ASUS G750JY... a slap in the face to G751 owners?

[Richdog]

I mean seriously, ASUS are bringing out a new version of an old and classic design with a 980M, that I am sure they are aware people prefer (otherwise logially why release an old design?) due to the sleek back design and white keyboard keys that are easier to see and read? Can they have any more contempt for their customers, ie: G51 owners? Absolutely bizarre. :confused:

Info here http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/G750JY/

So yeah, I am now really annoyed as I would have loved to buy a laptop with that design and the G751 specification...

[Darnassus]

Woooah, I just noticed the GPU isn't it's own card in a slot anymore and now integrated on the actual motherboard. Where did they cram all the other stuff?

[Darnassus]

.. still surprised how the dGPU is ACTUALLY on the motherboard now. Not only that.. but the CPU looks really weirdly shaped. And the CMOS has a cord.. ahahahaha!


P.S. The source of Tindraels photo must be a fake or 'conceptual'.. the wrong laptop, or the cooling is entirely different on each model's integrated card.. because looking at the motherboard, there's paste at the top of the VRAMs and other chips. There's no way that plate could cover all that.

http://rog.asus.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=43895&d=1417882350&thumb=1

The sink you pasted above, Scott seems like the real sink that belongs on the 980m model at least.


One more thing, what in hellfire is cooling the chips above the CPU? It looks as if the pipe rests on it in some retarded fashion.

[Darnassus]

I still don't understand what's cooling the chips north of the CPU.. other than the bar seeming to rest on it. What cools those..? Also the GPU has one less copper pipe. :'c (Looks thicker though..)


Come to think of the blocks in terms of size, I guess maybe they were too big and somewhat.. RETAINED the heat? And since they're smaller, with a tighter gap, air flow through them will be less dispersed basically emulating a 'higher fan speed' of blowing to cool the fins better?

I guess if it's actually working, then maybe bigger blocks like the G750 aren't as good after all.

I also wonder what that 'third' pipe is connected to.. (South of the CPU) is it running all the way to the block? Or is it just welded onto the other two on the other side?

[kittenontherun]

feels like i was back stabbed... i love the look and design of the g750 over my g751 why would they do this? also looks like asus does not test the laptops before shipping them off... maybe i made a bad choice getting the g751. My second choice was the MSi GT72...

[hmscott]

kittenontherun wrote:
feels like i was back stabbed... i love the look and design of the g750 over my g751 why would they do this? also looks like asus does not test the laptops before shipping them off... maybe i made a bad choice getting the g751. My second choice was the MSi GT72...

kittenontherun, function. That's what you are looking for. Not looks. It isn't a dress 🙂

The G751 looks awesome, there is nothing wrong with it's looks. Companies like Asus make lots of different laptop lines, MSI makes even more - like crazy amounts more - Asus didn't stab anyone in the back, they did what they always do, make a number of choices for buyers and continue to innovate and improve.

The Realtek hardware/software always causes problems in some form, even the G750 went through this early on.

The Realtek installers put some disabling files in C:\Windows that caused AudioWizard to not get installed - so the sound shaping software wasn't running, and the laptop speakers sounded thin. It took 3-4 months before a fix came around in the form of a new installer from Realtek that cleaned up the mess of the previous installers, and Realtek / speakers have run 100% good on the G750 since.

Fortunately we found the files before then, and found a manual fix. Modified the unpacked installer, removed the disabling files, and the install then worked - after hunting down the files already installed as well. Then there was the power saver software in Realtek causing crackling as it enabled/disabled - while on AC power - found those registry entries and how they worked, and disabled power saver on AC.

Asus tests the laptops, somehow they missed the glitch - it must be really loud in their assembly plants 🙂

You made a good choice, but you might have jumped in too early. Always wait a few months after release before getting a laptop from a new laptop line, it takes at least that long to get the glitches found and fixed, and then you can jump in without bother. Or, get it on the first day, live with the work arounds until the fixes arrive, and enjoy the other 99% of the laptop for an extra 3 months.

Asus makes lots of different models, and not all continue. The G750 series has been around for a long time. It is still popular, so it is likely it will continue in some form.

The G751 is a great machine, enjoy it 🙂

[Richdog]

hmscott wrote:
kittenontherun, function. That's what you are looking for. Not looks. It isn't a dress 🙂

The G751 looks awesome, there is nothing wrong with it's looks.

It is a perfectly valid point to care about the looks of a machine you look at every day and have spent 2k on, so saying it doesn't matter is just silly. TheG750 looks more sleek and more mature with its black design, whereas the G751 has that MSI-esque tacky element about it with the red accents and glowing LED on the top.

Also, shipping all of the G751's out with broken sound is not something you "miss", and nothing that you should be (and somewhat bizzarrely imo) be apologising on ASUS's behalf for.

The G751 IS a great performer, but we must also acknowledge its flaws.

[ARX7Arbalest]

I agree, the G751 is a great machine. I came from using an ASUS G73JH and was plagued with issues due to the ATI GPU on release. Thankfully ASUS did patch things up and thanks to a representative named Gary who kept bugging and pushing ASUS for a fix.

When I picked up my new G751JT I was delighted it had true ROG colors, black with red accents. The KB lights were not a problem to me. I like the red color. I felt refreshed it wasn't white. Before, people would put transparent colored paper into the KB to change the default white color of the lights. I would prefer ASUS would just make the KB lights customizeable as AW,MSI and the like so that people would be able to get what they want because nothing's really perfect; what matters is it perfect for you? Every model that Asus releases is what they envision is perfect for them.

I too had the MSI GT72 as a second choice but I couldn't find a config that was within my budget at the time. Scott is right that we chose because of function and not of looks. I was looking for a high specd reasonably priced notebook to use for Graphic Design, Motion Graphics, and VIdeo Editing that had great or reliable cooling system. I did find it funny that now that I was in the market for a new notebook that the G751 looked a little bit like the G73. Even my sister said that my new laptop looked the same.

My only complaint with ASUS is the upgradeability. This is an enthusiast grade notebook and I'd like to have the ability to change the parts to my liking or needs that will arise like changing the CPU/GPU myself or atleast using the M.2 slot along with both the mSATAs. I do believe that ASUS needs to truly provide an enthusiast gaming experience with their products.

I guess I'll be enjoying my G751JT for the next 5 years then I'll try my money with MSI.

[Joystick]

kittenontherun wrote:
feels like i was back stabbed... i love the look and design of the g750 over my g751 why would they do this?

I must admit that is a bizarre sales strategy, the majority doesn't like changes, so a new product has always to go through an "it's growing on me" phase. They damaged the acceptance phase.

kittenontherun wrote:
also looks like asus does not test the laptops before shipping them off... maybe i made a bad choice getting the g751. My second choice was the MSi GT72...

As everybody they have a checklist. In real world only accidents make a better checklist. Be happy this is your notebook and not your airplane. Was your second choice the GT72? 57.5dBA (G751JY) vs 67dBA (GT72) ?

ARX7Arbalest wrote:
[...] I would prefer ASUS would just make the KB lights customizeable as AW,MSI and the like so that people would be able to get what they want because nothing's really perfect;[...]

Really? Do we really need RGB pointless keyboards? Are there lot of games where you have to choose constantly between "Yes", "No" and "I don't know"? Because I don't see the point of having 3 blocks of color. Do you want an useful RGB keyboard? Every key a color, that is the only answer.

ARX7Arbalest wrote:
[...]My only complaint with ASUS is the upgradeability. This is an enthusiast grade notebook and I'd like to have the ability to change the parts to my liking or needs that will arise like changing the CPU/GPU myself [...]

I'm a supporter of upgradeability (MXM GPU, ...). I don't understand why ASUS, MSI and Alienware notebooks are going the RMA way just for a dead stick of ram. Aorus X7 has all the RAM on the same side.
However how many people do you think will spend 50% of the price of the new notebook to upgrade it? In 2016 there will be Skylake, Pascal, DDR4, 4K IPS 17" display, thinner gaming notebooks, ... How many people do you think will consider to upgrade the GPU of an old GT72, Alienware 17? Asus has better prices without upgradability, so you can quickly have the money to buy the next version.

ARX7Arbalest wrote:
[...]or atleast using the M.2 slot along with both the mSATAs. I do believe that ASUS needs to truly provide an enthusiast gaming experience with their products.[...]

G751JY/JT has not mSATA slots, it has 1x PCIe 4x, 1x SATA III and 1x SATA II. You can use the 3 slots, you just need a bit of enthusiasm: by using small mSATA adapters and some cable.

ARX7Arbalest wrote:
[...]I guess I'll be enjoying my G751JT for the next 5 years then I'll try my money with MSI.

Your crystal ball must be really expensive.

[Darnassus]

I rather like the exterior design. Especially the metal plate on the lid.. the G750's lid was way too soft.

I must admit though, while all the more red lives to ROG's colors, it is sort of looking quite MSI'ish.

I also think a red keyboard would look annoying in the dark.

[geneticweapon]

I like the red keyboard and rear vents vs what is on the 750 model, I just don't like the non-removable battery. I'm still glad that I bought this notebook.