ASUS G750JX CPU Temperatures

[ultimazlitezjc]

i sent the laptop on the service center and let them check my overheating problem, they told me that they encountered 0 problems on stability. what they checked was not the temperature but rather stability, and got pissed and went home.

i think overheating is more prone on our country because of the ambient temperature, so here is my problem now, i don't know if someone is experiencing this too, my temperature range changes.. as you can see on the pictures below


as you can see my normal CPU temperature range is 0-97C


here is the stress test from the 0-97C, only core 3 throttles due to too much heat (think its OK because of our temperature now at the country) it doesn't let my CPU exceed 97C


now in this picture my temperature range lowers to 0-85C which is i do not know if its normal, it changes


and the stress test from this range is that it prevents also the CPU to reach the 85C mark.


i don't why it is changing, i am seeking advice/opinion or fix if this is really a problem

[hmscott]

Hey ultimazlitezjc, welcome back 🙂

It has been a while since your last posting about Throttling on your Core 2 in the Overclocking thread:
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?34297-4700HQ-overclocking&p=395990&viewfull=1#post395990

I don't know what to say, except you still have the same problem, but if they are telling you you have to live with it, I guess that isn't solving the problem so much as telling you they won't fix it.

Can you return it, for your money back? If they won't cooperate, perhaps that is the only choice left.

You could continue to use it, and it might never give you a problem, but if it does eventually cause you stability problems, at least you have the visit to the repair facility on record, and all the data you collected.

Have you tried a stress / temperature run inside an air-conditioned office / building? Get one with the temps really low, and let your laptop sit for a while in it to cool off, then do the stress run and see what your high temps are, and if you throttle.

What is the difference in the runs with 84c max and 97c max? There must be something different to get such widely different temperature results for the same stress runs - they are the same, right?

[ultimazlitezjc]

hmscott wrote:
Hey ultimazlitezjc, welcome back 🙂
Have you tried a stress / temperature run inside an air-conditioned office / building? Get one with the temps really low, and let your laptop sit for a while in it to cool off, then do the stress run and see what your high temps are, and if you throttle.

What is the difference in the runs with 84c max and 97c max? There must be something different to get such widely different temperature results for the same stress runs - they are the same, right?

i have tried and it only gives me 88C max
and there is no real difference on performance but rather the temperature cap that limits the CPU

[hmscott]

ultimazlitezjc wrote:
i have tried and it only gives me 88C max
and there is no real difference on performance but rather the temperature cap that limits the CPU

ultimazlitezjc, are you saying that you now only see a max temp of 88c, and no longer see the 97c max temps?

Where were you when you saw the 97c max temps? In a closed hot room? What was the room (ambient) temp?

With the new low max temp indoors in an air-conditioned room, are you seeing thermal throttling kick in on CPU core #2? What is the ambient temp in the cool room?

[ultimazlitezjc]

scott sorry i forgot
i tested it on an airconditioned room and i got 88C - this is in the range of 0-97C.

i cant test the lower temperature cap 0-85 because it only shows it at random.

[hmscott]

ultimazlitezjc wrote:
scott sorry i forgot
i tested it on an airconditioned room and i got 88C - this is in the range of 0-97C.

i cant test the lower temperature cap 0-85 because it only shows it at random.

Somehow how aren't understanding each other 🙂

Either the temps are now low, or they aren't.

Are the temps still going high and core #2 is throttling?

Are you saying that randomly the same test, in the same ambient room temperature, is running much cooler? So the high temp runs only happen once in a while, and they happen in the same ambient room temperatures - so you aren't getting consistent temperature results for the same runs at the same ambient room temperature?

If you aren't getting consistent results, either something else is running in the background during the high temp runs, or mechanically / electrically the cooling system is randomly doing a bad job cooling the same heat output.

If you just leave the system run idle, and graph the CPU usage / temps, say with XTU, do you see something kicking on a regular basis running in the background, causing the base temperature to increase?

[ultimazlitezjc]

from my post what i was saying

temperature cap 0-97C
i got 88C on stress test on an air conditioned room

temperature cap 0-85C
i cant test this one right now because this temperature cap is showing in random scenarios only

[hmscott]

ultimazlitezjc wrote:
from my post what i was saying

temperature cap 0-97C
i got 88C on stress test on an air conditioned room

temperature cap 0-85C
i cant test this one right now because this temperature cap is showing in random scenarios only

"temperature cap 0-85C
i cant test this one right now because this temperature cap is showing in random scenarios only"

This is not clear. Are you saying you can't run the test? Or are you saying you can't run the test and get the same low temperature result? Do you now keep getting the high temperature result? And only occasionally get the low temperature result?

When doing tests you test for consistency. You want to get the same result each time you run a test. If you are getting different temperature results each time you run the test, then the results aren't consistent for a good reason, the question is, what is that reason.

The times you are getting the high result there must be something else running at the same time, raising the temperature over that you get when just the test is running. You need to get control of your system and know what is running.

Watch the processes running during the test run with the Task Manager. Use the Details tab, and sort by CPU usage - so that the top CPU processes are at the top of the list, and watch for things other than your stress test with high cpu usage.

If there is something else running while you are running the stress test, that would cause your temps during those runs to be higher than the temps you get when there are no other processes running during the test.

[ultimazlitezjc]

for clarification

temperature cap 0-85C ->
by looking at my post is what i found weird, look at my 1st post picture number 1 and 3, as you can see there that my temperature range differs, that is what i'm asking about now...

that is why i am saying that i cant run the test at temperature cap 0-85C because it happens at random time
my CPU has 2 sets of temperature range... the 0-97C and 0-85C

[hmscott]

ultimazlitezjc wrote:
for clarification

temperature cap 0-85C ->
by looking at my post is what i found weird, look at my 1st post picture number 1 and 3, as you can see there that my temperature range differs, that is what i'm asking about now...

that is why i am saying that i cant run the test at temperature cap 0-85C because it happens at random time
my CPU has 2 sets of temperature range... the 0-97C and 0-85C

Your CPU has 1 temperature range, not 2.

You need to re-read what I said a couple of times to get the clue you need to understand that your CPU doesn't have 2 temperature ranges.

Your CPU has one consistent response to the load presented to it, and it's temperature result is due to that load. If you increase the load, you increase the temperature, if you decrease the load you decrease the temperature.

The high temperature result during the stress test, there was something else running at the same time increasing the load on the CPU, raising the resulting temperature for that run.

The lower temperature result, there wasn't something else running at the same time, just the stress test was running, and so the load on the CPU was less, and the resulting temperature was less.

Does that help put it in perspective, why you are getting different temperature results "randomly"?

The Random Part is something else is also running at the same time as the Stress test. 🙂