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Hi guys. Im a professional 3d artist/designer and recently im a gamedeveloper.
Here are some of the problems i encountered with this laptop so far, which make my life miserable.
My main problem is that due to some circumstances im stuck with it, for maybe couple of months ahead for sure.
Why dont i start from the very beginning?
* Bought it, in retail everything looks fine. Brought home - 'W' key falls off. Just like that you press its lower part, it fells off.
No visible damage, if you press it normally you cant tell defect (just works) but once pressed lower part it jumps right off.
Bring it back to vendor - "Sorry its your fault, you broke that" in know i did not.
They want to scam me? Fat chance. Call police, lawyer, customer protection etc.
Next day they begging me to not drag them in court. Okay i don't care just give me working laptop.
Exchanged took money from them for travel time and travel expenses.
* Screen is crap, vertical lines, tho colors and response time are good, ignore that i wont look at that screen so much.
* Start mirgating my software etc, new to windows 8.
Suddenly my life becomes a miserable hunt for hacks to disable all MS horse poop and removing tons of bloatware
carefully provided by ASUS. Hacks to disable charms. To kill Edge UI, to kill Skydrive, to this to that etc.
* Dinamic brightness cant be turn off, but whatever.
* Realise i can't switch completely to Nvidia GPU.
MFW
After 2 months of suffering with all my pro software that you have to manually tweak to work properly disregarding all
optimus attempts to flip me over.
Something happens, that overrides all my registry hacks for windows, rendering months of careful tinkering flush in vain.
Install windows 7.
Realise that windows 8.1 has better performance with optimus.
Hack explorer.exe and dwm.exe to wrok on gpu.
Doesnt change much still pathetic HD4600 is responsible for rendering windows interface which leads to numerous issues
while Aero is off Photoshop cant recognize my GPU no matter what.
While Aero is on Unity 3d drops performance 2 times.
Performance in games is somewhat better sometimes.
i have 3 screens.
In windows 8.1 multiscreen has better performance. Sad to see this
with 3 screens and
with one.
Realize that spitting on my settings for desktop rendering Optimus(tm Pest Technologies) still uses intel for rendering
windows. Everything feels sluggish and response time is bad with Aero on.
Have problems with Unity3d 4.6rc18 completely not being able to recognize nvgpu disregarding anything,
which it should not, because its beta, but would not happen if i wasn't locked on that pathetic intel chip.
No fan control for gpu whatsoever.
Crippled nvidia 880m not working on 100% official nvidia responce is silence check this thread
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/754922/geforce-mobile-gpus/nvidia-crippling-the-gtx-880ms-w...
12 pages of people ranging from professional OC's to casuals. Ofc silence like here, because why even bother - they already bought it.
For those 2 months i own it, ive seen only one official response on forums when someone accidentally insulted Asus member and they transitioned from ignore mode, to rage induced SHUTUPORIKILLYOU type of behavior. Which leads to conclusion that they do read this but will act like they don't.
So far optimus caused more nerves, stress and hatred than any other piece of hardware equipment i ever had, ever. Ever.
In my opinion this is the worst decision that was made with this laptop which otherwise (disregarding cheap screen and other minor issues) is good.
And the official silence on the issue is just destroying my trust in this company every day more and more.
Ok i can get that you FAILED miserably by propagating GPU outputs into intel buffer and then it goes to screen.
BUT EXPLAIN TO MY WHY THE HELL IS WINDOWS RENDERED BY THIS PATHETIC PIECE OF JUNK?
Why cant nvidia gpu render EVERYTHING and then just output it to screen through that buffer?
Why?
WHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?
Because it will cost more than neural cells of couple of suffering customers? Because you.. can't? Don't want to?
Too hard? Requires admitting you have done something wrong? Even hmscott which tries hard to defend ASUS
agrees that it is WORST decision. Whats gonna happen? Silence. No solution what so ever.
Conclusion is just really, if you are working with 3d/2d gamedev, cg, compositing etc, and you seek for a serious machine
that can carry any load... SADLY THIS IS NOT IT, THANKS TO ASUS INCREDIBLE DESIGN DECISION.
Everything is fine, just everything, but being locked on Intel Chip causes so much compatibility issues with pro software
that you will find yourself in endless hell of seeking solutions to problems that are caused by this, on daily basis problems occur.
This doesnt work right, that throws some exceptions, this lags, that just stupidly refuses to work etc etc etc..
PS. i will contact ASUS support and just copy paste this wall of text to them, see what they will respond.
In mean time all asus forum member which are reading this are free to maintain silent mockery, and imply problem does not exist and im just mad for no reason.
Here are some of the problems i encountered with this laptop so far, which make my life miserable.
My main problem is that due to some circumstances im stuck with it, for maybe couple of months ahead for sure.
Why dont i start from the very beginning?
* Bought it, in retail everything looks fine. Brought home - 'W' key falls off. Just like that you press its lower part, it fells off.
No visible damage, if you press it normally you cant tell defect (just works) but once pressed lower part it jumps right off.
Bring it back to vendor - "Sorry its your fault, you broke that" in know i did not.
They want to scam me? Fat chance. Call police, lawyer, customer protection etc.
Next day they begging me to not drag them in court. Okay i don't care just give me working laptop.
Exchanged took money from them for travel time and travel expenses.
* Screen is crap, vertical lines, tho colors and response time are good, ignore that i wont look at that screen so much.
* Start mirgating my software etc, new to windows 8.
Suddenly my life becomes a miserable hunt for hacks to disable all MS horse poop and removing tons of bloatware
carefully provided by ASUS. Hacks to disable charms. To kill Edge UI, to kill Skydrive, to this to that etc.
* Dinamic brightness cant be turn off, but whatever.
* Realise i can't switch completely to Nvidia GPU.
MFW
After 2 months of suffering with all my pro software that you have to manually tweak to work properly disregarding all
optimus attempts to flip me over.
Something happens, that overrides all my registry hacks for windows, rendering months of careful tinkering flush in vain.
Install windows 7.
Realise that windows 8.1 has better performance with optimus.
Hack explorer.exe and dwm.exe to wrok on gpu.
Doesnt change much still pathetic HD4600 is responsible for rendering windows interface which leads to numerous issues
while Aero is off Photoshop cant recognize my GPU no matter what.
While Aero is on Unity 3d drops performance 2 times.
Performance in games is somewhat better sometimes.
i have 3 screens.
In windows 8.1 multiscreen has better performance. Sad to see this
with 3 screens and
with one.
Realize that spitting on my settings for desktop rendering Optimus(tm Pest Technologies) still uses intel for rendering
windows. Everything feels sluggish and response time is bad with Aero on.
Have problems with Unity3d 4.6rc18 completely not being able to recognize nvgpu disregarding anything,
which it should not, because its beta, but would not happen if i wasn't locked on that pathetic intel chip.
No fan control for gpu whatsoever.
Crippled nvidia 880m not working on 100% official nvidia responce is silence check this thread
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/754922/geforce-mobile-gpus/nvidia-crippling-the-gtx-880ms-w...
12 pages of people ranging from professional OC's to casuals. Ofc silence like here, because why even bother - they already bought it.
For those 2 months i own it, ive seen only one official response on forums when someone accidentally insulted Asus member and they transitioned from ignore mode, to rage induced SHUTUPORIKILLYOU type of behavior. Which leads to conclusion that they do read this but will act like they don't.
So far optimus caused more nerves, stress and hatred than any other piece of hardware equipment i ever had, ever. Ever.
In my opinion this is the worst decision that was made with this laptop which otherwise (disregarding cheap screen and other minor issues) is good.
And the official silence on the issue is just destroying my trust in this company every day more and more.
Ok i can get that you FAILED miserably by propagating GPU outputs into intel buffer and then it goes to screen.
BUT EXPLAIN TO MY WHY THE HELL IS WINDOWS RENDERED BY THIS PATHETIC PIECE OF JUNK?
Why cant nvidia gpu render EVERYTHING and then just output it to screen through that buffer?
Why?
WHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?
Because it will cost more than neural cells of couple of suffering customers? Because you.. can't? Don't want to?
Too hard? Requires admitting you have done something wrong? Even hmscott which tries hard to defend ASUS
agrees that it is WORST decision. Whats gonna happen? Silence. No solution what so ever.
Conclusion is just really, if you are working with 3d/2d gamedev, cg, compositing etc, and you seek for a serious machine
that can carry any load... SADLY THIS IS NOT IT, THANKS TO ASUS INCREDIBLE DESIGN DECISION.
Everything is fine, just everything, but being locked on Intel Chip causes so much compatibility issues with pro software
that you will find yourself in endless hell of seeking solutions to problems that are caused by this, on daily basis problems occur.
This doesnt work right, that throws some exceptions, this lags, that just stupidly refuses to work etc etc etc..
PS. i will contact ASUS support and just copy paste this wall of text to them, see what they will respond.
In mean time all asus forum member which are reading this are free to maintain silent mockery, and imply problem does not exist and im just mad for no reason.
I know it is frustrating, but to vent here in a user supported forum does little to change anything
what does then? Any actual way to do anything?
If g750 is WIRED as you say, how come people say they hacked the bios and it works for them?
Explain the above. Also haven't checked links you provide, sufficient was just to SAY what you want
without showing off in each post. And yeah as of now i feel that i get crippled 3k hardware so im going to
vent my rage on OFFICIAL forums be it user supported or not, it's none of my concern, if at ASUS people
don't have the decency to come down and actually have conversation with their customers its again not my
problem.
Praz wrote:
Hello
All posts have been moved into this thread. No need for multiple threads for the same topic.
Hello return my thread to state it was before and never touch it again.
If you want to change anything do that without destroying others people work.
@hmscott refrain from addressing to me any further.
