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Rampage VI Extreme (LGA2066, Intel X299) - info, experience, BIOSes etc.

FlanK3r
Level 13
Intel public HEDT CPus with platfrom Intel X299 at Computex 2017. The CPU reviews are still under embargo for short time ,-). But some informations are officially out and OK with Intels NDA.

Intel X299 is really highend chipset for enthusiast CPUs. This year very powerfull, much more than anyone hoped. Because this year is AMD also very strong at CPU side (Announced not only 8 cores with SMT, but also up to 16C with SMT for AMD X399), Intel will launch step by step 6C/12T, 8C/16T, 10C/20T....Everything?:) Nooo, continue it with 12C/24T, 14C/28T, 16C/32T and new flagship 18C/36T !!!


New LGA2066 will be new one after 2011v3...Great value is, you can put in two generation CPUs. More info bellow.
1) Kabylake-X with new CPUs Core i5 X a Core i7 X. Those CPUs are KabyLake-X. Its basically Kabylake with more capacitors and bigger heatspreader. This could help with higher overclocking than classic Kabylakes. Kabylake-X have support only for dualchannel mode (up to 2666 MHz 1.2V). After XMP mode or manualy tweaking you can except everything between 3600 MHz to 4400 MHz at DRAM effective frequency.
2)Skylake-X, are HEDT processors Core i7 X and new Core i9 X. Starting as 6C/12T and up to crazy 18C/36T
There is support for Quadchannel memory. Based at first results on web, the memory clock we can expect overclocking of RAM around 3200 to 3800 MHz. All depends on type of memory chips, quality of IMC particular piece of CPU.

APEX series replaced Extreme series in extreme overclocking segment (yes, all fans of DICE, LN2 and LHe are focus directly at this board). This board broked many WRs after first day 🙂 There is example with informations about records from 31.5.2017.


APEX series replaced Extreme series in extreme overclocking segment (yes, all fans of DICE, LN2 and LHe are focus directly at this board). This board broked many WRs after first day 🙂 There is exmaple with informations about records from 31.5.2017. Rampage Extreme is for enthusiast, wattercooling setups, casemodders etc. Strix series is ideal part for daily overlcocking (of course, it can handle LN2 too !) and gamers, streamers...

Rampage VI Extreme - eATX size

-looks awesome, the rainbow AURA effects! But there is also small display for current information about CPU clock, temperatures or speed fans...

The motherboard support again up to 128 GB DDR4 DRAM in up to quadchannel (depends at your CPU - if KB-X or SK-X). In right upper corner are helpfull buttons START, RESET, PCIe and DIMM switchs. Also switch for slow mode, retry and safe button, RGB header and also great ROG DIMM.2 slot for NVMe M2 discs. So Extreme can be realized with Liquid Nitrogen also, if is it your hobby sometimes 😛 Look at crazy numbers of voltage meassuring points.

At the bellow are button to swicth the BIOS (two BIOSes here), many USB ports, MEM OK, again RGB header. Under frontplate near the PCH is place for next M.2



-part of IO. The IO shield is integrated and from left to right there are CLR CMOS button, BIOS Flashbakc button, Wi-Fi+BT device with support 802.11ad standard! Many USB3/3.1, LAN, audio outputs with backlight


-Rampage in the glory 🙂

And last video with short description from GamersNexus
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Brighttail wrote:
There shouldn't be a bottleneck, unless you have the DIMM slot to PCH lanes and are using other PCH lanes. If you have only a 28 lane CPU then one of the DIMM slots won't work I think. But if you have 44 lanes and it is set to CPU there shouldn't be an issue as the DIMM will run at x8 speed, x4 for both M.2s.

Now I cannot say what might be a slow down when it comes to the DIMM slot after the latest BIOS patch and other fixes for Spectre/Meltdown as I haven't used the DIMM slot since then. I can say there is definitely a slowdown on all m.2s after the patch that range from 10-50% with the benchmarks, the worst being at the higher Q depth (8+). If you have the same M.2 on each DIMM slot, have you tried benchmarks on each one, then switch them around to see if there is a difference?

The benchmarks are good
I will test the M2 with a PCIe card, I'll see if I have the same problem (and so it's the new patch) or if it works very well and so it's the DIMM.2 the problem
Sorry for my english 😄


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Dronson
Level 7
Hello everyone.

Please i need adviсe with m.2 slot near PCI-E. What a best solution for use this slot with 960Pro ? We need remove "light cover" from MB for better SSD cooling in this slot ?

Can i remove all plastic cover from front side board (chipset cover) but leave back side metal plate and use mb wihout this decorative lighting panel ?
I dont like modern trend with shining MB ))

Dronson wrote:
Hello everyone.

Please i need adviсe with m.2 slot near PCI-E. What a best solution for use this slot with 960Pro ? We need remove "light cover" from MB for better SSD cooling in this slot ?

Can i remove all plastic cover from front side board (chipset cover) but leave back side metal plate and use mb wihout this decorative lighting panel ?
I dont like modern trend with shining MB ))


Maybe you should return the board and go for one of the economy versions. Plenty of X299 boards without the lighting. If your SSD is overheating you should be looking at something other than hacking up the MOBO. Hae you tried using the DIMM.2 ? Is your case getting good ventilation?



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JustinThyme wrote:
Maybe you should return the board and go for one of the economy versions. Plenty of X299 boards without the lighting. If your SSD is overheating you should be looking at something other than hacking up the MOBO. Hae you tried using the DIMM.2 ? Is your case getting good ventilation?


Justin, thanks for your answer. But im dont want change my MB ) Overal quality and set of unique features, do not give me chance to change my MB choice.
But hide m.2 socket under decortive plastic cover on top MB - this is sad engineering mistake. For first this is motherboard, and only for 3-4-5 decorative lighting panel )

Im undertsand about DIMM_2, 1 one DIMM_2 slot is busy of other SSD and second slot i dont want use as is im planing use u.2 port. In any case, it's strange that using a m2 slot is associated with a problem caused by an incorrect MB design.

Dronson wrote:
Justin, thanks for your answer. But im dont want change my MB ) Overal quality and set of unique features, do not give me chance to change my MB choice.
But hide m.2 socket under decortive plastic cover on top MB - this is sad engineering mistake. For first this is motherboard, and only for 3-4-5 decorative lighting panel )

Im undertsand about DIMM_2, 1 one DIMM_2 slot is busy of other SSD and second slot i dont want use as is im planing use u.2 port. In any case, it's strange that using a m2 slot is associated with a problem caused by an incorrect MB design.



I think there is an opening just at the right of where the ROG logo is above the SATA ports where supposedly (my guess) air can pass through and cool the PCH and maybe the NVME. That is my guess though and can't properly check it right now. My big front intake fan (200mm) is blowing air there and my PCH temps are really good rarely exceeding 54c.

What I want to try is to construct a simple shourd in the form of a "funnel" that will channel air in there at greater quantities and see if my theory holds true. I don't have another NVME drive to put in there though at the moment but if you have the motherboard and it is not installed yet you could inspect and see if there is an opening from the PCH to the NVME slot for air to pass through.

If so and you can post a photo it would be nice. I will dig into this sometime within the next 2-3 months when I will drain my loop to replace soft tubing with hard.
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tistou77
Level 13
Hello

With DDR4, it is the memory controller (Cache) which supports up to 1.50v of VDIMM, or the memory itself (h24) ?

Thanks
Sorry for my english 😄


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tistou77 wrote:
Hello

With DDR4, it is the memory controller (Cache) which supports up to 1.50v of VDIMM, or the memory itself (h24) ?

Thanks



AFAIK it is the memory itself.

tipes wrote:
AFAIK it is the memory itself.

Aa Ok, you're sure ? 😄
I was convinced that it was the memory controller, since Intel recommends not to exceed 1.50v

Thanks
Sorry for my english 😄


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tistou77 wrote:
Aa Ok, you're sure ? 😄
I was convinced that it was the memory controller, since Intel recommends not to exceed 1.50v

Thanks


I should be more clear here - I am not 100% on this but I think it would apply to both the memory controller on chip, and voltage for the memory itself via bios.
I hope someone else will chime in here to confirm - sorry I cant be more helpful/sure.

Mark:o

Silent_Scone
Super Moderator
The voltage applies to the VDIMM, so the voltage of the DRAM. The max certification of 1.5v on XMP is both to preserve the life of the modules and the CPU, however current DRAM IC is quite hardy being that there's no reports of obvious degredation from exceeding these values. Needing higher than 1.5v shouldn't be nessessary with good modules.

Generally speaking, if you're needing to use more voltage than this, then the answer is to back off on timings and frequency (unless benchmarking).
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