Pg27uq

[Neon_Lights]

MarshallR wrote:
Just checked: PG27 production starts now in May, so mid/late May/early June for first markets depending on how it's being shipped.

Not sure X series yet. It's often mostly waiting for mass-production of panel availability and/or mass production to meet a certain quality standard.

For the record: Monitors don't wait for graphics cards. They just launch on their own schedule.*

My original post:

https://www.inet.se/produkt/2210502/acer-27-predator-x27-4k-144hz-hdr-g-sync-quantum-dot

On this retailer site, the Acer Predator X27 is listed as to be shipped April 5th. Because ASUS usually release their version a little earlier than Acer/the other manufacturers, it is likely that the PG27UQ will be released (assuming that shipping date is correct) during March, this would also still stick to the Q1 2018 release window.


For reference, see the posts in this thread:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1620061/vc-asus-announces-swift-pg27uq-4k-ips-144hz-g-sync-hdr-monitor/10...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1620061/vc-asus-announces-swift-pg27uq-4k-ips-144hz-g-sync-hdr-monitor/11...

[bubba123]

kevinmaster5000 wrote:
Search "PG27UQ Fan" on youtube and you'll see plenty of examples. I opted to buy the C27HG70 by samsung. It's basically just as good, if not better (with a better contrast ratio) during SDR. 4K resolution is of course better, but at 27inch, there differen is practically negligible. It has HDR with 8 dimming zones and 600 nits, obviously pale in comparison to the PG27UQ, but you're only paying a fourth of the price. No GSync either, but you dont need GSync if you have a 1080ti on 1440p. In other words, the PG27UQ is literaly only better for HDR, something that isn't even common yet on PC. By the time it is common, we'll have miniLED panels, or even microLED.

Callsign Vega

1 month ago
You mounted the VESA bracket backwards, that's why the fan was louder. The bracket is designed to give a spacer/gap to let the fan breath. You may want to edit the video.

[kevinmaster5000]

bubba123 wrote:
Callsign Vega

1 month ago
You mounted the VESA bracket backwards, that's why the fan was louder. The bracket is designed to give a spacer/gap to let the fan breath. You may want to edit the video.

I did not have a VESA bracket.

deadchip12 wrote:
I believe if you turn on local dimming in SDR mode on PG27UQ, its contrast ratio can get to around 6000:1, which is double of C27HG70.

This might be true, but it is unrealistic. Remember, it's not like OLED where you create a contrast between pixels in a single spot. The 6000:1 ratio would be comparing a pixel on totally different parts of the screen due to the zones covering such a huge amount of pixels. Like the C27HG70 has 8 dimming zones and can achieve 20000:1 contrast ratio in HDR, but it's pretty bull**** cause it would be only between a pixel on the left side of the screen compared to the right. tl;dr, local dimming only helps if the contrast is between different regions on the monitor. This would improve alot more with miniLED and microLED, which is why I'm perfectly fine with waiting a bit more while I use my curved CHG70 (I like the curve lol).

[deadchip12]

kevinmaster5000 wrote:
I Like the C27HG70 has 8 dimming zones and can achieve 20000:1 contrast ratio in HDR, but it's pretty bull**** cause it would be only between a pixel on the left side of the screen compared to the right. tl;dr, local dimming only helps if the contrast is between different regions on the monitor. This would improve alot more with miniLED and microLED, which is why I'm perfectly fine with waiting a bit more while I use my curved CHG70 (I like the curve lol).

What? C27HG70 can go up to 20000:1 contrast ratio in HDR? Can you link me to a review that says this?

[kevinmaster5000]

deadchip12 wrote:
What? C27HG70 can go up to 20000:1 contrast ratio in HDR? Can you link me to a review that says this?

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/samsung_c32hg70.htm

They tested for the 32 inch, but it's the same tech.

Edit: More or less it has the criteria for HDR600, not HDR1000, because it reaches max of 620 nits, however because it is VA, is has really dark blacks. But it's not realistic because it needs more zones. 384 is still not enough, I would say 1k should be the bare minimum. However, we won't get true HDR till microLED and we leave the 8BIT+FRC realm.

Honestly, after I started looking into the CHG70, I became less impressed for the PG27UQ. It's only expensive cause of the stupid gsync module.

[deadchip12]

kevinmaster5000 wrote:
I opted to buy the C27HG70 by samsung. It's basically just as good, if not better (with a better contrast ratio) during SDR

I believe if you turn on local dimming in SDR mode on PG27UQ, its contrast ratio can get to around 6000:1, which is double of C27HG70.

[ELIESEH]

deadchip12 wrote:
I believe if you turn on local dimming in SDR mode on PG27UQ, its contrast ratio can get to around 6000:1, which is double of C27HG70.

But you will have the Halo effect which is worse than AHVA glow

[kevinmaster5000]

ELIESEH wrote:
But you will have the Halo effect which is worse than AHVA glow

That's is mostly why the 6000:1 contrast ratio is BS, because you can only get contrast that big between the darked black point and brightest white point, which means completely different regions of the monitor. Same goes for the CHG70 until they have more zones. In other words, we shouldn't pay more for zones until we get well above 1000 zones.

And I dont know the details exactly, but if the GSync HDR module costed about 500 USD in the PG27UQ, I'm pretty sure that would add 500 bucks to the price of a CHG70. I can see this being the reason why Samsung won't bring a GSync version. They dont want to be burdened with a bunch of overexpensive units that no one is buying because they're 500 dollars more than the freesync version. I rather just turn on VSync, it's not worth it.

[ELIESEH]

kevinmaster5000 wrote:
That's is mostly why the 6000:1 contrast ratio is BS, because you can only get contrast that big between the darked black point and brightest white point, which means completely different regions of the monitor. Same goes for the CHG70 until they have more zones. In other words, we shouldn't pay more for zones until we get well above 1000 zones.

And I dont know the details exactly, but if the GSync HDR module costed about 500 USD in the PG27UQ, I'm pretty sure that would add 500 bucks to the price of a CHG70. I can see this being the reason why Samsung won't bring a GSync version. They dont want to be burdened with a bunch of overexpensive units that no one is buying because they're 500 dollars more than the freesync version. I rather just turn on VSync, it's not worth it.

You are completely right.
I will skip the PG27UQ and X27.
See what HDR monitors will be in the future, I cannot handle IPS Glow, bleed and now Halo effect.

[ELIESEH]

VA VA VA for the win.
Never again AHVA (IPS), black is yellow in the corner, black is gray no black in the entire screen, Glow, Bleed.
Any monitor I will buy it in the future should be only with VA technology if OLED or MicroLed not available.

[ELIESEH]

I will send an email to Samsung asking for a G-SYNC version. send you also maybe they will enter the G-SYNC market.
We need same monitor as C27HG70 (Super VA technology) but with G-SYNC.
Guys, black is the most important color in a monitor.
In addition the C27HG70 has 1 ms response time, are you kidding me? this is the dream monitor, what a king Samsung is, comparing AUO to Samsung like comparing Steel to Gold.
VA has black that is close to OLED.
My adrenaline level go up to 1000 when I saw the specifications and reviews of Samsung C27HG70.