G75VX at best buy, SSD upgrade and generic video drivers?

[noneone]

Hi all!

I see BB now has the VX AND the VW for sale in my area.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+17.3%22+Laptop+-+8GB+Memory+-+1TB+Hard+Drive+-+Black/7674057.p?id...

I hear the VX can't use generic nvidia drivers, but the VW can, AND, I've heard its hard to get an SSD as the boot drive since VX doesn't have a way to make win 8 recovery discs.

I think I want the VX, can anyone point to articles on how to get around / fix those issues, IF they're true? Can anyone confirm or deny? AND .. any other issues with the VX over the VW before I go vx?

Thanks!

[noneone]

Mike_Lu@ASUS wrote:
i think anyone meet problem is difference, if you want to know i think you can search a little bit by youself at ROG, google etc..
it is hard to say in there.

Not so much Mike. Links in this thread lead to information that is unclear. One poster already said they couldn't figure it out and put win7 on their SSD.

Pretty pis poor design on Asus end to equip their machines with terrible gaming hard drives (both on the G75VX and the G46) pratically forcing folks to upgrade, and then making it so hard to get an OS on the new upgraded HD.

So why again won't Asus allow its users to make install DVD or CD so they can easily upgrade their hard drives?

Generic google search and rog search here didn't turn up any obvious, easy solutions on how to take the OS from the HD that comes with the ASUS and put it on an upgraded SSD.

Thanks Mike!

[killerbicycle]

I was running into this problem as well. I made several attempts at cloning with Macrium and Easeus, but it turned out to be a waste of time in the end. I gave up on trying to get windows 8 on my SSD and instead I installed windows 7 onto it and used the G75VW drivers. Installing windows 7 and the VW drivers was painless compared to messing with windows 8.

As far as Generic Nvidia Drivers go, the only thing needed to use them is dropping in a modified nvam into the installation folder. So far I have not had any problems gaming with the 314.10 drivers.

[rewben]

@noneone,

if you have watched the videos posted by @cosmicmango, i really don't see anything that are not clear about cloning / imaging with MR. furthermore, @DRAKON's post clearly described the cloning process (and from the positive feedback of many users, this is by far the easiest to accomplish - imo that's even more efficient and straight forward than ASUS recovery CDs).

as for the report by @killerbicycle, it's rather unclear as of how he did the cloning that could lead to failure using Macrium Reflect.

[noneone]

rewben wrote:
@noneone,

if you have watched the videos posted by @cosmicmango, i really don't see anything that are not clear about cloning / imaging with MR. furthermore, @DRAKON's post clearly described the cloning process (and from the positive feedback of many users, this is by far the easiest to accomplish - imo that's even more efficient and straight forward than ASUS recovery CDs).

as for the report by @killerbicycle, it's rather unclear as of how he did the cloning that could lead to failure using Macrium Reflect.

1) That thread seems to require recommend reformating partitions. Not really interested. Clean restore DVD's wouldn't have this issue.
2) " When I have both drives having the OS I have troubles using the restore option on any of them. So far the only solution I found is to temporary unplug one of the hard drives, restore the one I want and then plug it back in." Sounds like a PITA.


Really rewben, I've looked at the posts. Yes there are workarounds. THEY ALL SEEM LIKE A PITA. May be easy to you, but, one method needs repartitioning, another method you lose the origonal restore partition, another method you have to plug or unplug one of the drives temporarily.

There really doesn't seem to be a good step by step walk through. OR an easy method.

Restoring / installing an OS really really should be painless and plug and play. It's clearly NOT, Asus has chosen, for some reason, to make it difficult.

On my Alieneare, it was easy. Pull out HDD move to slot 2. Put SSD in slot 1. Boot off of DVD windows restore disk, install to SSD. Enjoy new SSD.

[rewben]

noneone wrote:
1) That thread seems to require recommend reformating partitions. Not really interested. Clean restore DVD's wouldn't have this issue.
2) " When I have both drives having the OS I have troubles using the restore option on any of them. So far the only solution I found is to temporary unplug one of the hard drives, restore the one I want and then plug it back in." Sounds like a PITA.


Really rewben, I've looked at the posts. Yes there are workarounds. THEY ALL SEEM LIKE A PITA. May be easy to you, but, one method needs repartitioning, another method you lose the origonal restore partition, another method you have to plug or unplug one of the drives temporarily.

There really doesn't seem to be a good step by step walk through. OR an easy method.

Restoring / installing an OS really really should be painless and plug and play. It's clearly NOT, Asus has chosen, for some reason, to make it difficult.

On my Alieneare, it was easy. Pull out HDD move to slot 2. Put SSD in slot 1. Boot off of DVD windows restore disk, install to SSD. Enjoy new SSD.

ok now i got your meanings haha! nevermind; just to let you know you have a lot of options to fix things 🙂

[noneone]

rewben wrote:
ok now i got your meanings haha! nevermind; just to let you know you have a lot of options to fix things 🙂

Ya. Its the combo with Asus of making "almost" great stuff. They put the slowest, non gaming hard drives in their machines, which might be OK to keep costs down, but then, make it harder than most other companies to upgrade to better stuff. It's the G46 not having a simple panel to replace the slow HD they put in it. Yes, there are workarounds, but, why? Why non standard video drivers on the G75VX that require a work around? Why sound workarounds on the G75vw?

yes, with the asus we can work around this and work around that, but, most of the things seem so freaking obvious to have been made easy .....

I was hoping there was easy way to get OS on SSD, and generic drivers for the VX before I bought one.

/frustrated

[DRAKON]

Maybe I can clarify something. When having OS on both drives for some reason the windows recovery doesn't work any more ( as far as I understand the problem and the necessity for disconnecting one of the hard drives ). This however is not really needed. Once you have macrium reflect installed on the old HDD you can always change the boot option, login to the old OS and copy it once again to the SDD instead of trying to restore the windows on the SDD. The only reason for having OS and restore partition on both would be to have backup copy of the original OS in case one of the drives fails.

p.s. Sorry if the problem is elsewhere but I haven't got into details from previous posts ( just lack of time at the moment ).

[Draugrs]

Noneone,

I just upgraded my G75VX from Win 8 1TB HDD to OCZ SSD using the thread topic about Macrium. I used the free version and cloned Source HDD to Destination SSD. I removed HDD after completion from tray 1 slot and put SSD in its location. I booted and everything went flawless. I then placed HDD in tray 2 slot and rebooted with success again. The SSD makes a huge difference in performance.

I will admit the work around for NVIDIA drivers is a hassle but it is only adding a few lines to the NVAM file. I don't mind and actually makes it seem somewhat rogue to do so. At any rate, I have found the G75VX with GTX 670MX an awesome system and upgrading it so far is pain free. I mean at least I did not have to wait for star and planet alignments with a barometric pressure equal to...

I replaced my 2009 XPS M1730 with this system. It is light years better. I hope you have better luck noneone!

[rewben]

@noneone, yeah; i understand your frustrations. let's hope things get better with time 🙂