Asus ROG G752VY Thunderbolt 3 firmware-upgrade (2017-5-12)!

[Gustave]

For those interested:

There is an update at the G752VY support site regarding the Thunderbolt 3 adapter. It prepares the G752VY for the XG Station 2.

Cheerio!

[CladMaster]

The Thunderbolt 3 Tech Brief (visit the link below) gives more details on how the technology works.
https://thunderbolttechnology.net/sites/default/files/Thunderbolt3_TechBrief_FINAL.pdf

Based on what I have read in this brief (PDF), it would suggest that the USB-C / Thunderbolt 3 port on the G752 laptops operates upto 40Gbp/s.

But, and here is the BUT .....

...... this all depends on how ASUS has hardwired the USB-C port and the controller(s) on the main board of these laptops.

If only 2 lanes are used, this would restrict the laptops to 20Gbp/s, which is the same as Thunderbolt 2.
I hope that this is not the case.

I am trying to find a way to test this and to see if the port is in fact 40Gbp/s enabled.

The test factor is limited at the moment, there seems to be a void in the way of Thunderbolt 3 devices that are within ones price range to carry out such tests.

I have one option that's being tested, an update will follow if it's relevant.

[Gustave]

CladMaster wrote:
The Thunderbolt 3 Tech Brief (visit the link below) gives more details on how the technology works.
https://thunderbolttechnology.net/sites/default/files/Thunderbolt3_TechBrief_FINAL.pdf

Based on what I have read in this brief (PDF), it would suggest that the USB-C / Thunderbolt 3 port on the G752 laptops operates upto 40Gbp/s.

But, and here is the BUT .....

...... this all depends on how ASUS has hardwired the USB-C port and the controller(s) on the main board of these laptops.

If only 2 lanes are used, this would restrict the laptops to 20Gbp/s, which is the same as Thunderbolt 2.
I hope that this is not the case.

I am trying to find a way to test this and to see if the port is in fact 40Gbp/s enabled.

The test factor is limited at the moment, there seems to be a void in the way of Thunderbolt 3 devices that are within ones price range to carry out such tests.

I have one option that's being tested, an update will follow if it's relevant.

I think 4 lanes are used so 40Gbp/s should be OK. Providing the cable used is of proper quality.

[ST9752]

I followed all the instructions in this thread to no avail. 😞

Once I start the "Update.exe" in the "Update_V1.0.1.0 G752VL" folder, it runs for a moment. I hear the standard Windows sound that happens when a device dismounts and then I get this error message.

"Update error. Firmware update process is halted. (0x10430004)"

Sometimes just before the message above I see a dialog displayed by the Thunderbolt driver that says...
"Your PC may need updates for the Thunderbolt 3 port to function properly. For more information go to:
https://thunderbolttechnology.net/updates"


I posted more details in a new thread before I discovered this one.

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?95428-G752VL-can-t-update-Thunderbolt-firmware-ERROR-0x104...

As I noted there, I tried the normal 1.0.1.0 firmware a number of times with no success. I have NOT tried the "prototype" firmware version as I would rather have the latest official firmware. Their inclusion of "prototype" firmware is rather bizarre.


ANY help would be appreciated. 🙂

[ST9752]

I saw this in the readme file of an Intel Thunderbolt Firmware update Tool.

"Connect a Thunderbolt device to the Intel NUC. The firmware update tool will not run without a
Thunderbolt device connected. "

Is this same requirement necessary for the ASUS TB firmware updates?

[CladMaster]

ST9752 wrote:
I saw this in the readme file of an Intel Thunderbolt Firmware update Tool.

"Connect a Thunderbolt device to the Intel NUC. The firmware update tool will not run without a
Thunderbolt device connected. "

Is this same requirement necessary for the ASUS TB firmware updates?

No, the firmware flash is different with the ASUS laptops.

[BoutTime]

The Global webpage for the G752VT says 40Gbit/s

https://www.asus.com/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-G752VT/

The UK webpages for the G752VT say 20Gbit/s

https://www.asus.com/uk/Laptops/ROG-G752VT/
https://www.asus.com/uk/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-G752VT/

[CladMaster]

To flash the prototype firmware, the procedure would be the same.

The prototype firmware is an older update from what I can tell, the version number is lower (Prototype V1.0.0.10 g752vl vs Update_V1.0.1.0 G752VL), and I am not sure why it was added to the zip file.

[Slick8791]

Gustave wrote:
For those interested:

There is an update at the G752VY support site regarding the Thunderbolt 3 adapter. It prepares the G752VY for the XG Station 2.

Cheerio!

Is there any official information from ASUS on IF the XG Station 2 is going to be available in North America?

According to this article, there are no plans to sell it in the US: http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/asus-xg-station-2-graphics-amp

[NeoBeum]

I was on the Intel forums asking if I could make a USB 3.1 DRIVER for a TB1... Not possible 😞

[CladMaster]

Post 4 updated today.