Pg27uq

[Neon_Lights]

MarshallR wrote:
Just checked: PG27 production starts now in May, so mid/late May/early June for first markets depending on how it's being shipped.

Not sure X series yet. It's often mostly waiting for mass-production of panel availability and/or mass production to meet a certain quality standard.

For the record: Monitors don't wait for graphics cards. They just launch on their own schedule.*

My original post:

https://www.inet.se/produkt/2210502/acer-27-predator-x27-4k-144hz-hdr-g-sync-quantum-dot

On this retailer site, the Acer Predator X27 is listed as to be shipped April 5th. Because ASUS usually release their version a little earlier than Acer/the other manufacturers, it is likely that the PG27UQ will be released (assuming that shipping date is correct) during March, this would also still stick to the Q1 2018 release window.


For reference, see the posts in this thread:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1620061/vc-asus-announces-swift-pg27uq-4k-ips-144hz-g-sync-hdr-monitor/10...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1620061/vc-asus-announces-swift-pg27uq-4k-ips-144hz-g-sync-hdr-monitor/11...

[Cornholiooo]

According to tftcentral :"The 27” G-sync HDR 4K screens (Asus PG27UQ, Acer X27, AOC AG273UG) are not now expected until Q3.

The 35” models (PG35VQ, X35) are due now in Q4"

[Sajin]

cornholiooo wrote:
according to tftcentral :"the 27” g-sync hdr 4k screens (asus pg27uq, acer x27, aoc ag273ug) are not now expected until q3.

Damn.

[elsoar]

Wonderful, please, is there in Egypt?
Almazyd

[MarshallR]

elsoar wrote:
Wonderful, please, is there in Egypt?

Best to ask your local store. If you have one that is a specialist in high performance or displays they are more likely to stock.

From ASUS' side we never want to limit a product availability. But sometimes there is a roll-out schedule if supply is limited and ultimately it's always up to our partners to decide whether to stock a product.

[deadchip12]

MarshallR wrote:
Best to ask your local store. If you have one that is a specialist in high performance or displays they are more likely to stock.

From ASUS' side we never want to limit a product availability. But sometimes there is a roll-out schedule if supply is limited and ultimately it's always up to our partners to decide whether to stock a product.

Do you mind creating a separate thread on the intricacies of making this monitor e.g. FALD algorithm, quantum dot, high refresh rate on 4K panel etc.

[briansu]

Hmm this article seems to conclude that an 8 Bit monitor is more than enough as the human eye can’t really perceive 10 Bit

*https://fstoppers.com/education/can-you-see-difference-between-10-bit-and-8-bit-images-and-video-foo...

https://fstoppers.com/education/can-you-see-difference-between-10-bit-and-8-bit-images-and-video-foo...*

[Sichtwechsel86]

briansu wrote:
Hmm this article seems to conclude that an 8 Bit monitor is more than enough as the human eye can’t really perceive 10 Bit

*https://fstoppers.com/education/can-you-see-difference-between-10-bit-and-8-bit-images-and-video-foo...

https://fstoppers.com/education/can-you-see-difference-between-10-bit-and-8-bit-images-and-video-foo...*

well - you definitely can see a difference between a 8 bit panel and a 10bit panel just look at a red-green-blue shades test-pattern -
one with 256 shades (as with 8 bit panels) and one with 1024 shades (as with 10bit panels)

make sure to look at the 256 shades pattern on a 8bit panel
and the 1024 shades pattern on a 10bit panel

one can absolutely differenciate - even if the difference is just subtle at some frames -
of course - 8bit also will look good enough to enjoy every content on it!

But from dark-red to white-red with 254 shades inbetween there are some rough edges and that occurs in worst case as banding!
With 1022 shades between dark-red and white-red there is less banding and much smoother transition!

Today i inspectet my OLED TV a bit further -
connected my gaming-laptop via HDMI2.0 -
and it occured to my, that one can not switch between rec709 and rec2020

BUT:
if you switch HDR on via Windows Display Settings (not Nvidia Control Panel) the TV shows 4K/HDR/rec2020 in it's info-window

So maybe standard is rec709 and to switch hdr on changes colorspace to rec2020 too...???

Nvidia Control center was set as followed:

3840x2160p @ 60hz
YUV422 10bit

Can someone confirm this?

[briansu]

Sichtwechsel86 wrote:
well - you definitely can see a difference between a 8 bit panel and a 10bit panel just look at a red-green-blue shades test-pattern -
one with 256 shades (as with 8 bit panels) and one with 1024 shades (as with 10bit panels)

make sure to look at the 256 shades pattern on a 8bit panel
and the 1024 shades pattern on a 10bit panel

one can absolutely differenciate - even if the difference is just subtle at some frames -
of course - 8bit also will look good enough to enjoy every content on it!

But from dark-red to white-red with 254 shades inbetween there are some rough edges and that occurs in worst case as banding!
With 1022 shades between dark-red and white-red there is less banding and much smoother transition!

Today i inspectet my OLED TV a bit further -
connected my gaming-laptop via HDMI2.0 -
and it occured to my, that one can not switch between rec709 and rec2020

BUT:
if you switch HDR on via Windows Display Settings (not Nvidia Control Panel) the TV shows 4K/HDR/rec2020 in it's info-window

So maybe standard is rec709 and to switch hdr on changes colorspace to rec2020 too...???

Nvidia Control center was set as followed:

3840x2160p @ 60hz
YUV422 10bit

Can someone confirm this?

*

Hmm OK thanks. If I get a 10 Bit Panel I won’t know what 8 Bit FRC looks like, which is why I prefer to upgrade in steps. *

[MarshallR]

[QUOTE=Sichtwechsel86;714424
So maybe standard is rec709 and to switch hdr on changes colorspace to rec2020 too...???


The maximum color space available on the PG27UQ is 90% DCI-P3.

Beyond calibrating the panel, honestly I don't think focusing on color spaces is the best use of a monitor designed to playing games. If you want something geared towards professional, color-sensitive use, then go for PA32UC. The PG27 uses an Nvidia scaler chip specially focused on highest-end gaming applications. The PA uses a professional-grade scaler and LCD construction (which includes FALD) from another manufacturer, so even though they are both 4K HDR monitors with 384-zones of backlighting, they are still quite different. The firmware is still in active development so I don't want to say too much pre-launch about specific options.

Please remember 3/4-way SLI is no longer in active development beyond benchmarking apps like 3DMark. It will not benefit mainstream games.

You also don't have to reach 144Hz. Treat it like a top-speed. The whole point of G-Sync (and VRR in general) is you should be able to game smoothly and happily in the 60-144 range: you get the speed benefits of >60, but without hitting the bumpers at 144.

[deadchip12]

MarshallR wrote:
The maximum color space available on the PG27UQ is 90% DCI-P3.

Beyond calibrating the panel, honestly I don't think focusing on color spaces is the best use of a monitor designed to playing games. If you want something geared towards professional, color-sensitive use, then go for PA32UC. The PG27 uses an Nvidia scaler chip specially focused on highest-end gaming applications. The PA uses a professional-grade scaler and LCD construction (which includes FALD) from another manufacturer, so even though they are both 4K HDR monitors with 384-zones of backlighting, they are still quite different. The firmware is still in active development so I don't want to say too much pre-launch about specific options.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't color a big part of HDR? If we can see a larger color spaces on PA32UC along with full 10-bit, isn't its HDR capability better than PG27UQ's in this aspect (though PG27UQ may be better in other aspects like FALD)?