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G752VT clean install - some issues found and questions

Dr4g0n36
Level 10
SOLUTION FOUND, READ ENTIRE POST


HI, i've received a brand new G752VT-T7005T a couple of days ago. During this two days i've found some little issues (dvd writer starts load randomly even if empty, usb ports sometimes refresh during copy and doing a new folder wherever i want shows up only after pressing F5) that convince me to do a fresh install (like every "G" received in the last 6 years);

Assuming that i'm running Windows on a Samsung m.2 SSD 128gb installed onto IRST controller LOCKED into RAID mode, thats what i've found:


    Doing a fresh bootable media of Windows 10 update 1155 (UEFI mode) using a USB 3.0 drive (fully working) don't show up in boot selection, using a 2.0 it works.


    To recognize the m.2 drive, you have to load onto your usb drive IRST drivers, used in the section of disks research; IRST provided from ASUS website crash (blue screen IRQL), but with THIS the setup will recognize SSD and will work fine.

My questions:

    there's a way to modify m.2 mode that's actually locked (grey selection) in RAID mode (i have to load RAID driver to install, no way to set in AHCI)?


    if i buy a new Samsung to make a RAID 0, how i can enter into a RAID section to configure it?


    searching on the net, all SSD same of mine that are on sell are named "AHCI", there's something wrong if i buy it to make my RAID?

Thanks for replies.

ACTUALLY WITH 205 BIOS THERE'S NO WAY TO SET IN RAID MODE 2 SSD EVEN IF MACHINE IS ONLY IN RAID BOOT MODE (UNIQUE SELECTION POSSIBLE IN BIOS SETUP). RAID PROTOCOL IS ENABLED ONLY FOR THE IRST COMMUNICATION PORT (SSD IS NATIVE RAID/AHCI SO IS NOT A SATA DRIVE).

EDIT: MINI GUIDE FOR A FULL WORKING MACHINE WITH CLEAN INSTALL
Here's a mini guide step by step to have a fully working G752 with a clean install:

  • Download from Microsoft website using this tool last ISO of Windows 10 Home x64
  • Burn onto a USB 2.0 (3.0 actually doesn't be recognized from 205 BIOS) drive using rufus (select first the downloaded ISO an then select GPT partitioning)
  • Download from here lastest Intel RAID driver and simply insert unzipped folder onto USB drive
  • OPTIONAL: if you want to install Windows 10 PRO version instead of home, you have to insert into bootable USB, after creating it, this file "ei.cfg" in SOURCE folder (Google for ei.cfg creation)
  • OPTIONAL: remove secondary HDD to avoid issue/unwanted loss of data, you can reload it when you will reach desktop for the first time, after first user shutdown
  • Turn on PC pressing ESC until you see boot list, select your USB drive and go on
  • Windows setup will automatically find your Windows 10 serial from UEFI bios so you will not be prompted for wich Windows version you want to install
  • Arrived in disk selection setup you will see no disk attached. Select "load driver" and use the driver downloaded from previous step, wait for a while and you will se Samsung m.2 drive
  • delete all partitions, hit next and setup will automatically recereate UEFI structure (because SSD already is GPT formatted)
  • Proceed for the rest of installation like normal one (inserting account, wifi, etc.)

Once reached Desktop for first time, my hint is to turn notebook onto airplane mode (FN+F2 doesn't work anymore, you have to install first the app) using the button placed in wifi panel.
Proceed (if you haven't do this step before format) with the download and installation of all package (better if downloaded from a parallel PC so you don't enable Windows to download updates while downloading drivers) from ASUS website except for this three one:

  • Nvidia GPU drivers here
  • ASUS Spendid Utility here
  • Realtek audio driver: use ASUS driver
  • ASUS Sonic Suite 2 here

So if you do anything correct you will have to download this list from ASUS support page:
54092
Reboot when prompted and at the end re-enable wifi.

SSD OPTIMIZATION:
Heres a couple of trick to optimize SSD life and speed:

  • launch CMD with admin privileges and type "powercfg /h off"
  • under System --> Advanced turn off Paging file by selecting it and disabling automatic mode (reboot)
  • search for "defrag" select manage and disable it
  • in Device manager select SSD properties and thick the selection "disable Buffer unload" (we have battery that can supply power shortage)


LAST HINT:
If you have the "Num Lock" Windows 10 issue (no Num Lock at startup) see here:

  • Launch Regedit
  • Navigate to: HKEY_USERS --> .DEFAULT -->Control Panel --> Keyboard
  • Find "InitialKeyboardIndicators" key
  • Add "+2" at the value (if you have 2147483648 type 2147483650)
  • Reboot


SSD PERFORMANCE:
For people that found pathetic write speed recognized with SSD's program benchmark, it's not a driver issue or incompatibilty, if you search for the spec of MZVLV128 Samsung m.2 drive you will find that this drive can read up to 1500 MB/s and write only 150 MB/s . So the only problem found is that ASUS decided to install "crappy" entry level SSD.
54095

EDIT 2: after release of BIOS 213 you can simply select from Chipset page wich mode you want to channel operate (AHCI or RAID) that cannot be selected in previous version. If you want to boot from a 2,5" SSD/HDD now you can select "AHCI" and Windows 10 setup now will be able to recognize SATA drive as boot device. Also we are discussing if is better leave NVMe drives with RAID protocol or re-install / convert to AHCI protocol (discussion con be found HERE )
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DeltaActual wrote:
16 seconds boot up, 6seconds shot down .


Then, mine is probably normal since you have 500gb drive and I heard it is a bit faster? On Bios Version 205 though, I had about 14sec boot and shutdown. This is without ahci option in bios.

Thanks anyway.

Julskey wrote:
Then, mine is probably normal since you have 500gb drive and I heard it is a bit faster? On Bios Version 205 though, I had about 14sec boot and shutdown. This is without ahci option in bios.

Thanks anyway.

Yes, normally all 256gig SSD are a bit slower than their brothers with 512 gig of storage because 512 gig are "double-face" (2x256 for side) so write and read could be done simoultaneously per face.

Did you made optimization for SSD listed in my first post?

Dr4g0n36 wrote:
Yes, normally all 256gig SSD are a bit slower than their brothers with 512 gig of storage because 512 gig are "double-face" (2x256 for side) so write and read could be done simoultaneously per face.

Did you made optimization for SSD listed in my first post?


I just did optimization for ssd. No or little change in boot and shutdown times. i'm going to keep it anyway. Is it advisable to run defrag from time to time?

Thanks.

Julskey wrote:
I just did optimization for ssd. No or little change in boot and shutdown times. i'm going to keep it anyway. Is it advisable to run defrag from time to time?

Thanks.


NEVER run defrag on a SSD drive XD. Trim is the technology that "auto-defrag" the drive (geek pass me this quick explain). Doing defrag will only drastically reduce SSD life.

Defrag concept can't be applied to SSD technology. Defrag move similar files one near another to reduce disk seek and rotation, but SSD has a chip controller that seek into chip flash memory so defrag benefit are unapplicable to SSD drive.

Dr4g0n36
Level 10
Now had to test wich startup mode is the faster and most stable...do you think that re-enable AHCI will change something?

Tongki
Level 7
Bookmark this so I can read again

Dr4g0n36 wrote:
HI, i've received a brand new G752VT-T7005T a couple of days ago. During this two days i've found some little issues (dvd writer starts load randomly even if empty, usb ports sometimes refresh during copy and doing a new folder wherever i want shows up only after pressing F5) that convince me to do a fresh install (like every "G" received in the last 6 years);

Assuming that i'm running Windows on a Samsung m.2 SSD 128gb installed onto IRST controller LOCKED into RAID mode, thats what i've found:


    Doing a fresh bootable media of Windows 10 update 1155 (UEFI mode) using a USB 3.0 drive (fully working) don't show up in boot selection, using a 2.0 it works.


    To recognize the m.2 drive, you have to load onto your usb drive IRST drivers, used in the section of disks research; IRST provided from ASUS website crash (blue screen IRQL), but with THIS the setup will recognize SSD and will work fine.

My questions:

    there's a way to modify m.2 mode that's actually locked (grey selection) in RAID mode (i have to load RAID driver to install, no way to set in AHCI)?


    if i buy a new Samsung to make a RAID 0, how i can enter into a RAID section to configure it?


    searching on the net, all SSD same of mine that are on sell are named "AHCI", there's something wrong if i buy it to make my RAID?

Thanks for replies.

ACTUALLY WITH 205 BIOS THERE'S NO WAY TO SET IN RAID MODE 2 SSD EVEN IF MACHINE IS ONLY IN RAID BOOT MODE (UNIQUE SELECTION POSSIBLE IN BIOS SETUP). RAID PROTOCOL IS ENABLED ONLY FOR THE IRST COMMUNICATION PORT (SSD IS NATIVE RAID/AHCI SO IS NOT A SATA DRIVE).

EDIT: MINI GUIDE FOR A FULL WORKING MACHINE WITH CLEAN INSTALL
Here's a mini guide step by step to have a fully working G752 with a clean install:

  • Download from Microsoft website using this tool last ISO of Windows 10 Home x64
  • Burn onto a USB 2.0 (3.0 actually doesn't be recognized from 205 BIOS) drive using rufus (select first the downloaded ISO an then select GPT partitioning)
  • Download from here lastest Intel RAID driver and simply insert unzipped folder onto USB drive
  • OPTIONAL: remove secondary HDD to avoid issue/unwanted loss of data, you can reload it when you will reach desktop for the first time, after first user shutdown
  • Turn on PC pressing ESC until you see boot list, select your USB drive and go on
  • Windows setup will automatically find your Windows 10 serial from UEFI bios so you will not be prompted for wich Windows version you want to install
  • Arrived in disk selection setup you will see no disk attached. Select "load driver" and use the driver downloaded from previous step, wait for a while and you will se Samsung m.2 drive
  • delete all partitions, hit next and setup will automatically recereate UEFI structure (because SSD already is GPT formatted)
  • Proceed for the rest of installation like normal one (inserting account, wifi, etc.)

Once reached Desktop for first time, my hint is to turn notebook onto airplane mode (FN+F2 doesn't work anymore, you have to install first the app) using the button placed in wifi panel.
Proceed (if you haven't do this step before format) with the download and installation of all package (better if downloaded from a parallel PC so you don't enable Windows to download updates while downloading drivers) from ASUS website except for this three one:

  • Nvidia GPU drivers here
  • ASUS Spendid Utility here
  • Realtek audio driver: use ASUS driver
  • ASUS Sonic Suite 2 here

So if you do anything correct you will have to download this list from ASUS support page:
54092
Reboot when prompted and at the end re-enable wifi.

SSD OPTIMIZATION:
Heres a couple of trick to optimize SSD life and speed:

  • launch CMD with admin privileges and type "powercfg /h off"
  • under System --> Advanced turn off Paging file by selecting it and disabling automatic mode (reboot)
  • search for "defrag" select manage and disable it
  • in Device manager select SSD properties and thick the selection "disable Buffer unload" (we have battery that can supply power shortage)


LAST HINT:
If you have the "Num Lock" Windows 10 issue (no Num Lock at startup) see here:

  • Launch Regedit
  • Navigate to: HKEY_USERS --> .DEFAULT -->Control Panel --> Keyboard
  • Find "InitialKeyboardIndicators" key
  • Add "+2" at the value (if you have 2147483648 type 2147483650)
  • Reboot


SSD PERFORMANCE:
For people that found pathetic write speed recognized with SSD's program benchmark, it's not a driver issue or incompatibilty, if you search for the spec of MZVLV128 Samsung m.2 drive you will find that this drive can read up to 1500 MB/s and write only 150 MB/s . So the only problem found is that ASUS decided to install "crappy" entry level SSD.
54095

Dr4g0n36
Level 10
i'm going to update first post with new found (bios 213). or it's better to paste all into a new thread?

saiyadjin
Level 7
convert your drive to GPT and install UEFI windows. boot time - 2 sec 🙂

Dr4g0n36
Level 10
ASUS ROG G752 update drivers:

  • Windows BIOS flash utilitiy - HERE
  • ASUS Splendid Video Enhancement Technology - HERE
  • ASUS Thunderbolt firmware Update NVM_v13_TI_v1.3 - HERE
  • Gaming Mouse Driver - HERE
  • ATKACPI driver and hotkey-related utilities - HERE

Dr4g0n36 wrote:
ASUS ROG G752 update drivers:

  • ASUS Splendid Video Enhancement Technology - HERE


This ASUS Splendid link still missing G752 serie specific color profiles.
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