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How to make the G75 ROG notebook truly great

Bojamijams
Level 7
So assuming that the new refresh will be coming out after Ivy Bridge is released (and by then nvidia 600M series should be out too) here are some of the things I think are needed in this line to TRULY make it a gamer notebook and finally, for the first time ever, a capable desktop replacement.

!MUST HAVE!

DisplayPort (HDMI will not drive 2560 resolutions unless there's a new spec out which actually will)

USB 3.0 (Make as many ports as possible USB 3.0)

Thunderbolt (Twice as fast as USB3.0 and allows external graphics adapters)

Digital Output (this is severely lacking on the current G74. You have the combo Headphone/Digital Output on your Xonar U3 USB stick, just use that same idea here)

And while we're on the topic of sound quality, better AMP/DAC then what is on the G74! Again, if nothing else, just take your Xonar U3 USB soundcard and embed it into the notebook (please make sure its properly shielded from noise, properly grounded, and ensure its output impedance is as close to 0 ohm as possible)

nVidia Optimus Technology - This is extremely important. With the 3000 series of embedded graphics on the Ivy Bridge, it'll be possible to play some games without using the dedicated card. This'll allow for gaming on battery which is currently impossible (past the 15-20 minute mark ). Basically the entire gaming catelogue from GOG.COM will be playable with this option and we could get about 2 hours of gaming on battery with this option)

Preferable but not required:

Swap out the D-SUB analog VGA out for DVI-D (Dual Link)


Option for:

Killer Wireless NIC (huge difference in wireless gaming over atheros and even an improvement over Intel NICs)

High end videocard (nvidia 680M) - Please allow us the option of getting a laptop with a true high-end card. The 560M is decent for most things, but it could never act as a desktop replacement

No OS - Other laptop manufacturers offer this option so its possible. Some want Home, some want Professional, some want Ultimate. Let the user decide and skip preloading a version. Please consider saving us the $100-200 dollars.


EDIT: Addendum:

Dual BIOS Switch for upgrading the motherboard BIOS. Small cost to you in design, big saving to you in reduction of RMA's based on failed flashes.


Thoughts?
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Bojamijams wrote:
Does anyone know how to go about getting the message in this thread to the designers of RoG Laptops? I just saw the preview of the G75 and while the user accessible vents are a nice touch , a LOT more is needed.


Today I was looking for the exact same thing 🙂 .
And I have to agree entirely with the OP. I kept searching the past several months for a good gaming laptop that includes a display port or some way to be able to output 1920x1080 @ 120hz to an external monitor. I only found Dell XPS laptops with a GT 555m gpu or the way too expensive Alienware. I'll eventually still get the G75 with a 3d/120hz monitor but it's a shame if it doesn't have a display port ...

chrsplmr
Level 18
yes I do ... and you (all) Just did...
do not think for a second that This goes un noticed.

This is why I believe it is so important to focus on the cures as in this thread.
This would be great if. Not, this sucks because.. hahaha..
Not a wasted byte.

Live Marketing Data... its in there.c.

Just found a reason to want Win7 Pro over Home Premium.

Offline Files (Sync)

This feature is only available to Professional and higher. This is what you need if you want to keep a folder on your laptop (such as Music) synced to the music folder on your home server. As it stands, because I have only Home Premium, I have to use an outdated app to do it and it has to be run everytime I want to do a check.

Just in case a designer thinks no gamer would ever want Pro over home premium.

TonyNRG
Level 7
1. option of getting a laptop with one of a few videocards (like 560m, 570m or 580m - it's an example based on current Nvidia series)
2. dual bios, and better bios updating utility with a good multilingual manual.
3. better gaming keyboard. the current one is good, but for office notebook, not for a gaming one. here's the good example http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81jCRe0h7IL._AA1500_.jpg from samsung.
4. power cable "in" not from right side, but from back side
ASUS G74SX - i7-2670QM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M with 3GB (900\1800\1500), 8GB DDR3 1333 MHz SDRAM, 500GB+500GB 7200rpm WD Scorpio Black, Full HD 3D (1920x1080 120Hz) LED

X-ROG
Level 15
DisplayPort (HDMI will not drive 2560 resolutions unless there's a new spec out which actually will) - done. All models have this.

USB 3.0 (Make as many ports as possible USB 3.0) - Four included.

Thunderbolt (Twice as fast as USB3.0 and allows external graphics adapters) - Available if you require it, but not everyone does nor do they want the extra cost. There are no external graphics adapters available with mass compatibility like a normal graphics card. Sony's one is only compatible with its Ultrabook for example and it doesn't contain an internal high-spec GPU, which most notebooks do. There are many technical, political and market driven reasons why this cannot/won't be done.

Digital Output (this is severely lacking on the current G74. You have the combo Headphone/Digital Output on your Xonar U3 USB stick, just use that same idea here) - Then buy the U3 😉

And while we're on the topic of sound quality, better AMP/DAC then what is on the G74! Again, if nothing else, just take your Xonar U3 USB soundcard and embed it into the notebook (please make sure its properly shielded from noise, properly grounded, and ensure its output impedance is as close to 0 ohm as possible) - Then buy the U3 😉

nVidia Optimus Technology - This is extremely important. With the 3000 series of embedded graphics on the Ivy Bridge, it'll be possible to play some games without using the dedicated card. This'll allow for gaming on battery which is currently impossible (past the 15-20 minute mark ). Basically the entire gaming catelogue from GOG.COM will be playable with this option and we could get about 2 hours of gaming on battery with this option) - It's not available sorry.

Preferable but not required:

Swap out the D-SUB analog VGA out for DVI-D (Dual Link) - HDMI is available, this can be converted to DVI. More people still require dsub in laptops to connect to projectors.


Option for:

Killer Wireless NIC (huge difference in wireless gaming over atheros and even an improvement over Intel NICs) - You are free to upgrade this yourself as the port is identical. Most people do not demand it so we don't burden them with the cost.

High end videocard (nvidia 680M) - Please allow us the option of getting a laptop with a true high-end card. The 560M is decent for most things, but it could never act as a desktop replacement - 680M is not yet available, the part availability will likely be very low, the cost is prohibitive to many, the thermal/power/cooling requirements would make the chassis grossly larger, not to mention an absolute killer to battery life. The G series team feels the 670M gives the best value:performance in all factors. If you want something the size as a DTR then there's an argument for just going mini-ITX desktop! 😉

No OS - Other laptop manufacturers offer this option so its possible. Some want Home, some want Professional, some want Ultimate. Let the user decide and skip preloading a version. Please consider saving us the $100-200 dollars. - To be frank with you, there's no chance sorry. No one does this. You'll have to go to a specialist white-box retailer.


EDIT: Addendum:

Dual BIOS Switch for upgrading the motherboard BIOS. Small cost to you in design, big saving to you in reduction of RMA's based on failed flashes. - Unfortunately BIOS Flashback is not available on this generation :(:(


Thoughts?

I know this thread is labeled G75, but I currently own a 17" laptop (for 5 years now) and can say that moving to 15" would be nice. Since the G55 is the twin brother of the G75 in a smaller form factor, can we expect it to be released around the same time as the G75? And any hints on the release date considering Ivy Bridge has been moved forward to an April 23rd launch?

Will the G75/G55 also feature GeForce GTX 660M 2GB options? I'm currently in the market for a new notebook and want to make sure all the specs are current gen. As such, I want a notebook that features both 22nm Ivy Bridge and 28nm Kepler (yeah, I know, the 660M is supposed to be slightly slower than the 670M, but it also features Kepler's exclusive features and runs a lot cooler thanks to 28nm, giving more battery life and better preventing any possible overheating issues). I make it a policy not to buy rebranded GPU's.

Also, since I've never owned an ASUS ROG laptop before, can users just use the drivers from nVidia's site. I prefer nVidia's drivers as companies can fall behind on driver releases or stop pumping out driver releases once a product gets too old. nVidia, on the other hand, updates their drivers on a regular basis.

As for the DisplayPort on this laptop, is it 1.2?

Finally, when can we expect the Thunderbolt variants? Same day as the G75/G55 launch? Few weeks later? Few months later?