Final battle ! ASUS vs MSI

[JackMack]

(note) this is my last topic for now so if you can help somehow, go ahead write some opinions

Sometime next month I will probably get a brand new laptop; either the ASUS GT751JT or the MSI GT72-G(sync)

What I really want to know is why one over the other ?

I know that :

- ASUS has better and silent cooling while MSI has turbo boost and it also benefits from a cooling pad
- MSI has better audio while ASUS being decent,it has some sound issues out of the box.
- MSI is much more upgradable while ASUS looks and feels sturdier
- ASUS keyboard will stay red forever while MSI can put on a light show
- ASUS has the i7-4710HQ vs the MSI i7-5700HQ
- MSI comes with G-sync, both have the gtx 970M and cost 1500$

3 things I care the most in a laptop (besides software that works), everything else being secondary :

*durability (hopefully something that would last me at least 3 years)

*cooling (staying cool while under stress)

*customer support (it's more of a dream, I doubt it exists, both MSI & ASUS being pretty bad...)

[Sanctrum]

falkenjeff wrote:
1) No, you can't disable it in the BIOS.

2) No, I can't return it. I was mostly playing League of Legends/Starcraft 2 so I didn't notice this was a huge issue with absolutely no workaround until now - 8 months later, when I decided to play an old game, PSOBB. Newer games auto-select the correct video card just fine.

3) I'm over-reacting? It's a $1500 gaming laptop, and it can't even play an old ****ty game at 1080p (or in windowed mode at all) without dropping FPS. I'm forced to play it in 720p, because it's using the ****ty intel card. And I'm going to be stuck with it for at least another 2 years.



1) When I did my initial research no one was having any problems with Optimus on the JM. All the posts (which I read on this forum) were simply "I love my JM." As someone not familiar with gaming laptops at all, Optimus seemed like a great feature - if it worked. Since it was the only machine that was reasonably priced at the time (and it was on sale), I went for it.

2) I have not found a single workaround that works with the JM. Most of the threads complaining about optimus on other machines either: a) Go unanswered/have no solution (like my thread on THIS forum), or b) Have a model-specific workaround (eg: a BIOS that actually lets you disable the intel card). You honestly think I haven't spent HOURS googling this before coming here? If it's so easy to fix, then tell me how to do it!

Ok, so you think that it is a Nvidia driver issue? Right? So why are you ranting over ASUS? Other Optimus enabled laptops (MSI, Clevo, Dell, name it) don't have the same issue with the same old games, or they do? If they have the SAME problem- its Nvidia driver problem. Rant over Nvidia.
If they do not have the optimus issues... So you are saying ALL G751JM with your setup have the same Optimus issues or only yours have?
If all ALL G751JM with your setup have the same issue than actually you can't know if it is Nvidia or Asus to blame... maybe even both are to blame. If only your piece has the problem... so it is Asus to blame. SEND IT FOR REPAIR! Don't you have the 12 or 24 months warranty?

[Corporal]

Sanctrum wrote:
Other Optimus enabled laptops (MSI, Clevo, Dell, name it) don't have the same issue with the same old games, or they do? If they have the SAME problem- its Nvidia driver problem. Rant over Nvidia.

For Optimus to work, the game developers must enable optimus support. Rant over Gamedevs

"a BIOS that actually lets you disable the intel card" <- I don't see how that can work, considering that the intel card is connected to the display at all times, NVidia is only performing calculations and sending the result to the Intel video buffer. If you could turn off Intel card, you would get a black screen.

http://notebookspec.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/NVDA_Optimus_Overview.jpg

[JackMack]

I might just have to wait for the G752 http://www.digitaltrends.com/?p=825977 they might come out with G sync and everything at 1500$...

[Edweird]

There's no point in getting a G751 when the G752 comes out if it doesn't have any fatal flaws. So far it looks really good on paper.

[JackMack]

Edweird wrote:
There's no point in getting a G751 when the G752 comes out if it doesn't have any fatal flaws. So far it looks really good on paper.

I guess I could wait till December and who knows maybe they improved it quite a bit

[dapogz717]

if you always comparing the lastyear model from this year model.. you end up waiting.. and waiting.. and waiting... and you end up not having a laptop at all.. 😄

[BigDRim]

dapogz717 is true, now the high tech world renews its products so often that there will be we always something newer to envy.
But the G751 released last October so if you can wait, the G752 should be a better choice.

[Edweird]

Well, yeah, that's the whole point. If a new model is in the imminent future, you go for that. If it isn't, you go for what's available now. In the computer world, no matter what you buy, you're always stuffed. At least with PC components anyways.

Some features, like G-SYNC, that will have long-term effects on the computer world are worth waiting for.

[aeolisio]

The NVME is nice but if your trying to save money wait until the g752 hits and watch the g751 prices drop again. It could be the difference between a 980m and a 965m in your budget which is much more of a difference than the NVME ddr4 and cpu upgrade.

[JackMack]

aeolisio wrote:
The NVME is nice but if your trying to save money wait until the g752 hits and watch the g751 prices drop again. It could be the difference between a 980m and a 965m in your budget which is much more of a difference than the NVME ddr4 and cpu upgrade.

That is a great idea, very tempted to wait and see what happens, hopefully not forever...