WinterMisha wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFKVIs8EUjU&feature=youtu.be
Thanks for the awesome video WinterMisha, it was very well done for a phone camera video 🙂
When you first started, my first thought was, hey that Left laptop doesn't have any light bleed! The one on the Right had a little. Then you got close and viewed from the side on the Left laptop, and I could then see some light bleed. It seems the JX you have has less bleed than the JM straight on!
I like dark screens too, and the way I get around it is to use the NASA Night Launch Theme for Firefox:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=547498
I use a normal colorful background, dark green forest usually. And, I set dark themes for everything else I use too. I hate the bright screen in a dark room. Using a colorful background kills the edge lit bleed for me, I don't notice it at all. And, the dark themes, without going with a completely black desktop works best overall for me.
The speed/performance of the laptops, and heat, might be due to system settings, and the environment.
Do you have both laptops set to a Power Plan that sets the CPU utilization to Low/High of 0%/100%, or are those settings at least identical? If the JM is set to High Performance plan and JX is set to Balanced that would give the JM the performance edge, and generate more heat. Both laptops need to have the same CPU utilization curve to match for testing.
It looks like both laptops are up against a wall, both close enough to reflect back the vented heat from the back of each laptop. After a while they can generate a hot area from which the laptops are drawing in their waste heat, keeping the temperature up. Also the JX has it's CPU vent port angled to the wall away from the laptop, and the JM has the CPU vent closer to the wall and reflecting back into the laptop.
I thought the 860m was going to do worse than the 770m, so if you can check the Power plan CPU settings and get them to match if they aren't, and please let us know how they compare then - if not matching now.
I ran BF4 BETA on the JX, and got 50-80fps frame rates, here are my BF4 settings from that time.
Thanks again for the cool Video 🙂
hmscott wrote:
Thanks for the awesome video WinterMisha, it was very well done for a phone camera video 🙂
When you first started, my first thought was, hey that Left laptop doesn't have any light bleed! The one on the Right had a little. Then you got close and viewed from the side on the Left laptop, and I could then see some light bleed. It seems the JX you have has less bleed than the JM straight on!
I like dark screens too, and the way I get around it is to use the NASA Night Launch Theme for Firefox:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=547498
I use a normal colorful background, dark green forest usually. And, I set dark themes for everything else I use too. I hate the bright screen in a dark room. Using a colorful background kills the edge lit bleed for me, I don't notice it at all. And, the dark themes, without going with a completely black desktop works best overall for me.
The speed/performance of the laptops, and heat, might be due to system settings, and the environment.
Do you have both laptops set to a Power Plan that sets the CPU utilization to Low/High of 0%/100%, or are those settings at least identical? If the JM is set to High Performance plan and JX is set to Balanced that would give the JM the performance edge, and generate more heat. Both laptops need to have the same CPU utilization curve to match for testing.
It looks like both laptops are up against a wall, both close enough to reflect back the vented heat from the back of each laptop. After a while they can generate a hot area from which the laptops are drawing in their waste heat, keeping the temperature up. Also the JX has it's CPU vent port angled to the wall away from the laptop, and the JM has the CPU vent closer to the wall and reflecting back into the laptop.
I thought the 860m was going to do worse than the 770m, so if you can check the Power plan CPU settings and get them to match if they aren't, and please let us know how they compare then - if not matching now.
I ran BF4 BETA on the JX, and got 50-80fps frame rates, here are my BF4 settings from that time.
Thanks again for the cool Video 🙂
Hello
I Play on a kitchen table yesterday where is no wall and its the same thing...Maybe will make video about it to show u...
Both Laptops running on 100% Power4Gear High Performance...
With out ANTIALIASING DEFFERRED and ANTIALIASING POST on MEDIUM i have exactly the same FPS
Thank you
WinterMisha wrote:
Its not 100% all the time... Min is 5% on any plan and max is 100% i don't like to use any extra programs to boost my laptop.
That review were on Stock settings and programs.
Laptop overheating no matter what i do... Delete powergear plan or keep on Balanced with min 0 max 100.
Anyways laptop reach 85-86c everytime i play a game for like 1-3 min... no matter on what settings or power plan i chose..
Is there any program to check if everything working properly?
thanks
Games are hard to measure if they are performing correctly, lots of variation. Best to use a benchmark while running a monitoring tool to keep an eye on the temps, and utilization.
There is nothing wrong with using Asus GPU Tweak tool for Graphics cards, the other variation Asus GPU Tweak for Laptops is included/installed on the new G750JS/JM/JZ, so Asus thinks it is ok 🙂
Intel XTU lets systems with adequate cooling, like our G750's with awesome cooling systems, utilize all the performance Intel shipped - but couldn't enable - with the Haswell CPU because most stock cooling isn't up to the task. XTU enables the extra Multiplier shipped with the CPU. It is a nice boost, but not truly an Overclock, it is a Multiplier Restore 🙂
They are both safe, and give you a nice boost in performance.
Even better is the under-volting you can do with XTU, which reduces the voltage fed to the CPU, as it turns out the voltage curve applied to the CPU is a bit too generous for most samples of the CPU. I have seen variation of -125mV to -20mV work, the larger the drop the larger the temperature reduction. It is worth it to tune it.
Those temps for the JX are fine, as it would be for the JW. I am unfamilar with what is typical for the new series, but it doesn't sound bad.
The CPU is safe to run in the mid 90c range, the CPU will heat throttle as it approaches 100C, so the CPU will be safe.
The JH runs a bit cooler, in the mid 70c range, but that is because the cooling system is larger, otherwise it would be the same as the JX/JW - the CPU heat generation is the same across all the G750's
If you want to run a benchmark with monitoring, XTU does that, along side HWinfo64 for more details, here is a sample comparison between stock settings, and OC + -60mV under volt.
hmscott wrote:
Games are hard to measure if they are performing correctly, lots of variation. Best to use a benchmark while running a monitoring tool to keep an eye on the temps, and utilization.
There is nothing wrong with using Asus GPU Tweak tool for Graphics cards, the other variation Asus GPU Tweak for Laptops is included/installed on the new G750JS/JM/JZ, so Asus thinks it is ok 🙂
Intel XTU lets systems with adequate cooling, like our G750's with awesome cooling systems, utilize all the performance Intel shipped - but couldn't enable - with the Haswell CPU because most stock cooling isn't up to the task. XTU enables the extra Multiplier shipped with the CPU. It is a nice boost, but not truly an Overclock, it is a Multiplier Restore 🙂
They are both safe, and give you a nice boost in performance.
Even better is the under-volting you can do with XTU, which reduces the voltage fed to the CPU, as it turns out the voltage curve applied to the CPU is a bit too generous for most samples of the CPU. I have seen variation of -125mV to -20mV work, the larger the drop the larger the temperature reduction. It is worth it to tune it.
Those temps for the JX are fine, as it would be for the JW. I am unfamilar with what is typical for the new series, but it doesn't sound bad.
The CPU is safe to run in the mid 90c range, the CPU will heat throttle as it approaches 100C, so the CPU will be safe.
The JH runs a bit cooler, in the mid 70c range, but that is because the cooling system is larger, otherwise it would be the same as the JX/JW - the CPU heat generation is the same across all the G750's
If you want to run a benchmark with monitoring, XTU does that, along side HWinfo64 for more details, here is a sample comparison between stock settings, and OC + -60mV under volt.
Hello.
As i said before i don't like to use any extra programs..I like everything on Stock and from what i can see as owner of both laptops that older version of 750 is cooler then newer one ....
Anyways i tried that intel ETU and after - 120 voltage my laptop shut down after 3-5 min.. - 20 Does not change anything so i uninstall it..
JX no matter what i play stay cool and max temps are 77C when JM reaches 87C...
Try to understand that i had 2x JW,3x JX and 1x JM so i go trough 6 750s and every time there is some problem with it...
All i want is just to unbox my Laptop and enjoy it and not spend 3 month on Forums and go trough 6 laptops and still have problems...
I would like to see some screens of JM from other owners please ..
And remember video that i make were STOCK VS STOCK no extra programs....
Thank you
