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Neon_Lights
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MarshallR wrote:
Just checked: PG27 production starts now in May, so mid/late May/early June for first markets depending on how it's being shipped.

Not sure X series yet. It's often mostly waiting for mass-production of panel availability and/or mass production to meet a certain quality standard.

For the record: Monitors don't wait for graphics cards. They just launch on their own schedule.*





My original post:

https://www.inet.se/produkt/2210502/acer-27-predator-x27-4k-144hz-hdr-g-sync-quantum-dot

On this retailer site, the Acer Predator X27 is listed as to be shipped April 5th. Because ASUS usually release their version a little earlier than Acer/the other manufacturers, it is likely that the PG27UQ will be released (assuming that shipping date is correct) during March, this would also still stick to the Q1 2018 release window.


For reference, see the posts in this thread:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1620061/vc-asus-announces-swift-pg27uq-4k-ips-144hz-g-sync-hdr-monitor/10...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1620061/vc-asus-announces-swift-pg27uq-4k-ips-144hz-g-sync-hdr-monitor/11...
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As you brought up, MarshallR, there's apparently a PG27 normal series and an X series. Are you able to tell us what the difference between the two versions are, including which is more expensive?

Also is it possible for you to tell us the bare minimum price of the monitors will be in USD for America? Because europe prices for tech have always been more expensive and adjusting for currency displays this difference.

Thank you

ICYMI, 2 tech review sites have picked up on this and listed the prices on their site.

Turns out the Acer Predator is also coming around the same time. Anyway:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12637/acer-and-asus-gsync-hdr-displays-listed-and-priced

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia-g-sync-hdr-pricing
ASUS Z270 Maximus IX Formula / i7-7700K 4.5GHz / ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 TUF GAMING OC / ASUS PG27UQ / 64 GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200MHz @ CL 14 / Samsung 960 Pro 512 GB / Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB / Seagate 12 TB BarraCuda Pro Helium / LG BH16NS55 / Corsair AX1200i / Window 10 Pro 64-Bit

I was really wanting one of these but these prices what were they smoking?

KevinMaster wrote:
As you brought up, MarshallR, there's apparently a PG27 normal series and an X series. Are you able to tell us what the difference between the two versions are, including which is more expensive?

Also is it possible for you to tell us the bare minimum price of the monitors will be in USD for America? Because europe prices for tech have always been more expensive and adjusting for currency displays this difference.

Thank you


We don't comment on unannounced products and there's always potential products in development.

KOT0005 wrote:
but its not 4k HDR at 144hz, only 98Hz.


Well, there's a *
It is, but its 422, because there's simply not enough cable bandwidth. [Most TVs aren't 444 either.]
Another way to think of it: very fast SDR gaming (b/c not every title will translate well into HDR), fast HDR gaming and great for HDR media and applicable for prosumer use.


Thread title was changed to just keep it simple as the discussion here is broad.

briansu wrote:
ICYMI, 2 tech review sites have picked up on this and listed the prices on their site.

Turns out the Acer Predator is also coming around the same time. Anyway:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12637/acer-and-asus-gsync-hdr-displays-listed-and-priced

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia-g-sync-hdr-pricing



It is, but ROG will hit the market before stinky Acer. :);)

MarshallR wrote:
We don't comment on unannounced products and there's always potential products in development.



Well, there's a *
It is, but its 422, because there's simply not enough cable bandwidth. [Most TVs aren't 444 either.]
Another way to think of it: very fast SDR gaming (b/c not every title will translate well into HDR), fast HDR gaming and great for HDR media and applicable for prosumer use.


Thread title was changed to just keep it simple as the discussion here is broad.


I'm fine with 98hz. No way I can push framerate past 98 at 4K anyway.

I just hope the HDR is great, no QC problem like PG279Q and the price is around $2000.

Should we expect the FALD performance is as good as the best FALD TV today, which is Sony Z9D? That TV also has hundreds of zones and only 92% DCI-P3, but it is true 10-bit and >1000 nits of brightness. Reviews show little to no blooming and haloing.

Hi,

As I haven’t been in possession of one of these high performance displays, could someone please help me out with these *questions:

1) will running at 444 instead of 422 result in lower frame rate in games or will the FPS be unaffected?

2) what happens when one tries to select a setting combination that exceeds their cable’s bandwidth?

Thanks. *
ASUS Z270 Maximus IX Formula / i7-7700K 4.5GHz / ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 TUF GAMING OC / ASUS PG27UQ / 64 GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200MHz @ CL 14 / Samsung 960 Pro 512 GB / Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB / Seagate 12 TB BarraCuda Pro Helium / LG BH16NS55 / Corsair AX1200i / Window 10 Pro 64-Bit

deadchip12 wrote:
I'm fine with 98hz. No way I can push framerate past 98 at 4K anyway.

I just hope the HDR is great, no QC problem like PG279Q and the price is around $2000.

Should we expect the FALD performance is as good as the best FALD TV today, which is Sony Z9D? That TV also has hundreds of zones and only 92% DCI-P3, but it is true 10-bit and >1000 nits of brightness. Reviews show little to no blooming and haloing.


I am checking the zoning of the 384 backlight. Not had a reply yet.

briansu wrote:
Hi,

As I haven’t been in possession of one of these high performance displays, could someone please help me out with these *questions:

1) will running at 444 instead of 422 result in lower frame rate in games or will the FPS be unaffected?

2) what happens when one tries to select a setting combination that exceeds their cable’s bandwidth?

Thanks. *


Chroma subsampling doesn't affect FPS at all. It's an automatic adjustment by the system, you just select the frequency and the drivers do the rest. You can check in the PG27 OSD and it will tell you precisely what is running : res, HDR/SDR and what color setting. This is a double-check method to confirm Windows --> Display say the same thing.

Explained: https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/chroma-subsampling
You'll notice it in text because of the high PPI - so not advisable for everyday use, just use 98. In fast games because you're too busy wrapped up in the action you'll not notice it, so run 144 and get that edge - you're probably turning down the game IQ anyway to hit 4K/144 as it's 144% more pixel throughput/second than 4K/60. If you're playing a text heavy game, run it at 98. Horses for courses, basically.

MarshallR wrote:
I am checking the zoning of the 384 backlight. Not had a reply yet.


Hmm what do you mean by zoning? It has 384 backlight dimming zones right?

EDIT: seems like Z9D can cover around 96% DCI-P3, so a little bit more than PG27UQ.

deadchip12 wrote:
EDIT: seems like Z9D can cover around 96% DCI-P3, so a little bit more than PG27UQ.


Slower panel, higher latency and g2g response, not designed for gaming. Plus you've got the "SmartTV" Android overhead X_X
PA32UC can hit 95, but it's professional not gaming: https://www.asus.com/Monitors/PA32UC/

EDIT: The Sony has similar tech to the PA - 14-bit lookup table and "TRILUMINOS™ Display" is the same Quantum Dot film.
EDIT2: OMG now I'm shopping around and did you see the power consumption figures! Maybe I'm not upgrading the home TV just yet https://www.sony.com/electronics/televisions/xbr-z9d-series/specifications

MarshallR wrote:
Sony has similar tech to the PA - 14-bit lookup table and "TRILUMINOS™ Display" is the same Quantum Dot film.


hmm interesting

You also mentioned earlier we can change the FALD speed in PG27UQ? Why do users want to do that?