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G751 Not having 120Hz?

Deluxius
Level 7
Is it correct that the G751 does not have 120Hz screen? It is a shame if the Asus people dont fix this. It has been going on for quite some time now. All the models before in this serie do not have 120Hz screens.

It is basically like having a racecar with a lawn mower engine. I really do not understand why the Asus people do not get a better 120Hz screen. It is not like the cost of a120Hz screen is that much more.

I guess Asus dont think gamers care about things like screen tearing and jearky motion.

I think lots of people are not going to buy this pc because of this considerable issue.
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Deluxius
Level 7
It seems to me that alot of people here are talking about external screens. That for me confirms the whole point. And yes I see that the IPS screens give good colours and so on. But the reality is that for gaming, that is not super important. Alot of screens you can also calibrate, getting pretty decent results.

I really want to see the person saying that is it practical to bring their PG27 around in the backpack together with the laptop.

And if you don't have the 8 bit upgrade you were talking about, maby it is time to look into it. I belive alot of people are choosing other pc's because of this. when it comes to my friends, I have 3 friends that don't want this pc because of this.

Also MarshallR@ASUS it would be nice if you can find quotes from proffesional gamers, saying that they prefer 60Hz screens. I find it strange that they ofthen are promoting 120/144Hz screens if the 60Hz IPS is so much better. And yes Im talking here about gaming.

By the way I think the Asus have an awsome product here. It is only bummer is the screen that office people, probably are happy with.

irablumberg
Level 7
I'm really happy with the IPS screen in my G751jy. In fact the screen was the deciding factor for me choosing the 751 over the new MSI.

CoryBee
Level 7
I think this is a ridiculous conversation. I have been seriously disappointed by my G750JZs inability to perform above 6ohz.

The whole reason I found this forum, that I am even considering buying a new G751JY is because I was trying to find a way to disable optimus in my laptop so I may increase the refresh rate manually through Nvidia's control panel.

I was confused when I saw that these new G751s didn't have 120hz screens and 3D enabled. There were a few models of G750s that had it and I would have gone with one of those if it weren't for this one I have being much more powerful in terms of specs.

The whole notion that we are supposed to be gaming on an external screen seems like a huge cop out for the device we paid for. What good is an IPS screen if you assume we plan on not using it for gaming at all?

I move around a lot, which is the only reason that I decided on selling my custom built desktop to purchase something that I can put in my briefcase (Mezzi aluminum laptop case) and anywhere I go plug the baby in and start gaming at the airport, at my new house, at a friends, etc.

If I wanted to game on an external screen I would have built a far more powerful desktop computer for a far better price.

Maybe a decent amount of people that you have spoken with plug their laptops into an external monitor but I don't believe for a second that 80% of ROG Laptop gamers do. It just doesn't make sense.

As soon as I receive the new G751JY I will be increasing the refresh rate manually. Playing BF4 on 60hz+60fps is like night and day when everything is moving fast compared to 120hz+120fps.
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Memory: 32 GB DDR3
Graphics: GeForce GTX 880m 4GB GDDR5 RAM
Storage: 512GB SSD (256GB SSD x 2 RAID) + 1TB 7200RPM Hard Drive
Screen: 17.3" Full HD Glossy Screen
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Richdog
Level 7
Seroiusly, 120hz is not an issue for the vast majority of gamers who play with AA enabled and frame rated rarely go abover 80fps.

i would MUCH rather have a 60hz IPS screen than a 120hz TN panel... it is so much easier on the eyes and so much more suited to general use at the times you aren't gaming (browsing, photos, movies etc).

TN panels suck vs IPS, hence why IPS is so highly sought after.

Richdog wrote:
Seroiusly, 120hz is not an issue for the vast majority of gamers who play with AA enabled and frame rated rarely go abover 80fps.

i would MUCH rather have a 60hz IPS screen than a 120hz TN panel... it is so much easier on the eyes and so much more suited to general use at the times you aren't gaming (browsing, photos, movies etc).

TN panels suck vs IPS, hence why IPS is so highly sought after.


+1!

CoryBee
Level 7
60hz equates to 60fps (not exactly but close)

My rig is able to push 130fps sometimes on Battlefield 4 and yet my screen whimps out on producing the smoothness that comes with such a high frame rate.

Especially in FPS games is this important. I can tell a huge difference when I use my 120hz LCD screen back in the states. When I turn my character there is no blurring of the surroundings at 120fps and I can spot more things while on the move. In the same instances during gameplay with the native 60hz/fps screen I currently have on my G750JZ those areas that are crystal clear while moving are now blurred, just like in the movie world, you are missing frames that your eyes can utilize.

It is a fact that we can utilize insane amount of FPS, we could even use 1k+ FPS and we would piss at the though of using anything less after using such a setting. Even using something like 700 FPS would look sluggish after using 1k.

I am almost positive that people who say 120hz/fps isn't important have never utilized it before in such a way (gaming).

This gentleman puts it pretty well, I recommend everyone watch it and similar videos;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCWZ_kWTB9w

It comes down to, the more FPS the better, PERIOD. There is no discussion about it. The ability to perceive more information in a shorter time is crucial and very easy to perceive. It will come to a point in the future where this is standard. That 200fps is normal for gaming, I am sure of this. We get more powerful this and that for a reason. Why linger behind, you essentially bottleneck the system by only having 60fps. You just aren't getting the most of your system, of the gaming experience.
ASUS ROG G750JZ-XS72
CPU: 2.4 GHz Core i7-4700HQ
Memory: 32 GB DDR3
Graphics: GeForce GTX 880m 4GB GDDR5 RAM
Storage: 512GB SSD (256GB SSD x 2 RAID) + 1TB 7200RPM Hard Drive
Screen: 17.3" Full HD Glossy Screen
Sound: Custom Internal 7.1 Surround Sound Astro a50 Transmitter
Hobby: Arcade Builder

CoryBee wrote:
60hz equates to 60fps (not exactly but close)

My rig is able to push 130fps sometimes on Battlefield 4 and yet my screen whimps out on producing the smoothness that comes with such a high frame rate.

Especially in FPS games is this important. I can tell a huge difference when I use my 120hz LCD screen back in the states. When I turn my character there is no blurring of the surroundings at 120fps and I can spot more things while on the move. In the same instances during gameplay with the native 60hz/fps screen I currently have on my G750JZ those areas that are crystal clear while moving are now blurred, just like in the movie world, you are missing frames that your eyes can utilize.

It is a fact that we can utilize insane amount of FPS, we could even use 1k+ FPS and we would piss at the though of using anything less after using such a setting. Even using something like 700 FPS would look sluggish after using 1k.

I am almost positive that people who say 120hz/fps isn't important have never utilized it before in such a way (gaming).

This gentleman puts it pretty well, I recommend everyone watch it and similar videos;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCWZ_kWTB9w

It comes down to, the more FPS the better, PERIOD. There is no discussion about it. The ability to perceive more information in a shorter time is crucial and very easy to perceive. It will come to a point in the future where this is standard. That 200fps is normal for gaming, I am sure of this. We get more powerful this and that for a reason. Why linger behind, you essentially bottleneck the system by only having 60fps. You just aren't getting the most of your system, of the gaming experience.


Ive seen it, and again, I MUCH prefer having an IPS for the colours, viewing angles, and all the times that I am NOT gaming. I also use my laptop for productivity, and theres an area where a TN panel simply cannot compete.

Besides, we all play different types of games... I do not play fast-twitch multiplayer FPS, I play single player story-driven games, fantasy role playing games, and RTS. IPS suits this perfectly... my games look and play awesomely and feel completely smooth.

You are in the minority of people who care about having a 120hz crummy TN panel vs having a glorious IPS.

Richdog wrote:
Ive seen it, and again, I MUCH prefer having an IPS for the colours, viewing angles, and all the times that I am NOT gaming. I also use my laptop for productivity, and theres an area where a TN panel simply cannot compete.

Besides, we all play different types of games... I do not play fast-twitch multiplayer FPS, I play single player story-driven games, fantasy role playing games, and RTS. IPS suits this perfectly... my games look and play awesomely and feel completely smooth.

You are in the minority of people who care about having a 120hz crummy TN panel vs having a glorious IPS.


+1!

Richdog wrote:
Ive seen it, and again, I MUCH prefer having an IPS for the colours, viewing angles, and all the times that I am NOT gaming. I also use my laptop for productivity, and theres an area where a TN panel simply cannot compete.

Besides, we all play different types of games... I do not play fast-twitch multiplayer FPS, I play single player story-driven games, fantasy role playing games, and RTS. IPS suits this perfectly... my games look and play awesomely and feel completely smooth.

You are in the minority of people who care about having a 120hz crummy TN panel vs having a glorious IPS.


Solid point actually.

I did a bit more research and found that IPS monitors that do 120hz doesn't really exist on laptops yet. Not sure about desktop ones.

Didn't realize we were sacrificing IPS to have higher Hz rates. I see now why these have 60hz screens.

It is unfortunate though that we don't have a choice to upgrade the screen then to suit a multitude of gamers. I would gladly change to a screen that was able to give me a higher frame rate.

Cheers
ASUS ROG G750JZ-XS72
CPU: 2.4 GHz Core i7-4700HQ
Memory: 32 GB DDR3
Graphics: GeForce GTX 880m 4GB GDDR5 RAM
Storage: 512GB SSD (256GB SSD x 2 RAID) + 1TB 7200RPM Hard Drive
Screen: 17.3" Full HD Glossy Screen
Sound: Custom Internal 7.1 Surround Sound Astro a50 Transmitter
Hobby: Arcade Builder

X-ROG
Level 15
Optimus doesn't support GSync, so since our our GTX800-series notebooks have Optimus, it won't be supported.

We only plan to have IPS displays on premium products now as this is a high demand from media and customers. Unless a display manuf. releases IPS @ 120Hz in 15 or 17", I doubt we'll be including sorry.

Most TN's suck, although the latest 8-bit TNs in the PB287 and PG278 have been very highly regarded in reviews. The only thing they still lack is the extreme viewing angles, but rarely do people sit at anything other than straight-on. The older 15/17" 120Hz TN's are not 8-bit however, so there is a large difference.