Should I get the ASUS ROG Swift PG278Q?

[moeze]

I've been doing a research for quiet a while now, I am building a new pc with GTX970 and I am looking for a 1440p gaming monitor. Firstly I came across the PB278Q however many people said that it suffers from ghosting and it is 60hz so I wasn't really interested so then I came across the ASUS ROG Swift PG278Q which looked like a great overall monitor but the reviews killed my hype. Are the problems really frequent amongst buyers?

Should I get it or just wait since there isn't any good 1440p gaming monitors out yet.

[Zanthra]

MarshallR@ASUS wrote:
144Hz at 4K is currently impossible until we get more display bandwidth. DP1.2/HDMI 2.0 provides the most bandwidth, but is still not enough for >60Hz at 4K. In fact, HDMI 2.0 has even less bandwidth than older DP 1.2. Apple use a custom solution to drive 5K@60Hz on its iMac.

DP 1.3 will bring more bandwidth suitable for 4K@120Hz:



4K@60Hz requires 11.96Gbit/s, and 120Hz is double that at 23.92Gbit/s, but 144Hz is 28.704Gbit/s, which is beyond even DP1.3 spec.

Since we already push the G-Sync chip to its limit in the WQHD/144Hz Swift (it has to work ~7% harder than 4K@60Hz) you will need to wait for Nvidia's next generation G-Sync chip for this reason and DP1.3 reasons (don't ask me when that is), as well as LCD panel makers to develop fast 4K panels before 4K@ >60Hz arrives.

Yeah, the data rate will always be partitioned between resolution and refresh rate. Those who want the highest resolution available for any link will be stuck on 60hz (or lower). 4K will be out at 120, and 5k monitors will be there for 60hz. When 5k goes to 120, 8k will be available at 60. Apple can do a lot of crazy things when they build the computer and the display together.

I will almost always choose the lower resolution, higher refresh displays for gaming. Comparing the Swift to 4k monitors is fine, but it's like comparing apples to oranges. The Swift is probably the best you can get as a high refresh rate monitor at this point.

Note that while the brain starts losing the perception of individual frames in motion blurred material at about 30hz, and the rods stop sensing flickering about 60hz, there are two major things that make high refresh rate gaming really fantastic. The first is that there are more points in time the game is rendered at, where everything is stopped and fixed, that your eye will blend together into a smoother image (like the illusion of multiple mouse cursors when you move the mouse quickly across the screen, as the refresh rate rises, more and more cursors would appear, fainter and fainter, until it's one motion blurred streak).

The second is how your vision deals with that natural motion blur. If your eye is tracking something onscreen, it creates some motion blur as the eye pans across each still frame (the image of the frame is blurred by it's opposite motion across the retina). The shorter each frame is visible for, the less motion blur. This smooth pursuit is used naturally to prevent motion blur by matching the motion of the eye to the motion of an object, so that it's image remains steady on the retina (usually the fovea), you can then make out details and identify the object. In computer graphics this can be fixed even better with ULMB by strobing the backlight to minimize the distance the eye travels while the frame is visible (the image only appears for a split second, and if your eye is tracking at the right speed, the next will appear for a split second in the same place on the retina creating a clear image for the brain to process).

This all vastly improves the experience, especially in high motion games where tracking an object onscreen, such as a target you are brining weapon sights onto, is important. You can use your instinctual, natural processes for dealing with motion. After having played games at high refresh rates, it would be hard to go back, and I hope in time that 240hz and higher may become available.

[Duke_of_Alinor]

Although what Zantra said is true he misses what is more important to me - detail. 1440 is about a minimum for me to play with, 4k is what I normally use. Why? I can see that sniper in the weeds, I can see the treasure in the bones, I can see the path up a hill, all from a greater distance.
It comes down to how you play, if you are in a frag room you need more than 60 Hz, but I like to play in the open and 60 Hz is fine. Being able to see further due to better detail is what I like.

[Starrbuck]

I bet in WoW you would be fine for a sustained 60 FPS, except in cities or large raids.

[Bal]

What thats too low >< I need ultra and about 100fps. in large raids need minimum around ultra 70 fps.

then I guess 1080p 144hz will be my choice.. T_T

[Starrbuck]

Bal wrote:
What thats too low >< I need ultra and about 100fps. in large raids need minimum around ultra 70 fps.

then I guess 1080p 144hz will be my choice.. T_T

I don't think you could get that high FPS in 4K with a single 980.

I've been using 1440p for a while so a 1080p is out for me. My RoG Swift will be here on Monday. 😄

[Costas]

I have owned my Swift since August and just for a laugh.... the other day I switched my Swift back down to 60Hz and disabled G-Sync. I normally have it set tp 144Hz and use G-Sync.

I then proceeded to play BF4.

ARGGGHHHH it felt terrible. I can't believe I used to play at those settings just a few months back....!

There is simply no going back once you become acustomed to a higher refresh rate. G-Sync is icing on the cake.

[Bal]

So fellas.. I've been doing research for quite some time, despite all the negativity and problems, I have ordered a rog swift, it will arrive on Wednesday.

I am freaking out if it will have an issue and I will have to ship it back etc.. bought it from Amazon.de, and also was sold thru Amazon, at least I trust them.. This thing cost €*749, you can buy a old car for that. If it has a **** on it, shame on you Asus.

I will update here when I receive ad test.

Cheers

[cmd1980]

I have one and I think the 144 hz is worth it at 2 k against a 4k 60 hz monitor for gaming. The build quality is great and I have had no issues.

[Bal]

Monitor is delivered to me last Friday, packaging is good but they sent me the first serie probably, it is stated June on the papers. WHY!

And you can notice there are very light couple scratches around power button, only noticeable when you look very closely, they are on the edge. WTF. That just annoyed me. How can this be?

I still could not test it because the processor is being delivered on Monday. I will put everything together and tell you how it goes. I am ready to ignore those marks if it functions flawlessly..

[reystar22]

Do NOT buy this low quality monitor that rapes your wallet. Mine broke in a month