Pg27uq

[Neon_Lights]

MarshallR wrote:
Just checked: PG27 production starts now in May, so mid/late May/early June for first markets depending on how it's being shipped.

Not sure X series yet. It's often mostly waiting for mass-production of panel availability and/or mass production to meet a certain quality standard.

For the record: Monitors don't wait for graphics cards. They just launch on their own schedule.*

My original post:

https://www.inet.se/produkt/2210502/acer-27-predator-x27-4k-144hz-hdr-g-sync-quantum-dot

On this retailer site, the Acer Predator X27 is listed as to be shipped April 5th. Because ASUS usually release their version a little earlier than Acer/the other manufacturers, it is likely that the PG27UQ will be released (assuming that shipping date is correct) during March, this would also still stick to the Q1 2018 release window.


For reference, see the posts in this thread:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1620061/vc-asus-announces-swift-pg27uq-4k-ips-144hz-g-sync-hdr-monitor/10...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1620061/vc-asus-announces-swift-pg27uq-4k-ips-144hz-g-sync-hdr-monitor/11...

[briansu]

kevinmaster5000 wrote:
They obviously did not do a good job with this display. There's too much dissent towards the monitors. While every monitor has their own compromises, this monitor has a few in particular that make it a terrible buy. However, I personally didnt care that I was wasting my money, I wanted the best. I bought the monitor. However I was disappointed by the features the monitor had. I'll list all the problems I had (other than chroma subsampling, blackcrushing, and being not true 10bit).

Keep in mind I exchanged the monitor and got a second one, so these are just flaws presented in both.

1) The BLB is still there, even with FALD on. It matters. Turn off FALD, find where the lighting uniformity is the worst, turn on FALD, hover your mouse there on a dark visual, you will notice is big time. This is another AUO problem

2) For some reason, on very occasional circumstances (but is definitely noteworthy to mention), on both the panels, when I had a black visual on a white background, I sometimes saw yellowing of the white (close to the black visual). This happened times such as that "HDR turning on" sign on top of Destiny 2 white intro, or even in this Asus forums where it's black background and white text (But I saw it only happen once here). This is another AUO problem.

3) The fans are just loud. I am in no means in a quiet setup. I have a very typical bedroom, with a very normal ambient noise. If my A/C is off, the fan is loud. I am sensitive to high pitch (good hearing). The monitor has 2 laptop fans and are always right infront of your face. They have to spin a lot faster to achieve similar cooling as a high quality fan, resulting in more noise and a higher pitch noise. I have my PC on my desk, to my right, while the monitor is infront of me. No idea why it's louder than my PC. With or without headphones, it was always audible. This is a big con as to why they didnt use a high performance fan. A bad move by Asus.

4) For some reason, the I would hear the fans on the back just speed up for absolutely no reason. I would just be reading some news and I hear my fans speeding up and slowing down every 20 seconds. This was not a constant thing, but sometimes it would happen out of nowhere and keep happening for an hour. I have a cool room too. I would say an Asus problem due to a bad fan curve and lack of software for user customization.

5) This is a problem that may or may not happen in the future, but with other monitors and TVs in the past that had fans inside, they were known to clog up and have problems, particularly as soon as the warranty finished. That's something to keep in mind.

6) My lights aren't always on. When it starts to get dark outside, but I dont need my lights on yet, I start to notice some blooming due to the decrease in ambient light. This is a flaw in only having 384 zones. This is the limitations of tech and hopefully will be reduced greatly with miniLED.

The screen itself is the best there is right now. But there are too many compromises for the money. So it was very easy for me to return it. HDR is the main selling point as to why this is over 1000$ more expensive than other monitors. There's very few games that even use HDR.

The tech of this monitor is still very primitive and ridiculous amount of room to improve. The GSync modules can easily be reduced in cost in future generations, and when yield of these monitors increase, I see the price dropping drastically.

In conclusion, I see the monitor as too rushed and having too many compromises for it's value. Even if you want the best panel in existance and dont care about your money at all, you will have to do one of two things when dealing with the problems of the monitor; be ignorant when someone askes you if the panel has any problems, or be honest and mention how you dont care that your 2000$ monitor has numerous easily addressable problems. Then you can actually enjoy your panel! Play HDR on those 2 games you own that even have HDR, or just play fortnite at 80fps.

yes I agree there are lots of issues. This will be displayed in museums in the future with the label the world’s first HDR G-Sync..... but it suffered from bla bla bla. It’s the first and thus naturally have problems.

Once again it’s all about timing. There are some who can wait and others who can’t as they need such a monitor now when there isn’t an alternative.

Let’s not forget there is also the option of buying this now and upgrading later.

Thanks for pointing out the yellow colour over white issue. I have this problem over almost any single colour, it seems to be a little blueish at the corners of white boxes. I think it only happens in HDR mode though.

By the way, how to turn local dimming on and off???

Lastly I want to say you’re making it sound like there are very few HDR games for PC. There are loads more than that for sure. My old ones that do are Battlefield 1, F1 2017 and Assassins Creed Origins just to name a few.*

[Theknystar]

briansu wrote:
yes I agree there are lots of issues. This will be displayed in museums in the future with the label the world’s first HDR G-Sync..... but it suffered from bla bla bla. It’s the first and thus naturally have problems.

Once again it’s all about timing. There are some who can wait and others who can’t as they need such a monitor now when there isn’t an alternative.

Let’s not forget there is also the option of buying this now and upgrading later.

Thanks for pointing out the yellow colour over white issue. I have this problem over almost any single colour, it seems to be a little blueish at the corners of white boxes. I think it only happens in HDR mode though.

By the way, how to turn local dimming on and off???

Lastly I want to say you’re making it sound like there are very few HDR games for PC. There are loads more than that for sure. My old ones that do are Battlefield 1, F1 2017 and Assassins Creed Origins just to name a few.*

I agree, this is the first of its kind and this is what you can call innovation! Not like a phone with 1000$ price tag on it and yea... the camera is better than before... hurray :D. imo first tesla have horrible distance capability but it was the first and it was groundbreaking and people bought it.

This is not an investment, this is not a good value monitor. I have high doubt that an IPS panel could be much better than this therefore im only gonna change this monitor if a valid miniled microled or whatever new innovation comes.

Simply in the monitor menu. "variable backlight" on or off:
since you asked this im most certain you checked your bleeding with this turned on. (you wont see much bleeding if its turned on). You might want to test it again with this turned off.

[briansu]

Theknystar wrote:
I agree, this is the first of its kind and this is what you can call innovation! Not like a phone with 1000$ price tag on it and yea... the camera is better than before... hurray :D. imo first tesla have horrible distance capability but it was the first and it was groundbreaking and people bought it.

This is not an investment, this is not a good value monitor. I have high doubt that an IPS panel could be much better than this therefore im only gonna change this monitor if a valid miniled microled or whatever new innovation comes.

Simply in the monitor menu. "variable backlight" on or off:
since you asked this im most certain you checked your bleeding with this turned on. (you wont see much bleeding if its turned on). You might want to test it again with this turned off.

Hmmm so I need to be in SDR mode with variable backlight off to check for bleeding? I'll give that a go tonight. Thanks.

[ELIESEH]

Theknystar wrote:
I agree, this is the first of its kind and this is what you can call innovation! Not like a phone with 1000$ price tag on it and yea... the camera is better than before... hurray :D. imo first tesla have horrible distance capability but it was the first and it was groundbreaking and people bought it.

This is not an investment, this is not a good value monitor. I have high doubt that an IPS panel could be much better than this therefore im only gonna change this monitor if a valid miniled microled or whatever new innovation comes.

Simply in the monitor menu. "variable backlight" on or off:
since you asked this im most certain you checked your bleeding with this turned on. (you wont see much bleeding if its turned on). You might want to test it again with this turned off.

Your are right.

[briansu]

Theknystar wrote:
Hello people. I just registered here because i bought the PG27UQ and i would like to share my experiences!
The amount of crazy talk and blowing things out of proportion is crazy on this monitor in my opinion. I changed my PG27AQ for this (to be exact thats my 2nd monitor now)

Important thing to mention i ALWAYS game with bright lights in the room and not from the bat cave so thats differ my experience with the monitor i agree.

-First blacklight bleed
I never had a perfect LCD that didnt come with it. I just accepted that its not that simple as QC being bad. Mine have a usual at the right top corner, nothing crazy bad, nothing what i didnt get used to.

-IPS glow
zero with variable backlight
Really not much with VA turned off (my pg27aq have more lol)

-Variable blacklight
In games i cant notice it. Obviously with some really dark menu / places i will notice it if i looking for it but its not that bad experience as people go crazy about it.
BUT i never seen this kind of great blacks from an IPS ever and im happy with that.

-Fan at the back
I dont know what kind of silence room / laboratory room /extreme silent pc environment you guys have that the monitor is louder than your PC. I barely notice it and its really not that bad as people talk about it. Also i have a closed headset so i cant even hear if a plane crash or my room get robbed behind me so..... yea.

-HDR
Obviously a gimmick right now but when your game have it... oh boy... its looks crazy good!

-Dead pixles
Maybe RNG but i have none.. maybe i won the lottery or maybe the QC not that bad as people complain (dont forget pleased customers rarely comes to complain or even talk about the product)

-98/120/144 Hz
I agree, the 144Hz is a little bit scuffed and they made it for marketing BUT the 120Hz is absolutely perfect and im gonna use it on that mode.


Overall im really happy with it. compered to my pg27aq (which you cant really call a cheap monitor either) is just looks bad with games now compare to this. The pg27uq have so much better colors / contrast and also the 120Hz is like a bless. Dont even try to run this with a single 1080TI. you have to have 2 of them and you have to keep in mind that you have to instabuy the new nvidia architecture as well for this.


What i seen from the comments lot of people cant decide what kind of gamer group they are part of. You have to figure out that before buying this. This is not made for average people and thats fine. Even ASUS is well aware of that.

-Casual: only them can say that a big ass OLED TV is much better for gaming than this. I have to tell you a secret this monitor is not made for you DONT BUY IT, you are fine with your OLED. your daily 2 hours of gaming doesnt need this monitor. OLED have a crazy technological issue which will RUIN your monitor if you are not a causal. Good luck with that, im perfectly fine with my bleed instead.

-Average: want a good value on a monitor and to be pleased with it. This is NOT a good value monitor. im 100% sure this will come cheaper in the future, you can wait and skip this if you want a better deal, dont sell your kidney boys and girls.

-Tryhard: Have random money to throw in to the garbage and fine overpaying for cutting edge things. You gonna play 5-10 Hours a day and you want the best possible experience with the most eyecandy possible. PERFECT FOR YOU.

-Pro/Pro behavior
Want the most framerates, bring the graphs low until the edges are clear and the eyecandy is gone for better in game performance and for less distraction. You gonna be fine with this monitor but you would be fine with a cheaper one as well. Only your pocket can decide.

Lol you can’t comment on the fans if you have headphones on 🙂 This monitor is louder than the PC for 3
reasons,

1) People are not used to monitors being actively cooled

2) Monitors sit closer to the user than the PC

3) People who can afford this monitor have silent liquid cooled PCs that run fanless when idle.*

[bubba123]

briansu wrote:
Lol you can’t comment on the fans if you have headphones on 🙂 This monitor is louder than the PC for 3
reasons,

1) People are not used to monitors being actively cooled

2) Monitors sit closer to the user than the PC

3) People who can afford this monitor have silent liquid cooled PCs that run fanless when idle.*

I have tested with headphones on and off my pc is louder and I do not hear the fan at all on my unit that was produced in june 2018 pg27uq If you are lucky enough to get a panel with no backlight bleed or dead pixels keep it this is my 2nd asus monitor and I am very satisfied with my purchase. I just hope I will be able to say the same thing in 2019 with the new oled tv's

[briansu]

bubba123 wrote:
I have tested with headphones on and off my pc is louder and I do not hear the fan at all on my unit that was produced in june 2018 pg27uq If you are lucky enough to get a panel with no backlight bleed or dead pixels keep it this is my 2nd asus monitor and I am very satisfied with my purchase. I just hope I will be able to say the same thing in 2019 with the new oled tv's

mine seems to spin all the time at the same speed. I can certainly hear it because the PC is 99% silent. Only the water pump spins but that's way too quiet to be heard.

I don't think I've got any dead pixels. Haven't checked properly. Will do later.

what is backlight bleed? I'll look that up and check for that too.

[deadchip12]

kevinmaster5000 wrote:
He misses a lot of stuff in the review. Obviously his team didnt do much research before making his script. Also like almost all of Asus's stuff dont have the last letter of the model number on the box for some reason.

I'm disappoint at the review also. Not thorough enough. And what is that "true 10bit, no 8bit+FRC bs" lol?

Waiting for tftcentral. Should come soon.*

[briansu]

1 more question, why does it say PG27U on the boxes and not PG27UQ?

[bubba123]

just started using my pg27uq I can report tested with variable backlight on and off I have no dead pixels and no backlight bleed I am keeping this monitor and getting an extended warranty on it. Good luck everyone else in the panel lottery and the fan I cannot hear it at all in my version