New G751JM owner's thoughts

[guvadc]

Ok, so I figured I'd make a new thread just for the G751JM. I haven't had it long, but figured I'd give some thoughts.

I really do love the touch screen. so far, Windows 8 is much better with it. The screen itself is not matte, its much like a screen on your smartphone. I have no if the screens on the higher end models are like this, but I can say that I MUCH prefer this screen to a matt screen. I find it a lot more pleasing to look at and work with.

This model with the GTX860m does have the Optimus drivers. From what I have gathered reading about last years models this is supposed to be bad. I don't know if anything has changed this year to make it better or not. If anyone knows id there is a way to disable the use of the HD4600 let me know. I think I did get a little over 4 hours of battery time and that was messing around with some game demos from Steam , like GRID 2. If the Optimus does improve batter life, then I think that will be a plus for my usage patterns.

I haven been in with PC gaming for a few years ( console game mostly), and am completely new to the ASUS ROG series. If anyone has tips for me , like should I uninstall the Nvidia Experience software, please let me know.

EDIT: So I see that I still can't get the thread title right . I meant it G751JM with the JM in all caps. can that be fixed?

Edit by cl-Albert: Ok, title has been edited to let readers know what to expect, so hope it's okay. Thanks.

[craveywd]

Sagi wrote:
I recommend the Samsung EVO 840 🙂

I had both Intel, Kingston etc.. Somehow I just feel the quality is better with Samsung (and it's a huge improvement over the standard hdd it comes with).

Thanks man!

[hmscott]

Sagi wrote:
I recommend the Samsung EVO 840 🙂

I had both Intel, Kingston etc.. Somehow I just feel the quality is better with Samsung (and it's a huge improvement over the standard hdd it comes with).

craveywd wrote:
Thanks man!

Guys, normally I would agree totally, I have recommended the same for a long time, Samsung Pro / Evo. But reports are coming in that the 2nd Bay isn't running Evo's at least at full SATA III speed, the port says it capable of 6gbps but it's running @ 3mbps.

The only report I have seen of SATA III speed throughput from the 2nd Bay, a guy took his Crucial M550 and ran it in both bays and got identical throughput readings of full SATA III speed. I saw the report in the huge 970m/980m thread on notebookreview.

Thread starts here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/761783-asus-g751-coming-maxwell-gtx-980m-...

Does anyone have that link? Or was that your report? It is a memory now, and it might have been a M500...

Anyone with a Crucial M500 or M550 tried it in the 2nd Bay? Are you seeing full speed SATA III throughput with CrystalDiskMark?

[Richdog]

Don't forget Samsung 850 EVO is about to be released... an improvement over the 850 and a similar price.

Speed differences will be similar to this http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-850-Pro-256GB-vs-Samsung-840-Evo-250GB/2385vs1594

🙂

[Sagi]

It doesn't really matter tho, since the 2 bay is only sata II - It won't be able to run @ max speed anyway 🙂

But even so, you might be able to get a Samsung EVO 840 cheaper with the 850 series on it's way.

[Richdog]

Sagi wrote:
It doesn't really matter tho, since the 2 bay is only sata II - It won't be able to run @ max speed anyway 🙂

But even so, you might be able to get a Samsung EVO 840 cheaper with the 850 series on it's way.

Well, that's why you would pout the EVO SSD in the SATA III bay and the storage drive in the SATAII... right?

[Sagi]

Richdog wrote:
Well, that's why you would pout the EVO SSD in the SATA III bay and the storage drive in the SATAII... right?

No, cause the majority of the G751's comes with either sata III ssd or m.2 pcie ssd (both having the OS preinstalled on them).

I didn't touch the standard ssd that came with the laptop - I just replaced the 1TB hdd (which is placed in the sata II slot) with my new Samsung ssd instead.

Sure, if you buy one without the standard ssd and only have the 1TB hdd, then yes - Obviously that would make sense.

[Richdog]

Sagi wrote:
No, cause the majority of the G751's comes with either sata III ssd or m.2 pcie ssd (both having the OS preinstalled on them).

I didn't touch the standard ssd that came with the laptop - I just replaced the 1TB hdd (which is placed in the sata II slot) with my new Samsung ssd instead.

Sure, if you buy one without the standard ssd and only have the 1TB hdd, then yes - Obviously that would make sense.

I was speaking purely from the perspective of having one SSD and one mechanical storage drive... hence the SSD would go in the SATA III or M2 port. I don't see much point in having two SSD drives in this laptop.

[Sagi]

I can think of many reasons to have 2x ssd 🙂

Overall ssd's perform better and doesn't produce the same amount of heat or noises + If you're often carrying your laptop with you, the ssd is also a better solution. It doesn't break because of rough handling unlike the hdd.

Not to mention, the loadtime in games, programs etc. is just soooooooo much more desirable.

[hmscott]

Richdog wrote:
I was speaking purely from the perspective of having one SSD and one mechanical storage drive... hence the SSD would go in the SATA III or M2 port. I don't see much point in having two SSD drives in this laptop.

Richdog, speed and heat reduction, that is why remove the HDD, and have only SSD's.

Even a SATA II port will do better with an SSD than an HDD. 100MB/sec with a 2.5" HDD, and 300MB/sec with an SSD that will do 500MB/sec on SATA III

Difference between SATA I, SATA II and SATA III
http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/8142/~/difference-between-sata-i,-sata-ii-and-sata-iii

The heat generated from a spinning disk is a lot higher than an SSD, and the power draw is higher too. Best to remove that moving part from the laptop and put it in an external USB enclosure. Even a USB 2.0 enclosure would be enough.

I don't understand why the port is showing as a 6gbps port but only running at 3gbps... weird.

Someone, with I think a Crucial M500/M550, said they got SATA III speed throughput tested with CrystalDiskMark from both Bay's, now if I could just find the post...

[Richdog]

hmscott wrote:
Richdog, speed and heat reduction, that is why remove the HDD, and have only SSD's.

Even a SATA II port will do better with an SSD than an HDD. 100MB/sec with a 2.5" HDD, and 300MB/sec with an SSD that will do 500MB/sec on SATA III

Difference between SATA I, SATA II and SATA III
http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/8142/~/difference-between-sata-i,-sata-ii-and-sata-iii

The heat generated from a spinning disk is a lot higher than an SSD, and the power draw is higher too. Best to remove that moving part from the laptop and put it in an external USB enclosure. Even a USB 2.0 enclosure would be enough.

I don't understand why the port is showing as a 6gbps port but only running at 3gbps... weird.

Someone, with I think a Corsair M550, said they got SATA III speeds, now if I could just find the post...

We shall have to agree to disagree on this one hmscott... on a desktop replacement of this size, the tiny and almost insignificant amount of heat put out by a 2.5" HD makes zero practical difference. As a pure storage drive (which is all I need as I will have a 1TB SSD as my OS and games drive), the benefits of a 2TB mechanical drive like the Samsung Spinpoint M9T far outweigh that of an SSD. Much more storage, 8x more GB per dollar. On a storage drive all the average user needs for 99% of scenarios are the speeds afforded by a mechanical drive... an SSD on a SATA II connection and used for that purpose would be largely pointless.