Help choosing new gaming laptop

[Simao]

Hi.

Im thinking in buy a new gaming laptop.
I like Asus, because was my first gaming laptop.
Im divided between Asus G752VS and the MSI GT73VR 6RE, both with GTX 1070 and I7 6820Hk.
I have read here and in another places reviews telling that the G752VS OC edition have overheat problems, hight temps, and hardware problems like the keyboard.
Are this problems resolved?

Some people here said that GT73VR is better. What do you think?

These are the specs of both models

Asus G752VS

I7 6820Hk
GTX 1070
32Gb ram
1Tb with 512Gb SSd (maybe in raid 0, according asus oficial web site of my country)
17"3 full hd screen, 120Hz, around 74% rgb color (again, according asus oficial web site of my country)
With the laptop came one backpack, asus cerburus headset, asus sica mouse
Price: 2300€

MSI GT73VR 6RE

I7 6820Hk
GTX 1070
16Gb ram
1Tb with 256Gb M2 (i dont know what is M2)
17"3 full hd screen, 120Hz, around 97% rgb color
Price: 2370€

Thanks to all

[Armesis]

@Buggsy

That was probably one of the first things i ever did, 5 months ago...It might have helped abit though (cant remember), either that or im simply getting used to the constant stuttering lol.

[MrRuckus]

Armesis wrote:
@Buggsy

That was probably one of the first things i ever did, 5 months ago...It might have helped abit though (cant remember), either that or im simply getting used to the constant stuttering lol.

Hey Armesis, I have the same laptop you do, and have never experienced this stuttering issue. I have run in to a few black screens when loading games but it turned out to be a conflict with an RDP program called teamviewer which I use for work that was running in the background. Have you changed anything hardware wise on the laptop since it was purchased? It almost seems like a HDD loading/stuttering issue from the youtube video that was posted in one of the threads. But I myself have not run into it and load games from my steam library which is on the 1TB mechanical drive.

Have you tried to run furmark by any chance to see if it occurs while running that? Thats a pretty small program that will load the GPU down and shouldn't be bound by any HDD stuttering.

[Armesis]

MrRuckus wrote:
Hey Armesis, I have the same laptop you do, and have never experienced this stuttering issue. I have run in to a few black screens when loading games but it turned out to be a conflict with an RDP program called teamviewer which I use for work that was running in the background. Have you changed anything hardware wise on the laptop since it was purchased? It almost seems like a HDD loading/stuttering issue from the youtube video that was posted in one of the threads. But I myself have not run into it and load games from my steam library which is on the 1TB mechanical drive.

Have you tried to run furmark by any chance to see if it occurs while running that? Thats a pretty small program that will load the GPU down and shouldn't be bound by any HDD stuttering.

No nothing was changed hardware wise at all, nor have i attempted any overclocking either. All my games run from either Steam or Origin and are installed on the 1TB HDD as well. Im downloading Furmark now, will test it later and i'll let you know the results, thanks.

fyi games do run very smoothly on this laptop at max settings, SW Battlefront, BF4. Basically 'A' title games seem to run fine. Its other games that stutter to varying degree. The worst is Running with Rifles, an old game yeah, but still...

[Hitchy]

Armesis wrote:
No nothing was changed hardware wise at all, nor have i attempted any overclocking either. All my games run from either Steam or Origin and are installed on the 1TB HDD as well. Im downloading Furmark now, will test it later and i'll let you know the results, thanks.

fyi games do run very smoothly on this laptop at max settings, SW Battlefront, BF4. Basically 'A' title games seem to run fine. Its other games that stutter to varying degree. The worst is Running with Rifles, an old game yeah, but still...

Try running your games from a SSD maybe? And to complete the test try cloning your hole HDD to an SSD and see if theres difference... Thats my little contribution to you

Good luck

[Buggsy]

Hey Armesis. Just a thought. I know you have posted this before, but I don't know where anymore. Please list the old games that don't work well.

[Armesis]

Buggsy wrote:
Hey Armesis. Just a thought. I know you have posted this before, but I don't know where anymore. Please list the old games that don't work well.

Running with rifles - very bad stuttering
TES Oblivion - stutters sometimes, mostly right before an arrow hits an enemy
7 days to die - random stuttering
Rome total war - random stuttering
Fallout new vegas - random stuttering, lasts abit longer than normal

The games that dont stutter -

BF4 - Not that much at all with the new drivers
SW Battlefront - no stutter
killing floor 2 - no stutter
Borderlands 2 - no stutter

I have alot more games in my library, more installed, but i really dont actually play them. Creature of habit...

@Hitchy - Ive got about 300GB worth of games installed on the HDD and the SSD is only 128GB 😞
I will try to install some games on the SSD and see if theres a difference, but im expecting it will still have problems. People with the same problem with mine have done exactly that and have had no success. I'll try it and will update you, thanks.

[Buggsy]

Ahh, so at a glance those are mostly (or all) DX9 games. That's rough. DX9 was not transitioned gracefully. Firstly, have you tried this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3oatuw/those_of_you_gaming_on_windows_10_heres_how_i/

I'm not sure off hand how to improve that, but I have a copy of Oblivion that I can install and play with. Is it possible within any of these games to change the video render settings?

And secondly, check out tool like this.
http://www.traynier.com/software/steammover

It's just a tool to copy your games around and make symbolic links. Install your games to the SSD and move them to the HDD when you are done. I had a 128 GB SSD, and kept about 1 game on at a time. Well a big game, I had things like FTL on it without any consequence.

[Armesis]

@Buggsy

The Timer Tool utility didnt make a difference, the current timing was 15ms, and went to 0.5ms whenever any game was run anyway.

The second solution to move steam games into the SSD seems to have done the trick though 🙂
I moved Running with Rifles and Oblivion to the C: SSD and it runs very smoothly with no lag whatsoever! Although this does not fully solve the problem (why do they lag on the 😧 HDD???), maybe i can play older games on the SSD and newer ones on the conventional drive, since they do not suffer this...

I dont know whether to celebrate or to feel even more confused at this point, im just burned out with all this over the months. I'll put Rome Total War onto the SSD and see how it goes.

For now at least, thanks for you help Buggsy. If you dont see me around these forums anymore, that will be a good sign. Cheers!

[Hitchy]

Armesis wrote:
@Buggsy

The Timer Tool utility didnt make a difference, the current timing was 15ms, and went to 0.5ms whenever any game was run anyway.

The second solution to move steam games into the SSD seems to have done the trick though 🙂
I moved Running with Rifles and Oblivion to the C: SSD and it runs very smoothly with no lag whatsoever! Although this does not fully solve the problem (why do they lag on the 😧 HDD???), maybe i can play older games on the SSD and newer ones on the conventional drive, since they do not suffer this...

I dont know whether to celebrate or to feel even more confused at this point, im just burned out with all this over the months. I'll put Rome Total War onto the SSD and see how it goes.

For now at least, thanks for you help Buggsy. If you dont see me around these forums anymore, that will be a good sign. Cheers!

Glad to see that my little advice helped you 🙂

To push things further and understand why your HDD causes those stuttering , you should check what mode is your HDD under UEFI BIOS : is it IDE ou AHCI? It should be AHCI but we never know... But dont do under this for now, enjoy your experience and test to see if things are right for at leat a weak before trying understand what causes stuttering from HDD!

Enjoy your ASUS Gaming experience 😉

[Armesis]

Hitchy wrote:
Glad to see that my little advice helped you 🙂

To push things further and understand why your HDD causes those stuttering , you should check what mode is your HDD under UEFI BIOS : is it IDE ou AHCI? It should be AHCI but we never know... But dont do under this for now, enjoy your experience and test to see if things are right for at leat a weak before trying understand what causes stuttering from HDD!

Enjoy your ASUS Gaming experience 😉

Thanks for that, i can now really enjoy these games for once lol. I'll check that out and see whats what.

@Buggsy - I'll try that out too, but for now im just taking a holiday from all this lol. Enjoying the games for once 🙂