Should I get the ASUS ROG Swift PG278Q?

[moeze]

I've been doing a research for quiet a while now, I am building a new pc with GTX970 and I am looking for a 1440p gaming monitor. Firstly I came across the PB278Q however many people said that it suffers from ghosting and it is 60hz so I wasn't really interested so then I came across the ASUS ROG Swift PG278Q which looked like a great overall monitor but the reviews killed my hype. Are the problems really frequent amongst buyers?

Should I get it or just wait since there isn't any good 1440p gaming monitors out yet.

[zimzoid]

My September made swift has been working flawlessly so far very happy.

[Bal]

Holy mother chucking ****. I decided to buy this thing, but I am please I did not right away.

Now specs are unbelievable and it is a revolutionary screen for sure, but I've seen a lot of people cry, here and on Amazon too.

I'm now really in doubt, and unhappy.

[Dave6479]

I was really concerned reading up on these forums here and over at Guru3d regarding problems some user had with the Swift and I'm really shocked at some of the RMA handling with customer service. I have only just received my Swift today and I was actually in two minds to just send it back to Overclockers UK unopened as an unwanted Xmas present. I can now officially say I'm weak and resisted a whole 10min and had to try it out and so far so good. No dead pixels, back light bleed seems at a minimum and the Gsync while playing BF4 is amazing, I have never seen my cards push out 90+ usage during a game and not rip the screen to shreds as this monitor replaced my 60Hz Dell U2711 (now retired to the PS4).
I hadn't seen a monitor run over 60Hz (excluding the DK2) and I never believed it until now but the difference even on desktop is like night and day.

EDIT : Just had a check and it's a November make.

[Duke_of_Alinor]

If you have the hardware to hold up 60Hz at all times I recommend:
ASUS PB287Q 28-Inch Screen LED-Lit 4K Monitor

144Hz at 1080 is all well and good, but I prefer 4K, the problem is if you don't have the hardware to push it, you need SLI or Crossifre and top end cards.
Christmas is here and I am gaming with friends, so far my 4K pushed by two 290x DCUOC with 10% OC is the favorite. We are playing WoW, Counterstrike and Firefall. The 4K is looking better than the gsync 24 inchers and 27 inch at 144Hz at 1080. No one here has a 1440 at 144Hz working.

[Bal]

Hello Alinor,

I have a GTX 980 STRIX, maximus vii formula, i7 4790k 16GB ram.

Do you think this build would pull 4k monitor at 60hz? and can you advise how would the fps be for wow?

Merry Christmas everyone

[Zanthra]

Bal wrote:
Hello Alinor,

I have a GTX 980 STRIX, maximus vii formula, i7 4790k 16GB ram.

Do you think this build would pull 4k monitor at 60hz? and can you advise how would the fps be for wow?

Merry Christmas everyone

In World of Warcraft, with my Reference GTX 980, I consistently get above 60FPS even with pretty high graphics settings (usually around 100 but it depends on what I am doing) using DSR 4x for 5120x2880 on the ROG Swift. That's with a i7 980X processor and 24GB RAM. I can't see any reason you would have trouble with 4K in WoW.

I personally would not give up 144hz for 4k. I see a lot of people who have had to decide between the ROG Swift and a 4K monitor, and for me going to 144Hz max was the real point of buying this monitor, and the G-Sync and 1440p resolution really sealed the deal, going to 4k at 60hz would be a step back. I am very happy with my monitor so far.

[Bal]

Starrbuck wrote:
I don't think you could get that high FPS in 4K with a single 980.

I've been using 1440p for a while so a 1080p is out for me. My RoG Swift will be here on Monday. 😄

Hope it won't suck somehow, let us know how it goes! 😄

Zanthra wrote:
In World of Warcraft, with my Reference GTX 980, I consistently get above 60FPS even with pretty high graphics settings (usually around 100 but it depends on what I am doing) using DSR 4x for 5120x2880 on the ROG Swift. That's with a i7 980X processor and 24GB RAM. I can't see any reason you would have trouble with 4K in WoW.

I personally would not give up 144hz for 4k. I see a lot of people who have had to decide between the ROG Swift and a 4K monitor, and for me going to 144Hz max was the real point of buying this monitor, and the G-Sync and 1440p resolution really sealed the deal, going to 4k at 60hz would be a step back. I am very happy with my monitor so far.

Well it is a big conflict right now because I love high resolution but having G-sync and 144Hz would be a game changer..

What is DSR? How did you get 5120x2880 on rog swift? o-O

[Zanthra]

Bal wrote:
Hope it won't suck somehow, let us know how it goes! 😄



Well it is a big conflict right now because I love high resolution but having G-sync and 144Hz would be a game changer..

What is DSR? How did you get 5120x2880 on rog swift? o-O

DSR is Dynamic Super Resolution. Basically it's a mode that lets the graphics card render to a larger framebuffer, in this case 5120x2880 or 4x total pixels, and then it scales it down for display on the screen. This provides not just edge anti-aliasing, but also texture, shader, effect, 2D image, text, and post processing anti-aliasing, but takes more GPU power and Memory. It does not increase the display resolution, just tricks the graphics engine into providing more data to work with to provide the final image.

Not every game can really use it however, since the game has to be able to scale the UI to about 2x height and width. I find that Blizzard games are very good at UI Scaling (such that going from 2560x1440 to 5120x2880 has almost zero impact on UI element size and location), while other games, even ones with UI scale options (Guild Wars 2 for example) don't let you scale up enough, and end up difficult to read at 4x (4x is the only sharp DSR mode, as every 4 framebuffer pixels map perfectly to one display pixel). There is still also the issue of mouse cursor speed, as you have to move the mouse twice as far (from the computer's point of view), so the mouse must be moved twice as far to go the same distance onscreen.

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dsr/technology

While it improves quality in just about all areas, I find it most noticeable in refractions such as those used when looking into water in video games. Normally the scene underwater is rendered, then the refraction squishes or stretches pixels around to provide the effect. If an area of pixels is stretched, there are some pretty bad scaling artifacts since there is not enough resolution in the original to cover the new area. With DSR there is enough resolution, and textures and edges come out crystal clear even through water.

[X-ROG]

Zanthra wrote:

I personally would not give up 144hz for 4k. I see a lot of people who have had to decide between the ROG Swift and a 4K monitor, and for me going to 144Hz max was the real point of buying this monitor, and the G-Sync and 1440p resolution really sealed the deal, going to 4k at 60hz would be a step back. I am very happy with my monitor so far.

144Hz at 4K is currently impossible until we get more display bandwidth. DP1.2/HDMI 2.0 provides the most bandwidth, but is still not enough for >60Hz at 4K. In fact, HDMI 2.0 has even less bandwidth than older DP 1.2. Apple use a custom solution to drive 5K@60Hz on its iMac.

DP 1.3 will bring more bandwidth suitable for 4K@120Hz:

DisplayPort version 1.3 was released on September 15, 2014. This standard increases overall transmission bandwidth to 32.4 Gbit/s with the new HBR3 mode featuring 8.1 Gbit/s per lane (up from 5.4 Gbit/s with HBR2 in version 1.2), totalling 25.92 Gbit/s with overhead removed.

4K@60Hz requires 11.96Gbit/s, and 120Hz is double that at 23.92Gbit/s, but 144Hz is 28.704Gbit/s, which is beyond even DP1.3 spec.

Since we already push the G-Sync chip to its limit in the WQHD/144Hz Swift (it has to work ~7% harder than 4K@60Hz) you will need to wait for Nvidia's next generation G-Sync chip for this reason and DP1.3 reasons (don't ask me when that is), as well as LCD panel makers to develop fast 4K panels before 4K@ >60Hz arrives.

[Duke_of_Alinor]

MarshallR@ASUS wrote:
144Hz at 4K is currently impossible until we get more display bandwidth. DP1.2/HDMI 2.0 provides the most bandwidth, but is still not enough for >60Hz at 4K. In fact, HDMI 2.0 has even less bandwidth than older DP 1.2. Apple use a custom solution to drive 5K@60Hz on its iMac.
Since we already push the G-Sync chip to its limit in the WQHD/144Hz Swift (it has to work ~7% harder than 4K@60Hz) you will need to wait for Nvidia's next generation G-Sync chip for this reason and DP1.3 reasons (don't ask me when that is), as well as LCD panel makers to develop fast 4K panels before 4K@ >60Hz arrives.

Pretty much true. Freesync will hopefully save us by not adding special processing by a proprietary chip.
60 HZ 4K gaming is alive and well RIGHT NOW if you have a pair of 290x and 10% OC or better. Some games will not hold 60Hz with full eye candy. DP 1.2 does push enough bandwidth for 4K 60 Hz, but it is close to its limit.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/iiyama-b2888uhsu-b1-freesync-monitor,news-49450.html
Maybe Asus has the same card up its sleeve?
Freesync with a free firmware upgrade on the PB287Q?