G702ZC - AMD-V virtualization possible? - solved with 303 bios?

[darklajid]

Hi.

I got the above laptop yesterday. One of the things I plan(ned?) to do with it was running virtualization software.
Unfortunately
1) it comes with AMD-V disabled
2) I cannot find a setting in the EFI to enable it so far

Am I out of luck? Is that intentionally crippled? Or am I just missing something here?
Thanks!

[darklajid]

Wasn't able to find any information either online or here, so I reached out to the ASUS support and will update this thread when I get a reply.
Would be a shame if I have 8/16 cores .. and couldn't use virtualization as I intended to.

[Korth]

Have you tried enabling SVM in BIOS?

[darklajid]

I haven't found an option for that (that said: This mouse based BIOS/EFI thing is certainly something I could get lost in).

If you have the same thing and actually see that option, then I'd be so glad if you could lend me a hand here.

[Korth]

I don't have this laptop, sorry.

You could look through BIOS screenshots/videos of other ASUS B350 motherboards. Or methodically search your own, top to bottom. It might be called "SMT" (Simultaneous Multi-Threading) or "SVM" (Secure Virtual Machine). Analogous to Intel HyperThreading. I'd expect it to be enabled by default with an 8C/16T processor part, but you never know.

Maybe someone else here can offer better advice specific to your model, lol, though it might take a while.

[darklajid]

Thanks, the idea with the screenshots wasn't bad. Unfortunately all the B350 screenshots are looking _completely_ different from what I have here.
So while that is the chipset for this laptop, it doesn't seem to be the same setup as far as I can tell.

I searched the screens already - they're not exactly filled with (editable) content. In fact, I'd say you can do very little. EZ (?) mode is basically nothing at all, Advanced (?) mode quite limited too.

So - I was hoping for someone chiming in and offering a way to unlock this thing into a usable state.

Yep - I too would expect this to be enabled by default. Unfortunately it is not, for all I can tell 😕 If that's an oversight that will be corrected: Fine. If that's a design decision I'd be quite grumpy...

[Korth]

Are you certain you don't have multithreading enabled? How many Cores/Threads are reported by GPU-Z?

[darklajid]

Wait. We're talking different things. I have 8 cores/16 threads enabled.
That's not what this is about.

This is about a feature that virtualization software (in this case: Hyper-V. Random other example to be more in-line with gaming laptop usage: Bluestack) requires. Either to work at all (Hyper-V) or to work somewhat decently/fast (Bluestack).

Intel calls this VT-X or something. AMD calls this AMD-V or SVM. It's not "Hyperthreading" that I care about (that is not even an option, but I have it enabled).

See https://support.bluestacks.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003174386-How-can-I-enable-virtualization-VT-on-... for a random example of what I expect to have/be able to activate. Another example would be https://superuser.com/questions/1248269/can-hyper-v-run-on-amd-ryzen-processors (question is similar to mine, this is what I want to do. Accepted answer talks about the requirements and that - while basically all CPUs support that - you probably need to enable that first. I cannot enable it. Which is the reason for me being annoyed with this laptop at the moment)

[darklajid]

See another example of my issue, this time as an image attachment.

[Korth]

Hmm, seems like a "problem" specific to Bluestacks.

The AMD-V Detection Utility might help. ** Edit: some users have reported malware warnings from this download, scan online and offline before installing **
https://support.bluestacks.com/hc/en-us/articles/210806683-How-can-I-enable-virtualization-VT-on-my-...

Or you can try other Android emulators. Sorry, I don't know anything about them - keep meaning to play/learn some Android dev but never seem to actually get around to it, lol.