Does ASUS plan to release laptops with intel desktop CPUs and desktop Nvidia GPUs?

[monroe]

hi,
does ASUS have some plans to release some laptops with intel desktop CPUs and maybe desktop Nvidia GPUs?

[monroe]

Korth wrote:
ASUS already offers lots of laptops with Intel CPUs and NVIDIA GPUs lol.

No laptops are built with desktop CPUs. Not by ASUS, not by anyone else.

Laptop motherboards aren't as standardized as desktop motherboards, they're somewhat consistent in terms of form-factor but the manufacturers have a lot of flexibility. They basically design the motherboard and daughterboards and other PCBs along with the chassis everything fits inside, they can add/remove ports and slots and features just like they do across different desktop motherboard models.

Intel mobile CPUs are sometimes soldered (permanently) in place on board, and sometimes use some variety of "socket". But either way they are not physically or electrically compatible with Intel desktop CPUs. They might have similar Intel model numbers and specs to their desktop counterparts but they're aren't at all interchangeable. They also tend to selected/binned with consideration towards power efficiencies.

Laptop GPUs are often MXM cards. They can be swapped or upgraded. But there are numerous little proprietary differences and issues between them and the motherboards they plug into. It's often easier to just leave them in place and treat them as "permanent" hardware.

hi, thanks for the reply. it is very good reply ;). but i just would like to know one more thing. this customization of desktop CPUs and GPus for the laptops, does it has some performance impacts?

[Clintlgm]

Yes

[Korth]

But you're not interested in hauling around a 2-foot-wide, 3-inch thick, 17-pound laptop if it can give you desktop performance/compatibility ... lol?

[monroe]

Korth wrote:
But you're not interested in hauling around a 2-foot-wide, 3-inch thick, 17-pound laptop if it can give you desktop performance/compatibility ... lol?

well, there are already such laptops and people are buying it. i am also strong enough to haul such a laptop in a backpack

[ST9752]

It's ALL about energy!

A cpu/gpu is going to dissipate a certain amount of energy (heat) while running under a given load. This is known as TDP or Total Dissipated Power. Big gaming rigs are big because they need to dissipate LOTS of heat, far more than a laptop could reasonable dissipate without fans that constantly sounded like a hurricane.

The TDP of desktop processors is often double or more compared to mobile variants of the same chip. Yes they are a fair bit more powerful than their mobile brethren because of this. The portability requirement of a laptop means that they don't have the internal space for huge heatsinks and huge, high volume fans to remove all that heat. The buying public would not accept that.

When companies go the other direction even identical chips don't perform as well. Take the Macbooks for instance. They are designed to be a slim fashion statement and for that reason they do not have the necessary breathing room to keep their CPU's from having to thermally throttle. The same CPU will perform better in one of these gaming laptops because they are capable of removing the heat far better than a MacBook. I think Apple has begun to notice the are losing power users because of this form over function approach.

I would not expect to see any reasonable laptop company produce a machine with desktop chips in it. There's simply no room for the chips to breath. I wouldn't expect some weird niche laptop that did this to last very long either.

I'm an electronics engineer, just not from ASUS. 🙂

[monroe]

ST9752 wrote:
It's ALL about energy!

A cpu/gpu is going to dissipate a certain amount of energy (heat) while running under a given load. This is known as TDP or Total Dissipated Power. Big gaming rigs are big because they need to dissipate LOTS of heat, far more than a laptop could reasonable dissipate without fans that constantly sounded like a hurricane.

The TDP of desktop processors is often double or more compared to mobile variants of the same chip. Yes they are a fair bit more powerful than their mobile brethren because of this. The portability requirement of a laptop means that they don't have the internal space for huge heatsinks and huge, high volume fans to remove all that heat. The buying public would not accept that.

When companies go the other direction even identical chips don't perform as well. Take the Macbooks for instance. They are designed to be a slim fashion statement and for that reason they do not have the necessary breathing room to keep their CPU's from having to thermally throttle. The same CPU will perform better in one of these gaming laptops because they are capable of removing the heat far better than a MacBook. I think Apple has begun to notice the are losing power users because of this form over function approach.

I would not expect to see any reasonable laptop company produce a machine with desktop chips in it. There's simply no room for the chips to breath. I wouldn't expect some weird niche laptop that did this to last very long either.

I'm an electronics engineer, just not from ASUS. 🙂

thanks for answering. i like ur answer too. smb has also mentioned that the issue is around TDP.
beside that i have also checked some reviews comparing clevo laptops (having desktop hardware) with rog laptops and i would like to say that asus rog laptops are a strong opponent given that was having almost the same or sometimes even better performance.