09-29-2020 08:52 AM
09-29-2020 11:30 AM
09-29-2020 02:31 PM
Undanup wrote:
I have recently purchased this 2020 model and reaching temperatures up to 96°C por CPU and 87°C for GPU during gaming in turbo mode. It stabilizes between 92-95°C for CPU and 85-87°C por GPU, I have no flow obstructions and room temp is 20-25°C, it doesn't get better when I elevate the laptop . According to ASUS i should be getting better thermals since all 2020 models pack liquid metal cooling. In silent profile it can stay between 85-87°C for CPU and 74-78 for GPU, but this mode has a big impact on performance.
I have the latest BIOS, all windows and driver updates. I have been reaching to technical support in my ASUS account, but at this moment they are reccomending to reinstall windows, before I do that I would like to know if someone here has more information on wheter this is normal for this laptop model, or if you think a fresh Windows install will improve thermals.
Thanks in advance.
09-29-2020 07:39 PM
09-29-2020 08:34 PM
craig_cabbage wrote:
I also have the G732LWS, and I have this issue. There's no way this can be normal. I've reinstalled the OS since I've had it, it does absolutely nothing.
I'm going to look into the Intel tuning thing that Desani talked about, that's the most helpful bit I've seen yet.
I'd be interested in knowing how the 2080 SUPER version fairs, being that it has 4 fan exhausts.
09-29-2020 08:46 PM
Desani wrote:
I would recommend attempting the adjustments with Throttlestop rather than Intel® Extreme Tuning Utility. Intel's utility is more user friendly but I found that it caused more system instability.
To replicate my settings in throttlestop you would need to do the following:
Run a quick benchmark with hardware info monitoring the CPU and GPU for an accurate before picture
Download and unzip throttlestop
Launch throttlestop and click the button Turn on at the bottom of the window. That activate throttlestop settings and turns off monitoring mode.
We are going to ignore most of the values as the BIOS does not allow you to modify some of the important values that other guides online tell you to change.
The only values that I changed are in TPL menu.
In the TPL menu the first two items are the long and short power max values. Change the long value from 45 to 35. Change the short value from 125 to 100. I left the turbo time limit alone. The value that is going to make the most difference is the long time value. I enabled clap on both of these settings, from what I have read clap tells the processor to attempt to keep the values below or at the value supplied.
Once the new values are inserted, click okay and with throttlestop turned on, the change is immediate.
Run another benchmark with the new settings and make sure it runs for at least a couple of minutes. You know notice that after the first spike that lasts 56 seconds, the temperature will slowly decrease over time and settle on a value that should be lower than before because of the wattage limit. On my laptop, that took the overall temperature from the high 80's and put it in the high 70's. It might vary from computer to computer so play with the values that keep the temperature to a value you are okay with. Once you are satisfied with the new limit you can google on how to apply the throttlestop setting on each OS startup and then the values will always be applied.
Surprisingly enough, I have heard that the 2060, 2080, 2070 Super Max Q don't have as much of a temperature issue because the of the lower wattage of the 2060 and the 2070 max q card and the better cooling on the 2080. I have no idea if that is actually true though, it just seems that most people facing this issue have a fast Intel cpu and a 2070 super running at 115 watts.
09-30-2020 06:35 PM
Desani wrote:
I would recommend attempting the adjustments with Throttlestop rather than Intel® Extreme Tuning Utility. Intel's utility is more user friendly but I found that it caused more system instability.
To replicate my settings in throttlestop you would need to do the following:
Run a quick benchmark with hardware info monitoring the CPU and GPU for an accurate before picture
Download and unzip throttlestop
Launch throttlestop and click the button Turn on at the bottom of the window. That activate throttlestop settings and turns off monitoring mode.
We are going to ignore most of the values as the BIOS does not allow you to modify some of the important values that other guides online tell you to change.
The only values that I changed are in TPL menu.
In the TPL menu the first two items are the long and short power max values. Change the long value from 45 to 35. Change the short value from 125 to 100. I left the turbo time limit alone. The value that is going to make the most difference is the long time value. I enabled clap on both of these settings, from what I have read clap tells the processor to attempt to keep the values below or at the value supplied.
Once the new values are inserted, click okay and with throttlestop turned on, the change is immediate.
Run another benchmark with the new settings and make sure it runs for at least a couple of minutes. You know notice that after the first spike that lasts 56 seconds, the temperature will slowly decrease over time and settle on a value that should be lower than before because of the wattage limit. On my laptop, that took the overall temperature from the high 80's and put it in the high 70's. It might vary from computer to computer so play with the values that keep the temperature to a value you are okay with. Once you are satisfied with the new limit you can google on how to apply the throttlestop setting on each OS startup and then the values will always be applied.
Surprisingly enough, I have heard that the 2060, 2080, 2070 Super Max Q don't have as much of a temperature issue because the of the lower wattage of the 2060 and the 2070 max q card and the better cooling on the 2080. I have no idea if that is actually true though, it just seems that most people facing this issue have a fast Intel cpu and a 2070 super running at 115 watts.
Edit: Pictures!
Example of Throttlestop settings:
Example of thermals over a 10 minute period I did as a quick demo with the new settings. These are lower than what I typically have because of the lower ambient temperature. GPU hovered around 67°C and CPU hovered around 77°C:
10-04-2020 04:35 PM
Desani wrote:
I would recommend attempting the adjustments with Throttlestop rather than Intel® Extreme Tuning Utility. Intel's utility is more user friendly but I found that it caused more system instability.
To replicate my settings in throttlestop you would need to do the following:
Run a quick benchmark with hardware info monitoring the CPU and GPU for an accurate before picture
Download and unzip throttlestop
Launch throttlestop and click the button Turn on at the bottom of the window. That activate throttlestop settings and turns off monitoring mode.
We are going to ignore most of the values as the BIOS does not allow you to modify some of the important values that other guides online tell you to change.
The only values that I changed are in TPL menu.
In the TPL menu the first two items are the long and short power max values. Change the long value from 45 to 35. Change the short value from 125 to 100. I left the turbo time limit alone. The value that is going to make the most difference is the long time value. I enabled clap on both of these settings, from what I have read clap tells the processor to attempt to keep the values below or at the value supplied.
Once the new values are inserted, click okay and with throttlestop turned on, the change is immediate.
Run another benchmark with the new settings and make sure it runs for at least a couple of minutes. You know notice that after the first spike that lasts 56 seconds, the temperature will slowly decrease over time and settle on a value that should be lower than before because of the wattage limit. On my laptop, that took the overall temperature from the high 80's and put it in the high 70's. It might vary from computer to computer so play with the values that keep the temperature to a value you are okay with. Once you are satisfied with the new limit you can google on how to apply the throttlestop setting on each OS startup and then the values will always be applied.
Surprisingly enough, I have heard that the 2060, 2080, 2070 Super Max Q don't have as much of a temperature issue because the of the lower wattage of the 2060 and the 2070 max q card and the better cooling on the 2080. I have no idea if that is actually true though, it just seems that most people facing this issue have a fast Intel cpu and a 2070 super running at 115 watts.
Edit: Pictures!
Example of Throttlestop settings:
Example of thermals over a 10 minute period I did as a quick demo with the new settings. These are lower than what I typically have because of the lower ambient temperature. GPU hovered around 67°C and CPU hovered around 77°C:
10-04-2020 05:30 PM
craig_cabbage wrote:
So one thing different is my default PP0 Current Limit is set to 200, and yours is 0, do I need to change that or does it not matter you think?
PC Benchmark only lowered my bench from around 7100 to 6900 after playing with these settings. Gonna try it in the real world a few days to see if we notice any difference.
Seems like this will be very helpful. Now ASUS really needs to look into this.
PP0 refers to the power limit of the CPU cores, and only the CPU cores. It does not include other things in the CPU such as cache, memory controller, integrated graphics and so on.
The PP0 Current Limit in ThrottleStop is set to 0. This usually means that this setting is not being used. Your CPU will only use as much current as it needs to use so setting this high is not going to hurt anything.
10-06-2020 04:33 PM