoost at Max (5200RPM): GPU temperature = 70°C, CPU temperature = 70°C, both stable ( not even hitting 75°C).
FPS mostly the same in Dark souls 3 (except one location).

2)I HAVE EVEN NOTICED FANS GETTING WORKED UP JUST WHILE DOING NORMAL TASKS BECAUSE OF CPU

What exactly do you mean? What fan RPM you got? I got 2000 RPM rarely going to 2600 RPM with Turbo Boost disabled and 2600RPM with shifts to 3200RPM with enabled Turbo Boost. For me noise at 2600 RPM is hardly audible.

3) THE MAIN PROBLEM HERE IN GL553 IS BECAUSE OF CPU I GUESS
Main problem is common heatsinks for GPU and CPU and only one fan (nonetheless, with big radiator). However, this cooling circuit handles CPU alone: I got 55-60°C on computing tasks (PIV & image recognition), with constant TurboBoost, i.e. stable 3,1 Ghz CPU frequency and ~70% CPU usage (fan goes 3200-3600 RPM).

5) BECAUSE EVEN WHEN PLAYING GAMES CPU'S IS GETING HOTTER THAN GPU EVEN THOUGH GAMES ARE NOT MUCH CPU DEPENDANT

If you check FPS tests, you will that GPU temps is often lower then CPUs'.

4) SO IF ANYONE TRIED DOING THERMAL REPASTING PLS LET ME KNOW HOW WELL IT DOES

I did not, but I read an article in one technoportal (it's in Russian, so I think it makes no sense to give a link) about repasting GL553VE with Coollaboratory Liquid MetalPad. Author claims that in LinX 0.7.0 he achieved decrease in maximum processor temperature for 4°C (from 88°C to 84°C) and also throttling was reduced: he reports that before repasting average frequency was 2,8 Ghz with drops to 800Mhz and after freqs were 3,0-3,4 Ghz with no drops. However, screenshots he presented (before and after) showed no significant changes in frequencies, but in LinX 0.7.0 window there is increase in "GFlops" tab, from 134 to 150+.
After repasting in Witcher 3 GPU handles 1709 Mhz instead of 1696 Mhz before.
I met information that in long-term period liquid metal pads for notebooks can have negative consequences.

P.S.: Please, do not use Caps Lock in a such way. It did not make your post more clear, and for some users it is as impolite as shouting in your ear.