Help choosing new gaming laptop

[Simao]

Hi.

Im thinking in buy a new gaming laptop.
I like Asus, because was my first gaming laptop.
Im divided between Asus G752VS and the MSI GT73VR 6RE, both with GTX 1070 and I7 6820Hk.
I have read here and in another places reviews telling that the G752VS OC edition have overheat problems, hight temps, and hardware problems like the keyboard.
Are this problems resolved?

Some people here said that GT73VR is better. What do you think?

These are the specs of both models

Asus G752VS

I7 6820Hk
GTX 1070
32Gb ram
1Tb with 512Gb SSd (maybe in raid 0, according asus oficial web site of my country)
17"3 full hd screen, 120Hz, around 74% rgb color (again, according asus oficial web site of my country)
With the laptop came one backpack, asus cerburus headset, asus sica mouse
Price: 2300€

MSI GT73VR 6RE

I7 6820Hk
GTX 1070
16Gb ram
1Tb with 256Gb M2 (i dont know what is M2)
17"3 full hd screen, 120Hz, around 97% rgb color
Price: 2370€

Thanks to all

[Buggsy]

Armesis wrote:
That sounds nice, but unfortunately there are alot of people who do not enjoy awesome gaming experiences with it, but rather endless misery (like mine). Could you help with our problem maybe? There are numerous threads on the net, but no one seems to be able to solve it -
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?89283-playing-almost-any-game-is-unbareable-please-read
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?89495-screen-tearing-stutter-lag-in-single-player-games

I was actually the first reply to that user. Either he didn't try my suggestions, or he didn't say they didn't work. Either of the two fixes I listed have solved a lot of people's problem. And if Asus can't fix it, then it's time to insist on a replacement. You should do the same if your new laptop is useless for gaming.
I'm honestly not trying to take away your opinion, but I'm trying to add that these bad experiences do not speak for the entire user base.

[Armesis]

Buggsy wrote:
I was actually the first reply to that user. Either he didn't try my suggestions, or he didn't say they didn't work. Either of the two fixes I listed have solved a lot of people's problem. And if Asus can't fix it, then it's time to insist on a replacement. You should do the same if your new laptop is useless for gaming.
I'm honestly not trying to take away your opinion, but I'm trying to add that these bad experiences do not speak for the entire user base.

I tried the first one, and the second one is not applicable to my case ( i dont have any autodesk products). Still the problem persists, i'll keep looking for solutions. Please keep posting on the thread if you have any ideas, thanks.

[Buggsy]

Armesis wrote:
I tried the first one, and the second one is not applicable to my case ( i dont have any autodesk products). Still the problem persists, i'll keep looking for solutions. Please keep posting on the thread if you have any ideas, thanks.

Just take a look at this instructions from Autodesk. Just substitute your application (like a benchmark app, your video game...) instead of "Autodesk Composite". It's the one way to be 100% sure that you are getting your GPU and not using the integrated graphics.

[Armesis]

Buggsy wrote:
Just take a look at this instructions from Autodesk. Just substitute your application (like a benchmark app, your video game...) instead of "Autodesk Composite". It's the one way to be 100% sure that you are getting your GPU and not using the integrated graphics.

I'll try that, fyi all my power settings and nvidia control settings are already on high power/performance modes. I was one of the first things i ever did, months ago. Thanks.

[Armesis]

Buggsy wrote:
Just take a look at this instructions from Autodesk. Just substitute your application (like a benchmark app, your video game...) instead of "Autodesk Composite". It's the one way to be 100% sure that you are getting your GPU and not using the integrated graphics.

Strange, i do not have Option 2 - Set the desired graphics processor for this program.

I only have the 1st and 3rd option. Many people in thread have the same problem...

Edit - Apparently Asus have disabled the integrated graphics processor for the G752 series

"Asus has it disabled for a reason it uses the GTX card only as its a gaming laptop. Intel graphics card cannot be enabled , Optimus is an awful feature to have on a gaming laptop only causes problems"

This quote was from here -https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?85039-Possible-to-Enable-Asus-ROG-G752-Integrated-Graphics

[Buggsy]

Armesis wrote:
Strange, i do not have Option 2 - Set the desired graphics processor for this program.

I only have the 1st and 3rd option. Many people in thread have the same problem...

Edit - Apparently Asus have disabled the integrated graphics processor for the G752 series

"Asus has it disabled for a reason it uses the GTX card only as its a gaming laptop. Intel graphics card cannot be enabled , Optimus is an awful feature to have on a gaming laptop only causes problems"

This quote was from here -https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?85039-Possible-to-Enable-Asus-ROG-G752-Integrated-Graphics

That's awesome! Optimus has been the bane of gaming laptops, even though it was basically created for gaming laptops. It's usually a BIOS setting, but most laptops don't seem to open access to disable it that way.

[Armesis]

We can get that out of the way then. The search for a solution continues.

[Buggsy]

Armesis wrote:
We can get that out of the way then. The search for a solution continues.

I don't want to hijack this thread anymore than we have. However, it seems that you have unfortunately been stuck with a known issue with the GTX 1070. It doesn't matter if it's a laptop or desktop chip, MSI or Gigabyte, it's just randomly some GTX 1070's suffer. Last I saw about that was that nVidia was working on a solution. This is new enough that anyone with a 1070 should still be in warranty. Insist on a replacement (refurbished) laptop. I think that's the quickest solution as nVida has been working on this for months.

[Armesis]

Buggsy wrote:
I don't want to hijack this thread anymore than we have. However, it seems that you have unfortunately been stuck with a known issue with the GTX 1070. It doesn't matter if it's a laptop or desktop chip, MSI or Gigabyte, it's just randomly some GTX 1070's suffer. Last I saw about that was that nVidia was working on a solution. This is new enough that anyone with a 1070 should still be in warranty. Insist on a replacement (refurbished) laptop. I think that's the quickest solution as nVida has been working on this for months.

My G752VY has the GTX980M. It was only 2 weeks after i bought the laptop did Nvidia announce the new 1000 series lol. This is the nature of pc gaming, walk out of a shop with your new machine and it almost immediately becomes obsolete.

@Tyceon - Yes i will never purchase another ROG laptop, but to be balanced i will say that ASUS desktop chipsets are very good. Ive been using them since the 90s and have never had any issues whatsoever.

[Buggsy]

Armesis wrote:
My G752VY has the GTX980M. It was only 2 weeks after i bought the laptop did Nvidia announce the new 1000 series lol. This is the nature of pc gaming, walk out of a shop with your new machine and it almost immediately becomes obsolete.

@Tyceon - Yes i will never purchase another ROG laptop, but to be balanced i will say that ASUS desktop chipsets are very good. Ive been using them since the 90s and have never had any issues whatsoever.

Oooh, I guess I knew that was a possibility, but I forgot. With a 980M, try to remove the ROG Game First application. It's a network traffic prioritization application, but it is known to cause strutting for some.