ASUS G750JY... a slap in the face to G751 owners?

[Richdog]

I mean seriously, ASUS are bringing out a new version of an old and classic design with a 980M, that I am sure they are aware people prefer (otherwise logially why release an old design?) due to the sleek back design and white keyboard keys that are easier to see and read? Can they have any more contempt for their customers, ie: G51 owners? Absolutely bizarre. :confused:

Info here http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/G750JY/

So yeah, I am now really annoyed as I would have loved to buy a laptop with that design and the G751 specification...

[Darnassus]

Wait, just to get this clear. The G751's do NOT have Optimus but the G750JY does?

Also, the first picture of the cooling that Tindrael posted, was that REALLY the cooling for the G751? Why are the sink blocks so small? Maybe it's the picture angle.. and wow, that's quite the small pad for the 980m..


Edit: What the hell's going on here?






Tindrael, did you post the small ones? Because I have a feeling there's reeeally thick blocks for the 880m model.

[hmscott]

Darnassus wrote:
...the first picture of the cooling that Tindrael posted, was that REALLY the cooling for the G751? Why are the sink blocks so small? Maybe it's the picture angle.. and wow, that's quite the small pad for the 980m..

Darnassus, these photo's from a notebookreview.com forum post of a ASUS G751JY-T7064D internals show the cooling parts contact side, along with a view of the components side of the motherboard.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/761783-asus-g751-coming-maxwell-gtx-980m-...

[Joystick]

hmscott wrote:
Darnassus, these photo's from a notebookreview.com forum post of a G751 internals show the cooling parts contact side, along with a view of the components side of the motherboard.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/761783-asus-g751-coming-maxwell-gtx-980m-...

Off topic 😉 : do you see I was right? It's impossible to switch the SATA II port with the SATA III port, the only solution is a cable.

[hmscott]

Joystick wrote:
Off topic 😉 : do you see I was right? It's impossible to switch the SATA II port with the SATA III port, the only solution is a cable.

Joystick, yes I made a post in that thread with that observation. In your earlier photo's I couldn't quite see the connector base - now that I know it is the motherboard and not a separable piece we are screwed 🙂

But, maybe not completely out of the running. Here are my comments from the other thread:

It looks like there is no way to swap the SATA III / SATA II connectors between the bays, as they are fixed on the monolithic motherboard, so the only other thing I can think of is to find a M.2 PCIE extension cable to route from the M.2 PCIE connector in Bay1 to Bay2 - that way we can use the SATA III port in Bay 1 and use the M.2 PCIE in Bay 2. Simultaneous use of both the SATA III port and M.2 PCIE port should work ok, as they are different paths, but it is good to test it first.

Like your idea to cable the SATA III connector over to the 2nd Bay, except that wouldn't work as there isn't enough room to fit the 2.5" drive, the original SATA II connector, and the extended SATA III cable/connector.

The M.2 PCIE extension cable would work due to the smaller M.2 form factor - there wouldn't be a good mount for it, but that is true if you don't get an M.2 with the system already 🙂

[Darnassus]

Oh what the hell, Scott that's totally different all together than what Tindrael posted.. there's now the gimmick 'Thermal Bridge' that MSI use. I hope this works properly, the GPU is going to get a lot of the CPU's heat now..

[hmscott]

Darnassus wrote:
Oh what the hell, Scott that's totally different all together than what Tindrael posted.. there's now the gimmick 'Thermal Bridge' that MSI use. I hope this works properly, the GPU is going to get a lot of the CPU's heat now..

Darnassus, they are two different sides, top in Tindrael's photo, and bottom view in the other. They aren't the same, but they are very close - the bottom photo is of the JY, I don't know what G751 Tindreal's photo is - likely a JM, I think a JT would be closer to the JY form.

Update: I am comparing the single G751 photo in Tindrael's post - showing the top of the G751(JM?) cooling assembly with no copper pads showing, and the single photo in my post of the bottom of the G751JY cooling assembly showing the copper pads.

That is the comparison I am speaking to. 🙂

Asus has figured out how to route the heat effectively between the 2 cooling stacks, and benefited from the structural integrity of casting it all as 1 integrated piece. Asus has done what MSI tried to do, but done it better.

The results speak for themselves, the G751 CPU and GPU temps are awesome 🙂

Update, found the source for Tindrael's photo:

Gallery: G751 Gaming Laptop
http://rog.asus.com/372512014/g-series-gaming-laptops/gallery-g751-gaming-laptop/

[Darnassus]

hmscott wrote:
Darnassus, they are two different sides, top in Tindrael's photo, and bottom view in the other. They aren't the same, but they are very close - the bottom photo is of the JY, I don't know what G751 Tindreal's photo is - likely a JM, I think a JT would be closer to the JY form.

Asus has figured out how to route the heat effectively between the 2 cooling stacks, and benefited from the structural integrity of casting it all as 1 integrated piece. Asus has done what MSI I tried to do, but done it better.

The results speak for themselves, the G751 CPU and GPU temps are awesome 🙂

I hope so. I must admit.. the difference is they used a 'thermal bridge' on a single fan, while Asus is balancing the head loads across two components, with two fans still there. I still don't like how the CPU's heat now runs over the GPU when the GPU is usually cooler. Maybe since there's two fans on the one pipe, it'll be easier to cool as a whole? Not sure..

I'll take your word for it though.. and did you see my pictures I posted on page 2? Where the two G751's have different backs? One's like a JW / JX.. while the other (red fins) is like the JH? I suppose the thick one is going to be like the JH? (The 980m) if so I'll be happy. I want big blocks.


I don't really understand what you mean by "Darnassus, they are two different sides, top in Tindrael's photo, and bottom view in the other. " when the top picture, the left sink is the GPU sink for the G751, while the bottom picture, is a picture of the G750's GPU sink. They're completely different, especially the 'black tags'.

They're both top side shots of the GPU sink. Just one's turned the other way around.

The bottom picture I am certain, is the G750 2nd gen model sink

[hmscott]

Darnassus wrote:
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I don't really understand what you mean by "Darnassus, they are two different sides, top in Tindrael's photo, and bottom view in the other. " when the top picture, the left sink is the GPU sink for the G751, while the bottom picture, is a picture of the G750's GPU sink. They're completely different, especially the 'black tags'.

They're both top side shots of the GPU sink. Just one's turned the other way around.

The bottom picture I am certain, is the G750 2nd gen model sink

Darnassus, I am comparing the single G751 photo in Tindrael's post - showing the top of the G751(JM?) cooling assembly with no copper pads showing, and the single photo in my post of the bottom of the G751JY cooling assembly showing the copper pads.

That is the comparison I am speaking to in my last post above, updated to include this specificity 🙂

[Darnassus]

hmscott wrote:
Darnassus, I am comparing the single G751 photo in Tindrael's post - showing the top of the G751(JM?) cooling assembly with no copper pads showing, and the single photo in my post of the bottom of the G751JY cooling assembly showing the copper pads.

That is the comparison I am speaking to in my last post above, updated to include this specificity 🙂

I see, well if the picture you posted is a JT or JY.. why are the sink blocks still so small? They're puny compared to the G750's.

[hmscott]

Darnassus wrote:
I see, well if the picture you posted is a JT or JY.. why are the sink blocks still so small? They're puny compared to the G750's

Darnassus, exactly, that is the point, it's awesome 🙂

IDK what new materials or material bonding techniques Asus has come up with, but they are very effective at cooling essentially the same CPU and a slightly cooler running GPU than what is in the G750 series.

If Asus can scale up that design into the G750 size, the G750 might be able to handle an SLI GPU configuration 🙂