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Serious Purchase Advice G750JM vs G750JS ( Urgent )

xDivine
Level 7
Okay guys so i`m having a serious struggle deciding what to buy.
G750JM - Original price - 1,340$ ( Adding 8 GB ram and 250 SSD Samsung Evo 840 = +200$ ) = 1,540$
G750JS - Original price - 1,729$ ( Maybe switching the SanDisk crap with an Samsung Evo but not sure) = 1,729$

Main application that would be run on the machine : Dota2 / Photoshop / Adobe After Effects / Lightroom and such.

Issues that i`ve heard about and i would like to hear opinions on :
-Temperature difference -> The JM runs 10 degrees cooler than the JS on the same application. Is this true ?How is this gonna affect the GPU and the lifespan of the machine?
Note: I expect it to work with no hardware problems what-so-ever for at least 5 years straight , considering i will always use it with a cooler fan and no high requirements applications/games
-Headset plugins are very faulty ( easily breakable ) .. not all headsets work with it = Can you tell me more about it?
-BSOD error ? Is this fixed yet? Seems like this is fixed for the JM
-I`ve heard of people that are having problems with cooling system ( the fans throttles too much even tho they don`t run anything or the fan noise is way too noisy)

I would like an update on those if its possibile.


And the final question , is the upgrade really worth it?

I can`t figure it out to be honest. Whats the difference between the two gpu`s ? Will the 3 GB 870M heat the machine way more than the 2GB 860M ?

Also again , which one should have the longer lifespan?
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xDivine wrote:
Could you tell me more about how the JM performs?



Also , I would like to hear more opinions on this.. I still don`t know what to do. Considering i don`t really use any high-end games/apps.

The JM performs as well as you'd expect from this gaming series. Able to maintain above 100 fps in Dota 2 on max settings and only dips slightly in heavy teamfights. I overclocked my JM's cpu for even lower temperatures and better performance just because I could, and the temperatures when under load are indeed impressive. So that's something to take into consideration. Only problems I had were the BSODs that have apparently been fixed for me as said in my previous post.
If you don't intend to be using for high-end games or apps then I'd say the JM is more than good enough(even though it is well capable of high-end games/apps) as the JS would seem like overkill in terms of performance and price.

Caastiel wrote:
The JM performs as well as you'd expect from this gaming series. Able to maintain above 100 fps in Dota 2 on max settings and only dips slightly in heavy teamfights. I overclocked my JM's cpu for even lower temperatures and better performance just because I could, and the temperatures when under load are indeed impressive. So that's something to take into consideration. Only problems I had were the BSODs that have apparently been fixed for me as said in my previous post.
If you don't intend to be using for high-end games or apps then I'd say the JM is more than good enough(even though it is well capable of high-end games/apps) as the JS would seem like overkill in terms of performance and price.



Did you upgrade it with any SSD or More Ram? Is the 2.5 inch 840 Evo Samsung fit-able ?

xDivine wrote:
Did you upgrade it with any SSD or More Ram? Is the 2.5 inch 840 Evo Samsung fit-able ?

Nope no upgrades. I've been meaning to get more RAM but haven't been able to find one with the same part number as the RAM currently inside. Probably will replace with a new set of RAM instead.

As far as how the JM performs, I will say it's given me rock-solid performance thus far and has handled just about everything I've thrown at it perfectly smoothly. I just played through Crysis 3 on it a few days ago on... High (not Very High; that slowed down juuust enough to be noticeable) settings, and it was smooth through the whole game. Same for Bioshock Infinite, another big graphics-intensive game. Even emulators like Dolphin and PCSX2, which are heavy on the CPU, run fine.

That said... I'd probably still opt for the JS. The JM still has its BSOD issue if you aren't using the 332.60 driver or older. I wouldn't consider this an issue if I hadn't used newer drivers like 340.52 and seen the big performance boost, then had to switch back because of BSODs. I find it odd that others are saying the BSODs are fixed; for me, the 340.52 driver still BSOD'd after about a week. Not nearly as often as everything between 332.60 and that, but still often enough to be frustrating when I lose everything I was doing out of the blue. Hopefully ASUS and Nvidia can do something about this, because as it stands it's rather unacceptable.

xDivine
Level 7
So if i get the JM its gonna be hard to add rams / an SSD ? Will it fit?
Right now i`m 60% towards getting the JM but i`m not so sure. I mean is the 400$ difference worth it?

xDivine wrote:
So if i get the JM its gonna be hard to add rams / an SSD ? Will it fit?
Right now i`m 60% towards getting the JM but i`m not so sure. I mean is the 400$ difference worth it?

There are four slots for ram in all models, and only two are easily accessible. It was hard for me because I wanted to find the exact same RAM as the one currently inside, adding RAMS are easy otherwise. I suggest checking inside to see whether the SSD will fit first.

xDivine wrote:
So if i get the JM its gonna be hard to add rams / an SSD ? Will it fit?
Right now i`m 60% towards getting the JM but i`m not so sure. I mean is the 400$ difference worth it?

There are four slots for ram in all models, and only two are easily accessible. It was hard for me because I wanted to find the exact same RAM as the one currently inside, adding RAMS are easy otherwise. I suggest checking inside to see whether the SSD will fit first.

NovaHova
Level 7
I have the JM and if you update all drivers/windows updates you wont ever BSOD, i have no issues at all with this laptop.
EXCEPT i do have BSOD when i have opened geforce experience for some reason, sometimes this has happened.. But if you have opened that app, just reboot and it wont ever BSOD untill you open it again. So for me this isnt a complaint at all really, samsung evo 840 works great on this thing. Flying laptop.

xDivine
Level 7
Is there a windows 8.1 clean install CD that comes with the laptop?
I`m thinking in case i`m going to buy the SSD and try to migrate the OS from the HDD to the SSD.Maybe i`ma screw it up somehow.
I`m still leaning like 70% into buying the JM because of the following
Pros:
-low temp
-the 860m should take pretty much everything i`ma throw at it
-the price
Cons:
-only 5200 RPM HDD vs the JS`s 7200 (is this even a huge difference?)
-Not having a SSD (the SanDisk 256 gb price ranges for up to 140$ same as the SamsungEVO )
-2.4 CPU vs the 3.4 CPU the JS has. Again is the difference that huge?


Regarding the SSDs..which one would fit the laptop?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-2-5-Inch-Notebook-MZ-7TE500LW/dp/B00E3W1A64/ref=sr_1_1?s=e...
or
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-7TE500BW/dp/B00E3W19MO/ref=sr_1_2?s=e...

xDivine
Level 7
Bump?

Could anyone send hmscott a pm ,regarding this thread, i wanna talk with him via fb/skype or anything. I can`t seem to be able to send pm`s.