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G752VY with NVidia Geforce 980M Performance Issues

hordelover
Level 7
Today I got my new Laptop (ASUS G752VY-DH78K), system specs are in my profile. Anyway, I did a benchmark with 3DMark and I was very disappointed. For a top-of-the-line gaming laptop with all the best specs, how can I be getting such bad performance?

Here's the test results: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/10389101
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JustinThyme wrote:
Make up your mind already. Is it 8650, 8500 or 8600 or 8700?

3Dmark links and screen shots or it didn't happen. I can say I topped 10K all day without changing anything. Im from Missouri, the show me state.
The age of my eyes must be deceiving me because I cant see your links.

Im not saying the performace of the VY any is better, equal if anything. My 3D mark link shows score and stock clocks with nothing but moving a slider.


Well if you read carefully you will see I said I am always above 8600, max 8650 with stock settings and default control panel from nvidia. Here is the link of a test I did just now. Stock clocks as you can see on the site.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/10433499

And here is a test where I put single display performance and high performance on control panel in nvidia.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/10433622

Most of the time it's around 8700, also base clocks as you can see if you scroll down on the site.

As I said the difference is really small, but the temperatures are much better on the G752, but the price is also higher.
Seems your 980M has 1 MHz more then mine, but has lower graphics score, but better physics score from your procesor.
Also nice you have 32 gigs of DDR4 ram with nice speed, mine is only 1600 😞
Seems it doesn't change the performance almost at all.
No need to be rude bro.

JustinThyme
Level 13
No need to go to name calling Bro. Nothing I posted was unreasonable. If you have frequented any tech forum you will know that BS is the most likely explanation when there are no screen shots or Benchmark links. Rude IMO is posting in a thread about G752VY owner saying he is having performance issues saying.........
"The G751JY has around 8500 score on firestrike so it outperforms the G752VY ! ! ! "So there is a difference of around +200 points for in G751JY, but there will a lot of drivers that will make skylake run smoothly and better over time but you won't outperform the G751JY." "those 200-300 points isn't that much of a difference"
What 200-300 points? Is this common core math?

Thanks for your benchmarks, that's all I really wanted.

Your first comment was the 751 scores round 8500 so it outperforms the 752. I've surpassed the 8500, sitting right now at just under 8600 and confident I can get it in the 8700 range on stock clocks, even though it isn't capable of coming within 200-300 points of the 751.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/10436567



“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, I'm not sure about the former” ~ Albert Einstein

Dude, you are the one that went all American on my ass.
I'm from some state bla bla, the SHOW ME state...I laughed my ass so hard there...so please....
I'm from south east Europe and let me tell you one thing....Americans don't impress me. You think Texas is badass...
When you vomit out so much 'Murica in one post...I can't help but bury you in the hole you dug yourself into.

And where is this name calling you are talking about? The "bro" part?
Man what doesn't offend people these days...I can't even...
It seems the "that offends me" generation is taking its toll on the internet....Stop being insulted by everything...it wont' get you far in life bro. (yes...there I said it again)
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Yes I came to this post because people are complaining about 8300+ performance on G752VY and everyone was saying it's this it's that...no...it's NORMAL.
Yes you maybe have like extra 50 points because you have 32 gigs of ram, and maybe another 50 points if you are running 3D mark on your beast 512 gig SSD that I can see.

But MOST of the reviews on YouTube and PC selling web sites give the G752 around 8400 score on firestrike.
So I came here to say it is normal...

You got one of the better G752 because most of them have problems going above 8400.
There is solid evidence on the internet that the 752VY has scores around 8400 and the G751JY has around 8600. So that is what I call a 200 difference.
Also my laptop is OVER A YEAR old now, and I never did a clean install with DDU of the graphics driver or new windows, and a lot of drivers have been changed on this laptop. So I bet if I do a clean install of the graphics drivers it would be around 8700 without touching the control panel...


There is a thing called average... it goes like this...from 1000x G752VY the average is below 8400...and average from 1000x G751JY is above 8500. That means aprox. 8550-8350=200 points. Yes that is called math, I hope it didn't sound rude as when you were saying it.
Tho I have proved that a well maintained G751JY should be above 8600 with everything on stock...well over 8600, more like 8650, but I won't take my laptop in to account because it's a bit better than average (that is why I said we are taking standard values of the series).

If you read my post again it was more then normal and fair, I said I would prefer to have the 752VY because of the temperatures, and 200 points is around 1 frame. I said it will probably get better during the first few months anyway so I expect the gap to close at around 100 points max. You should account around 20-30 points in to marginal error also, and depends on how well the person using the laptop is filling it with crap (bloatware, and windows 10 usless programs that keep running in the background)

Get that stick out of your ass please if you want to talk to me again.

I came here to say that I would PREFER the G752, and that the score is normal, but the temps are more then great.
Also performance depends based on different procs, and skylake is getting patched non stop. So I would expect to see an increase. Get rid of the junk software on windows 10, clean your registry etc... It's killing your laptop (to the guys below 8400).

JustinThyme
Level 13
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“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, I'm not sure about the former” ~ Albert Einstein

JasenDoe
Level 7
Nice comeback man, tell me how does it feel to get rekt on your own language?
Btw I was confused by your "core math" statement, I find it disturbing you don't know it's called BASIC math...that seems like lack of knowledge of math and grammar of your native language.

MrRuckus
Level 10
Its sad when the ROG forums are being overrun with garbage like this. Come on guys. Both the G751/G752 are awesome laptops. No need to bash each other over 200 points in 3DMark. 😐

Back on topic, I was debating the DH78K but couldn't justify the price difference. It also wasn't available at the time I purchased the DH72. Once I learned the screen was the same as the DH72, I wasn't seeing enough difference to justify the price (initially there was talk of a 4k screen in the DH78K as well, which turned out to be false). I have friends with the MSI/Gigabyte 8GB 980's and there's no real difference in todays games, especially at 1080p. Hard drive and ram can be upgraded later if need be. At least Asus was nice enough to use two 16GB sticks so upgrading RAM to 64GB would be easier then say four 8GB sticks.

To the OP: You gotta do a little research. You can OC your processor which a lot of us cannot do since you have the "6700HK", but you'll have to keep your temps in check. It looks like the 980M in the G752 starts to throttle past 75C, which is a little disappointing. My old G750 with the 780M could go to 100C before it throttled. But in any case, a processor overclock is probably going to do little for you compared to a GPU overclock. You just have to find that bleeding edge before you start to throttle and keep the CPU/GPU at those clocks. Good luck & nice laptop!
(ROG has simply become too expensive compared to the competition with same specs... 😞 )
MSI GE75 Raider 10SGS - i7 10750H - RTX 2080 Super - 32GB Ram - 1TB WD NVMe - 2TB 960 EVO - 300Hz 17inch Display
RETIRED: ALIENWARE R17 R5 - i7 8750H - GTX 1070 @ 1.9Ghz - 16GB DDR4 - NVMe 970 EVO 1TB - SSD 960 EVO 1TB
SOLD: ASUS G703VI-XH74K, RETIRED: ASUS G752VY-DH72, RETIRED: ASUS G750JH DB71 , RETIRED:ASUS G74Sx DH72

JasenDoe wrote:
Nice comeback man, tell me how does it feel to get rekt on your own language?
Btw I was confused by your "core math" statement, I find it disturbing you don't know it's called BASIC math...that seems like lack of knowledge of math and grammar of your native language.



Just as I thought, that's really all its about to you isn't it? Are you proud of yourself that you have mastered common core math? Come back for a debate when you have acheived grammar school basics in command of syntax.


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MrRuckus wrote:
Its sad when the ROG forums are being overrun with garbage like this. Come on guys. Both the G751/G752 are awesome laptops. No need to bash each other over 200 points in 3DMark. 😐

Back on topic, I was debating the DH78K but couldn't justify the price difference. It also wasn't available at the time I purchased the DH72. Once I learned the screen was the same as the DH72, I wasn't seeing enough difference to justify the price (initially there was talk of a 4k screen in the DH78K as well, which turned out to be false). I have friends with the MSI/Gigabyte 8GB 980's and there's no real difference in todays games, especially at 1080p. Hard drive and ram can be upgraded later if need be. At least Asus was nice enough to use two 16GB sticks so upgrading RAM to 64GB would be easier then say four 8GB sticks.

To the OP: You gotta do a little research. You can OC your processor which a lot of us cannot do since you have the "6700HK", but you'll have to keep your temps in check. It looks like the 980M in the G752 starts to throttle past 75C, which is a little disappointing. My old G750 with the 780M could go to 100C before it throttled. But in any case, a processor overclock is probably going to do little for you compared to a GPU overclock. You just have to find that bleeding edge before you start to throttle and keep the CPU/GPU at those clocks. Good luck & nice laptop!


I agree and bought the DH72 for very much the same reason.



“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, I'm not sure about the former” ~ Albert Einstein

I know 4 languages, and English is one of them, but not my main language. If you count Serbian (+Montenegro), Bosnian and Croatian a different language then I talk 6 languages.
And still I mopped the floor with your tongue. Seems you know only how to post pictures when you have nothing to say and getting stomped on.
You are a spoiled rich American, and I am glad you got rekt in a debate. Imagine only if we could debate on my native language...dam...

To the other poster, that is all I was saying, 200 points isn't a big difference (and there is evidence that there is an aprox. 200 points difference, but this guy has a hard time counting anything above his fingers limit) and the temperatures are a big difference which is more important.
The price between the 751 and 752 is also a big difference, at least here where I live. I said at least 5 times what I prefer and what is better.

But this kid only saw that I said 751 > 752 in score and sh!t hit the fan in his head... well his head is full of sh!t anyway that's why it non stop hitting the fan and making him spill out sh!t from all the holes on his face... If you need one more hole in your head I can help you with that...

Edweird
Level 10
All of the above seems excessively unnecessary.

The scores this G752 got are veeeery slightly higher than my G751, which I would think is odd, considering I'm running stock settings on a 4710/GTX980/16GB-1600 machine with just a 250GB 850 EVO in it. Still, within reasonable boundaries. The G752 isn't a major upgrade over the G751 performance-wise...temps are much more important imo, and as was stated before.

What is weird is the supposedly much better CPU and DDR4 not getting you much more performance.

Edweird wrote:
All of the above seems excessively unnecessary.

The scores this G752 got are veeeery slightly higher than my G751, which I would think is odd, considering I'm running stock settings on a 4710/GTX980/16GB-1600 machine with just a 250GB 850 EVO in it. Still, within reasonable boundaries. The G752 isn't a major upgrade over the G751 performance-wise...temps are much more important imo, and as was stated before.

What is weird is the supposedly much better CPU and DDR4 not getting you much more performance.


Thank you!

I couldn't agree more. . So far the only advantage noted on the new platform is lower power consumption. the removal of the 32GB RAM limit (if that means anything to you) and a fresh new look. Comparing the two machines some test a little higher and some test lower but always within a small margin and highly dependent on exactly who is doing the testing.

MR Doe seems to be more interested in discrediting other peoples machines and personal attacks to inflate his own ego, It is truly sad to see when someone has to revert to such tactics in an effort to feel better about themselves. Spoiled Rich American? Is that what you think about people from different nations or is this just your hatred for all Americans? I do OK for myself these days. I grew up in a family with 6 kids on the salary of a US Marine which at least Americans will be able to deduce that we were dirt poor. My hand me down clothes were recycled hand me downs with pants having knee patches 3 deep and the ankles more like capri pants. Meat was a once a week treat. Lots or rice and starches though. Two masters degrees I achieved were all from hard work, nothing was given to me, ever. I teach my children the same values, hard work and accountability. So if someone working their backside off for years to climb out of poverty and teaches their children to excel on their own merit and contribute to society instead of being a burden on it is what is considered as a spoiled rich american...That makes me one of the most spoiled rich Americans in existence today and I consider it a compliment.

Thank you Mr Doe for calling me a kid! First time in better than 40 years I have heard that one! You did manage a compliment in your never ending rambling of sophomoric insults. You make assumptions on things you know nothing about which only proves your evident lack of character. Now that I know where you live that explains your hostilities, I would be hostile too. Name calling is not debate, its childish behavior that is expected on the playground in schools, please keep your behavior there. Pictures truly are worth 1000 words. I will not be responding to you further unless you decide to approach this in an adult fashion.



“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, I'm not sure about the former” ~ Albert Einstein